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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 27 @ 8:28 PM ET
welp...

i did something stupid/smart...

i looked up Tavares's career stats.

He's good, but not even close to what i expect Marner and Matthews career will be.

Pass. Give me Stastny for half the price.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

Oh.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 27 @ 8:29 PM ET
I know, I don't get all the unprovoked public attacks!



- .HOHO.



Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 27 @ 8:30 PM ET
PS Before someone mentions Stamkos, he was going back to a very good team situation with Tampa...if the Isles were a contender and their building situation wasn't so (frank)ed up I wouldn't bet on the Leafs...but I like the Leafs chances of contending a lot better than the Isles over the course of the contract...
- Zezel

Also.
The leafs were a last place team with an unknown future at the time.
They are not that anymore
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 27 @ 8:30 PM ET
Oh.
- Fakepartofme

LCB Oh.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 27 @ 8:32 PM ET
I think the saving grace here is the exchange rate. If he wants to live in Canada year round Leafs offering him 9 mil US (152 mil CND) should seal the deal.

He ain't getting 152 mil US a year from Tampa, Boston etc.

- walshyleafsfan


I wonder if at a certain point the extra cash one way or another doesn't matter as much as the situation. Is it worth 8 years guaranteed instead of 7 to play in two different arenas for three years for a bubble team? I don't know, depends on the kind of guy Tavares is...but I remember the great Red Wings teams, lots of guys were going there and it was obviously because they had a chance to win a Cup, many of them said as much...Marleau just decided he liked the Leafs chances...
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 27 @ 8:33 PM ET
I kind of can't bet against Shanny at this point. Too much stuff that never goes right for the Leafs has happened since we went through the vortex into bizarro world Leafdom. And this is the first time since forever that the Leafs are actually a really good situation and sanely run organization for a hometown star to jump into. I ask myself, does Tavares really want to spend the rest of his career in a very uncertain situation in NY?

I remember Lou saying, if I ever want to talk someone into something, I'm sending Brendan...so if I have to lay bragging rights on the line, I'm gonna go ahead and say the Leafs get Tavares. We'll see...

- Zezel

I agree.

I was also one of those ppl that believed we were gonna win the mcdavid sweepstakes. I was off by a year.

I thought we had a good chance at stamkos as well, but looking at the leafs now and where they were when meeting with stamkos, I think Tavares is an actual possibility.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 27 @ 8:34 PM ET
Also.
The leafs were a last place team with an unknown future at the time.
They are not that anymore

- Fakepartofme


Also this...getting Matthews, and Marner and Nylander showing they are legit players changes a lot. Even the Marlies changes things a bit. TML looks pretty serious from top to bottom right now.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 27 @ 8:41 PM ET
I think the saving grace here is the exchange rate. If he wants to live in Canada year round Leafs offering him 9 mil US (152 mil CND) should seal the deal.

He ain't getting 152 mil US a year from Tampa, Boston etc.

- walshyleafsfan

I honestly think once you get to that point money isn’t an issue anymore. The guy is going to get paid and will be set up for life. Where does he want to live, raise a family and be close to at the end of the day will play the biggest part.

Maybe he loves it in New York that he doesn’t want to leave or wants to come home. I think those probably weigh more then the money he’ll be getting.

Could be wrong though. Maybe 100 million US in the next 8-10 years is all he cares about.

Edit: I know all players get paid in usd but maybe he is all about the money.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 27 @ 8:44 PM ET
I wonder if at a certain point the extra cash one way or another doesn't matter as much as the situation. Is it worth 8 years guaranteed instead of 7 to play in two different arenas for three years for a bubble team? I don't know, depends on the kind of guy Tavares is...but I remember the great Red Wings teams, lots of guys were going there and it was obviously because they had a chance to win a Cup, many of them said as much...Marleau just decided he liked the Leafs chances...
- Zezel


Saw this on Twitter;
Q: Based on production after 185 NHL GP, which of these players would you dump to clear some cap space?

MacKinnon 51G 83A 134P
Draisaitl 48G 83A 131P
Kucherov 59G 69A 128P
Benn 53G 75A 128P
Kuznetsov 35G 91A 126P
Seguin 50G 61A 111P

Hint: All have fewer points than William Nylander
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 27 @ 8:50 PM ET
Tavares to dallas.
Something weird with them
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 27 @ 8:51 PM ET
Saw this on Twitter;
Q: Based on production after 185 NHL GP, which of these players would you dump to clear some cap space?

