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senstroll
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Long Time Oilers Fan, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 2:50 PM ET
Kind of makes you wonder if the NHL should not be adopting a cap system with tax differences built in. If Tampa can offer lower cap hit contracts that still pay more it doesn't seem like a level playing field.
- Aetherial


That would make sense for sure.

assuming players are factoring that in to the decisions. and i am sure it comes into play
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 27 @ 2:50 PM ET
Kind of makes you wonder if the NHL should not be adopting a cap system with tax differences built in. If Tampa can offer lower cap hit contracts that still pay more it doesn't seem like a level playing field.
- Aetherial


Agreed
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Woll vs Bob, the great goalie suck-off -Daeth
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:51 PM ET
It usually benefits non-traditional hockey markets so I doubt Bettman does anything about it because it creates "parity".
- Unholy_Goalie


There is definitely no need to boost the markets in places like Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver etc.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:51 PM ET
Who called UG coming back and starting taxbuzz? You win a prize

- Archaic


Should it be TavaresIsComingHomeAgainstAllOddsBuzz instead?
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 27 @ 2:52 PM ET
Perfect....welcome to MTL Jack Hughes
- Symba007


Nope- Colorado is offering any team that (frank)s Dorion this year with a trade that weakens the Sens... a draft pick and prospects and free beer for a year. Just like Pollock did to the Seals way back when.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:52 PM ET
There is definitely no need to boost the markets in places like Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver etc.
- Aetherial


Nope. That's guaranteed money. Every Canadian team could be a lottery team and they'd still turn a profit.

Except Ottawa.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 27 @ 2:52 PM ET
I dont get this?

Lebrun and Matheson have been writing about the NHL for a long time.

even if you take a quick look at Wards stats.. he hasnt had a season above NHL avg sv% since 2011 ...like holy F.

He seems like one of the worst options. have they even looked at where the Canes have ranked in goale sv% the past decade?

is it just Ward is a gud pro and therefor a good option in these guys minds?

- senstroll


I started ignoring lebrun after he wrote a fluff piece pumping chia's tires.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 27 @ 2:54 PM ET
Domi will score 5 empty net goals this year to reach double digits. And he will have a 12.3% winning percentage on face offs.
- winsix


That's insinuating that Montreal will win 5 games this season.
SwingersOfSultan
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2018

Jun 27 @ 2:55 PM ET
Brown-JT-MM
Hyman-Mathews-Johnson
Marleau-Kadri-Kappannen
tbd-tbd-tbd

MR-Faulk
JG-Hainsey
Dermott-tbd

Anderson
Tbd

Nylander for Faulk aft JT signing
Tbd areas are for guys to battle our or FAs

- Rayzorray







:lol

I'm out here proposing a trade centred around Nylander for Karlsson.
This guy wants Jake Gardiners right handed twin. Could you imagine a Gardiner-Faulk pairing?






The awkward moment a Senator fan overvalues a Leaf player, meanwhile, a Leafs fan completely destroys a Leafs players value.


Waddell would literally be carried around Raleigh like C3P0 in Star Wars Return of the Jedi.



Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 27 @ 2:55 PM ET
Should it be TavaresIsComingHomeAgainstAllOddsBuzz instead?
- Unholy_Goalie


It would be nice if it wasnt, #letmetalkoutofmyUGbuttbuzz or #imUGandimalwaysrightevenwhenimwrongbuzz

Maybe even #NashvillehasthebestchancetolandTavaresbuzz



Honestly, im just #kiddinaroundbuzz
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:56 PM ET
8 million dollars is a lot more.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/tavares-calculator

N.Y. Islanders Toronto San Jose Tampa Bay Dallas Boston

8 years 7 years 7 years 7 years 7 years 7 years
Contract Value $96,000,000 $84,000,000 $84,000,000 $84,000,000 $84,000,000 $84,000,000

Salary Cap Hit $12,000,000 $12,000,000 $12,000,000 $12,000,000 $12,000,000 $12,000,000

Total Taxes Paid $48,470,400 $44,654,400 $42,856,800 $30,794,400 $30,794,400 $35,078,400

Net Salary $47,529,600 $39,345,600 $41,143,200 $53,205,600 $53,205,600 $48,921,600

Tampa Bay could offer him 70 million (44 million net) and he'd still make more than if the Leafs offered him 84 million (39 million net). Even though Tampa Bay has to move salary, their cap hit would be lower than the Leafs. Would the Leafs go into McDavid territory (14 AAV, 98 million, 46 million net)? Is it worth it?

- Unholy_Goalie

Shut up, you a basing this on his total salary he won't be making that, also no matter where he plays he will still have Canadian taxes.
He won't pay the taxes on his agents salary plus he will have many more source deductions. Get of your stupid tax thing.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 27 @ 2:56 PM ET
Won't have space to sign him next year. The point is if they trade for Myers/Mason, it would be cheap because of the salary dump attached and then there is 9.6mil coming off the books next year to give to MaMar
- Schennski


They will have enough. Cap will go up another $5 mil, Gardiner will be gone, Hainsey will be gone, biggest issue will be preparing to make sure Seattle does not get a plum from our lineup.
senstroll
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Long Time Oilers Fan, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 2:57 PM ET
I started ignoring lebrun after he wrote a fluff piece pumping chia's tires.
- Tumbleweed


oh me as well. He gets RT into my timeline since he writes for the athletic.
I find there is no depth to his work. no critical thinking...mostly just fluff like you mention
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:58 PM ET
Shut up, you a basing this on his total salary he won't be making that, also no matter where he plays he will still have Canadian taxes.
He won't pay the taxes on his agents salary plus he will have many more source deductions. Get of your stupid tax thing.

- bobbyisno1


Wrong. He pays the majority of his taxes where he lives which would be the city he plays in. If he plays in Toronto, he's paying Canadian taxes. If he plays in Tampa Bay, he's paying American taxes. It depends on his residency.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: I’m Here For The Lottery
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 27 @ 2:59 PM ET
The use of the word tax should be a bannable offense from here on out. This is (frank)ing ridiculous.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 27 @ 2:59 PM ET
Kuntface is back.....
- .HOHO.


You talking about the Sens Troll?
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 27 @ 2:59 PM ET
people that take the TSN 'tax calculator' serious probably never heard of tax optimization...
there are 1000s of ways to lower the tax burden.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 27 @ 3:00 PM ET
i want john tavares
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 27 @ 3:00 PM ET
It's a long way from July 1st.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jun 27 @ 3:01 PM ET
people that take the TSN 'tax calculator' serious probably never heard of tax optimization...
there are 1000s of ways to lower the tax burden.

- MaximusAurelius


Which would still almost always be lower in the US, specifically the teams in states with no state income tax.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 27 @ 3:01 PM ET
52 years young!
- .HOHO.

When you fart, does it smell like dust?
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jun 27 @ 3:01 PM ET
i want john tavares
- systemtool


I do too. It would be the best thing since drafting Matthews. But the odds don't look good.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: I’m Here For The Lottery
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 27 @ 3:02 PM ET
Which would still almost always be lower in the US, specifically the teams in states with no state income tax.
- Unholy_Goalie

cool.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 27 @ 3:02 PM ET
The use of the word tax should be a bannable offense from here on out. This is (frank)ing ridiculous.
- RickJames77



Just permaban UG. Problem solved.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: I’m Here For The Lottery
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 27 @ 3:02 PM ET
When you fart, does it smell like dust?
- Atomic Wedgie

Yes, but that's because he uses a wooden dildo.
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