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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:17 PM ET
If we decided to tank hard for 1 more year it would still be dumb to sign Beagle unless we knew he could be traded this year at the TDL.
- NorthNuck



I think we can get the Zamboni driver on a one year deal for league minimum
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:17 PM ET
I know most of the guys in here want nothing to do with Corsi, but Beagle had the worst Corsi in the entire NHL for players who played more than 50 games. Is it the be-all end-all of him as a player? No. But does it raise concerns/flags.. I would say so.
- Codes1087

TOI
12:27

CF%
39.2

oZS%
25.2


I'm guessing it's because he gets the puck out of the zone and is told to get off the ice. 1000 face-offs.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 29 @ 4:18 PM ET
Really? Do you think that extra year will affect EPs third year of ELC or Hughes third year?

If you want to really worry about a contract then start with Eriksson not a Gagner or a Beagle

- VANTEL


bringinup Eriksson and Gagner's contracts is why I worry. 3.5 here, 6 million there, an additional 2.5 million for Beagle. One or two of these contracts won't make or break a team, but in a cap driven NHL, you should be maximizing (or trying to) your cap space as best you can. Beagle's contract at 3 years x 2.5 AAV isn't the worst contract in the world, it just accumulates with the likes of other contracts on the team that aren't nice, which all together =
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 29 @ 4:20 PM ET
TOI
12:27

CF%
39.2

oZS%
25.2


I'm guessing it's because he gets the puck out of the zone and is told to get off the ice. 1000 face-offs.

- manvanfan


The Erik Gudbranson of Centers
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 29 @ 4:20 PM ET
bringinup Eriksson and Gagner's contracts is why I worry. 3.5 here, 6 million there, an additional 2.5 million for Beagle. One or two of these contracts won't make or break a team, but in a cap driven NHL, you should be maximizing (or trying to) your cap space as best you can. Beagle's contract at 3 years x 2.5 AAV isn't the worst contract in the world, it just accumulates with the likes of other contracts on the team that aren't nice, which all together =
- Codes1087

On a 3 year contract I can only see the negatives outweighing the positives, regardless of AAV
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 29 @ 4:20 PM ET
If we decided to tank hard for 1 more year it would still be dumb to sign Beagle unless we knew he could be traded this year at the TDL.
- NorthNuck


i would find it odd if he signs for 3 years or more.

guys like him fetch good prices at the deadline. you guys should sign 3 beagles.

it's perceived soft players like vanek and gagner that get pennies.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 29 @ 4:20 PM ET
The Erik Gudbranson of Centers
- Codes1087

NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 29 @ 4:21 PM ET
i would find it odd if he signs for 3 years or more.

guys like him fetch good prices at the deadline. you guys should sign 3 beagles.

it's perceived soft players like vanek and gagner that get pennies.

- Tumbleweed

I agree, that's why a 1 year contract would be nice
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:22 PM ET
bringinup Eriksson and Gagner's contracts is why I worry. 3.5 here, 6 million there, an additional 2.5 million for Beagle. One or two of these contracts won't make or break a team, but in a cap driven NHL, you should be maximizing (or trying to) your cap space as best you can. Beagle's contract at 3 years x 2.5 AAV isn't the worst contract in the world, it just accumulates with the likes of other contracts on the team that aren't nice, which all together =
- Codes1087


There is nothing wrong with Gagners contract .

Canuck signed three UFas last year. MDZ comes off the book this year and will probably be traded for a fourth rounder.

Gagner comes off the book next year . What you are missing is Sutter can now be traded at TDL for a first round pick to a playoff team and Gagner can hold the fort for one year with Vet leadership.

Like I said complaining about nothing
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 29 @ 4:23 PM ET
On a 3 year contract I can only see the negatives outweighing the positives, regardless of AAV
- NorthNuck


We might be the minority, but handing a 33 year old UFA 4th line center, money + term, just seems very counter-intuitive to rebuilding. Meh, whatever will be will be.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 29 @ 4:24 PM ET
There is nothing wrong with Gagners contract .

Canuck signed three UFas last year. MDZ comes off the book this year and will probably be traded for a fourth rounder.

Gagner comes off the book next year . What you are missing is Sutter can now be traded at TDL for a first round pick to a playoff team and Gagner can hold the fort for one year with Vet leadership.

Like I said complaining about nothing

- VANTEL





I personally don't think Sutter is worth a 1st, or even a 2nd, but I tend to undervalue Canucks players pretty bad. If we can deal Sutter for something, and then sign a less expensive version of him in Beagle, sure, why not.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:25 PM ET
The Erik Gudbranson of Centers
- Codes1087

CF%
43.1
oZS%
22.6


The older version of Brandon Sutter.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 29 @ 4:26 PM ET
CF%
43.1
oZS%
22.6


The older version of Brandon Sutter.

- manvanfan


why have 1 when you can have 2
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:27 PM ET
why have 1 when you can have 2
- Codes1087

Exactly. Maybe one can teach the other what the other doesn't know. Gaudette and Horvat can both start 75% in the ozone.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:29 PM ET
There is nothing wrong with Gagners contract .

Canuck signed three UFas last year. MDZ comes off the book this year and will probably be traded for a fourth rounder.

Gagner comes off the book next year . What you are missing is Sutter can now be traded at TDL for a first round pick to a playoff team and Gagner can hold the fort for one year with Vet leadership.

Like I said complaining about nothing

- VANTEL

Take your own advice.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:29 PM ET


Should have just signed him to a 1 year $7 million contract and gotten it out of the way.

Yes I am being serious.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:31 PM ET
Should have just signed him to a 1 year $7 million contract and gotten it out of the way.

Yes I am being serious.

- classic321

did you miss a number infront of the 7? Seems a little low otherwise.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:34 PM ET

Rick Dhaliwal

Even if the #Canucks land Beagle, I am told they are not done adding grit.


Reaves? Who else?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:34 PM ET
Take your own advice.
- manvanfan



When I complained it was about signing two 32 year olds (not one) to a four year contract for 7.1 mil with full NMCs. I guess you pencil was broken that day Minivan.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 29 @ 4:36 PM ET
Reaves? Who else?
- manvanfan


Elliot Friedman just confirmed its most likely reaves. He just finished visiting with Van
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:36 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal


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The #Canucks did call the agent for F Patrick Maroon and D Nick Holden. The calls were put in to see where the market was for those players, tire kicking stage.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:37 PM ET


So according to Elliot Friedman the other guy we are expected to sign along with Beagle is Reaves to round out our 4th line.

Don Cherry is going to love us.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 29 @ 4:37 PM ET
So according to Elliot Friedman the other guy we are expected to sign along with Beagle is Reaves to round out our 4th line.

Don Cherry is going to love us.

- classic321

NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 29 @ 4:38 PM ET
Elliot Friedman just confirmed its most likely reaves. He just finished visiting with Van
- Codes1087

Bodyguard for Hughes when he makes the team
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 29 @ 4:38 PM ET
Maroon was given an offer by Benning
- VANTEL


So just to patch it all together

Benning "we want to be faster and younger. We want to emphasize speed and skill"

Benning in free agency - targets Beagle, Reaves, Maroon..

Lol this team
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