MacKinnon 51G 83A 134P
Draisaitl 48G 83A 131P
Kucherov 59G 69A 128P
Benn 53G 75A 128P
Kuznetsov 35G 91A 126P
Seguin 50G 61A 111P

Hint: All have fewer points than William Nylander

- PatC80


That's why we should trade him for that young #1 D that's available from that team. You know, that guy from that team?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 27 @ 8:52 PM ET
Tavares to dallas.
Something weird with them

- Fakepartofme

If that happens, Leafs should trade for Seguin.
Dallas can't afford everybody.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 27 @ 8:52 PM ET
Saw this on Twitter;
Q: Based on production after 185 NHL GP, which of these players would you dump to clear some cap space?

MacKinnon 51G 83A 134P
Draisaitl 48G 83A 131P
Kucherov 59G 69A 128P
Benn 53G 75A 128P
Kuznetsov 35G 91A 126P
Seguin 50G 61A 111P

Hint: All have fewer points than William Nylander

- PatC80

Kuznetsov
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 27 @ 8:53 PM ET
That's why we should trade him for that young #1 D that's available from that team. You know, that guy from that team?
- Zezel

Please no.. We should keep him...
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 27 @ 8:55 PM ET
If that happens, Leafs should trade for Seguin.
Dallas can't afford everybody.

- PatC80

We can now spend another year of blogs on how seguin will sign with the leafs next july.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 27 @ 8:56 PM ET
We can now spend another of blogs on how seguin will sign with the leafs next july.
- Fakepartofme



Oh god damn’t...I hope Tavares signs with the Leafs so we only have to deal with Doughty roomers next year.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 27 @ 8:58 PM ET
I think the saving grace here is the exchange rate. If he wants to live in Canada year round Leafs offering him 9 mil US (152 mil CND) should seal the deal.

He ain't getting 152 mil US a year from Tampa, Boston etc.

- walshyleafsfan

He aint getting 152 mil US from the leafs either.
But he could get 9 mil US per from any team pay less taxes and still live in Canada half the year and enjoy the exchange rate.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 27 @ 8:59 PM ET
Oh god damn’t...I hope Tavares signs with the Leafs so we only have to deal with Doughty roomers next year.
- Steven_Seagull

Its the perpetual cycle for the leafs and leaf fans.
JT can break that.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 27 @ 9:01 PM ET
Its the perpetual cycle for the leafs and leaf fans.
JT can break that.

- Fakepartofme



Remember that one time when the Leafs signed Clarkson?




Me neither.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:13 PM ET
We can now spend another year of blogs on how seguin will sign with the leafs next july.
- Fakepartofme

I think Seguin would re-sign with us.
If Dallas signs Tavares. We trade with Dallas for Seguin and Spezza.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:13 PM ET
Remember that one time when the Leafs signed Clarkson?




Me neither.

- Steven_Seagull

That was like a long, terrible dream.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 27 @ 9:22 PM ET
$25m cap space is misleading.

JT might be exploring options but IMO its NYI 1st then onto SJ next. They are built for now & an easier division to come out of. The Leafs need a minute munching shutdown D man more than JT. Who or when that is tough to say but its gotta be a priority. That all said things are looking bright while the process plays out. With the Habs/Sens being so inept & years away from being a threat along with FLA being closer its good times ahead for all of you fans GL
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:23 PM ET
$25m cap space is misleading.

JT might be exploring options but IMO its NYI 1st then onto SJ next. They are built for now & an easier division to come out of. The Leafs need a minute munching shutdown D man more than JT. Who or when that is tough to say but its gotta be a priority. That all said things are looking bright while the process plays out. With the Habs/Sens being so inept & years away from being a threat along with FLA being closer its good times ahead for all of you fans GL

- Nighthawk



Level: Expert.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 27 @ 9:24 PM ET
I think Seguin would re-sign with us.
If Dallas signs Tavares. We trade with Dallas for Seguin and Spezza.

- PatC80


Spezza is gone for cap space.
Seguin is not gonna leave.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 27 @ 9:26 PM ET
Level: Expert.
- Fruitcakenipple


Are you agreeing? I cannot tell lol
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