Should be a 3-5 year job for you pipefitters. Going to be a good gig for closing out a career.
- Reubenkincade

For sure but camp life is not great & its probably 20days on 8 off like Rio Tinto was.

Kitimat cannot attract trades ppl easily.
They want temporary journeypersons without any enticements is why. Millwrights are in high demand & none will apply.
- Nighthawk

Watch for the Albertans to come if the oil patch slows, i remember half the crews in the early 90s had transient tradesmen from other provinces popping in. Had great set up as well, they slammed a lot of pay into pensions and were retiring at 50 .

Kitimat cannot attract trades ppl easily.
They want temporary journeypersons without any enticements is why. Millwrights are in high demand & none will apply.
- Nighthawk

Most of the p-f jobs are only short term gigs at the moment, doing small tie-ins etc.
Other than the aluminum smelter here, I am not sure where millwrights would be needed, at the moment.

Sometimes they worked 3 to 4 months a year to top up. But these guys were away from home ALL the time prior to hitting 50.

Watch for the Albertans to come if the oil patch slows, i remember half the crews in the early 90s had transient tradesmen from other provinces popping in. Had great set up as well, they slammed a lot of pay into pensions and were retiring at 50 .
- Tigersmyle

Major projects face many issues. After done keeping enough trades ppl is another. Long jobs out of town are tough on family & there is not enough journeypersons not being from the baby boom era.

For sure but camp life is not great & its probably 20days on 8 off like Rio Tinto was.
- Nighthawk

At the start that job was a 20-8 rotation, but it went 147 halfway through.
My contacts here are already saying that it will be 14-7 for this job as well.

Sometimes they worked 3 to 4 months a year to top up. But these guys were away from home ALL the time prior to hitting 50.
- Tigersmyle

If i worked 4mths its about $80k gross. Nowadays $60k is more realistic for most ppl & less for others. Big projects changes that to $100-120k/yr take home.

Most of the p-f jobs are only short term gigs at the moment, doing small tie-ins etc.
Other than the aluminum smelter here, I am not sure where millwrights would be needed, at the moment.
- Reubenkincade

Probably pipefitters and boilermakers will be in soon. They like the travelling life. I remember one site when i was young i was sent as a first aider. They told the guys one the crews that they were limited to 2 lobster tails at dinner.
Hard life , great pay ....

14/7 i could live with or i go nutz with camp life being married & away too much. When young it was great loading up the bank.

If i worked 4mths its about $80k gross. Nowadays $60k is more realistic for most ppl & less for others. Big projects changes that to $100-120k/yr take home.
- Nighthawk

At 40 billion dollars, this might be considered a big project.

Probably pipefitters and boilermakers will be in soon. They like the travelling life. I remember one site when i was young i was sent as a first aider. They told the guys one the crews that they were limited to 2 lobster tails at dinner.
Hard life , great pay ....
- Tigersmyle

Those days of going on the tab were ruined by those same ppl lol

If i worked 4mths its about $80k gross. Nowadays $60k is more realistic for most ppl & less for others. Big projects changes that to $100-120k/yr take home.
- Nighthawk

Its why i went into local work. I hated the travel, getting the phone call the night before or a day before a flight and being told that your away for X amounts of weeks.

At 40 billion dollars, this might be considered a big project.
- Reubenkincade

Not arguing that. Its the length of the job & no life that ppl must work out. Buying a home or without kids is good reasons. If kids its hard to miss out & the money becomes less important if the sacrifice is too great. Most guys will go for a stretch then book off fir awhile & go to a few shutdiwns then return.

Probably pipefitters and boilermakers will be in soon. They like the travelling life. I remember one site when i was young i was sent as a first aider. They told the guys one the crews that they were limited to 2 lobster tails at dinner.
Hard life , great pay ....
- Tigersmyle

Earthworks crew and labourers will be the first in, some are already doing a bit of work, I would think carpenters/concrete guys after that. Ironworkers would be next, then fitters and boilermakers and scaffolders somewhere in between.

Its why i went into local work. I hated the travel, getting the phone call the night before or a day before a flight and being told that your away for X amounts of weeks.
- Tigersmyle

I hearya but my jobs are only 10-14 days now so its a breeze. That said there is not enough work these days.

Its steamfitters not pipefitters btw. Pipefitter is a generic term not a red seal.
Rio Tinto allowed many plumbrrs & sprinklerfitters to get the hours to challenge for a red seal steamfitter. Passing the test hardly qualifies them as good tradespeople. Some are ok but most are not even as adept as an apprentice.

I hearya but my jobs are only 10-14 days now so its a breeze. That said there is not enough work these days.
- Nighthawk

it always seems very cycle orientated. You have a bipolar political system that swings back and forth and the deep pockets either get nervous, or use it as an excuse. I think its going to be good for the kids as the north is going to boom now that the shipping can transit the pole in summer. Eventually going to have ocean to ocean to ocean infrastructure. Just too late for old timers who grew up watching the moon landing.

Its steamfitters not pipefitters btw. Pipefitter is a generic term not a red seal.
Rio Tinto allowed many plumbrrs & sprinklerfitters to get the hours to challenge for a red seal steamfitter. Passing the test hardly qualifies them as good tradespeople. Some are ok but most are not even as adept as an apprentice.
- Nighthawk

I have seen two red seal millwrights in action, similar age , one hasn't a clue, other is a swiss army knife in action. I guess it really depends on where and who you apprentice with. We have perhaps 4 old timers who are nearing retirement and nobody holds a candle to them.

Its steamfitters not pipefitters btw. Pipefitter is a generic term not a red seal.
Rio Tinto allowed many plumbrrs & sprinklerfitters to get the hours to challenge for a red seal steamfitter. Passing the test hardly qualifies them as good tradespeople. Some are ok but most are not even as adept as an apprentice.
- Nighthawk

I am aware of the generic term of pipefitter. The tradespeople i was refering to came from the pulp industry not Rio Tinto, 1 of them is a brother of yours in local 170 and has been a member for over 40 years.

There's nothing that supports Hutton taking on more minutes. Unfortunately, his defensive liability was overlooked. I haven't seen progress, he's done nothing to earn more minutes if anything he's earned the 7 spot IMO.
- neem55

My argument wasn't over who earned what minutes it was about who was the better Dman.

My argument wasn't over who earned shat minutes it was about who was the better Dman.
- NorthNuck

What do you think this is, a hockey blog?

Take a hike commie.

it always seems very cycle orientated. You have a bipolar political system that swings back and forth and the deep pockets either get nervous, or use it as an excuse. I think its going to be good for the kids as the north is going to boom now that the shipping can transit the pole in summer. Eventually going to have ocean to ocean to ocean infrastructure. Just too late for old timers who grew up watching the moon landing.

- Tigersmyle

Times & money use to be awesome. Now there are less sites to go to work. Shutdowns were where the money was. I used to work 7-12’s for months $60-80k & only needed 5-7mths to make more than money is worth now. Not even close to what the purchasing power was back then.

Eg my parents house near Grouse Mth cost $365k & worth $1.6m now.

My argument wasn't over who earned shat minutes it was about who was the better Dman.
- NorthNuck

If he's not good at defending, he isn't the better dman. It's not like he produced offensively last year. Hutton needs to prove himself or be the 7th guy.

If he's not good at defending, he isn't the better dman. It's not like he produced offensively last year. Hutton needs to prove himself or be the 7th guy.
- neem55

If Hutton takes the bait & comes to camp in top shape thats 1 big hurdle overcome. From there his confidence & TG’s will rise. He & his teammates need everyone to be on the same page & conditioning tops the list & let everything else spin off of that.

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