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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 25 @ 10:33 AM ET
Would like to see Ronald take guys with a high risk high reward with his later round picks.
- rinaldo


Hextall did close to that with the second pick in the first round so now you change your tune to later rounds. You must not want to admit Hextall is doing his job.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 25 @ 10:34 AM ET
What do you think of Carlo if that meant taking on Krejci and his contract?
- Glak18



Kind of why I like Trouba. I'd love the Flyers to get in on him.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
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Jun 25 @ 10:35 AM ET
I don’t know much about Fox, so hard for me to weigh the true value of the trade.

I’m a big fan of both the Carolina guys they traded. Hanafin will be a very good top pair guy, he’s still a baby in regards to D men.

- Marc D


So you just called Provorov a baby also?


j/k
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:36 AM ET
Bill, can you confirm if this is the first draft in Flyers history in which the team did not select a Canadian born player in any round? I believe it is.
- BOSS_TWEED


Yes, furthering tensions between the US and Canada
dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
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Jun 25 @ 10:36 AM ET
Yes, furthering tensions between the US and Canada
- Streit2ThePoint


MFGA
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 25 @ 10:37 AM ET
What do you think of Carlo if that meant taking on Krejci and his contract?
- Glak18


Very very interesting. For it to happen I guess they’d have to win over Tavares. I would definitely explore this.

Would a 3rd and St. Ivany do it?
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:39 AM ET
So you just called Provorov a baby also?


j/k

- dragonoffrost


Provorov is 49 years old.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 25 @ 10:40 AM ET
What do you think of Carlo if that meant taking on Krejci and his contract?
- Glak18


Replace Krejci with Backes...
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:41 AM ET
Hextall did close to that with the second pick in the first round so now you change your tune to later rounds. You must not want to admit Hextall is doing his job.
- dragonoffrost

How am I changing my tune? He drafted a guy many had going in the first round, get this in the first round. Yeah u got me there.

There is more to doing your job than drafting when your a GM is there not ?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:42 AM ET
Kind of why I like Trouba. I'd love the Flyers to get in on him.
- J35Bacher


But for the cost? Trust me it is going to cost a lot more than Flyers "junk" and prospects they don't care about.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:42 AM ET
Bill, can you confirm if this is the first draft in Flyers history in which the team did not select a Canadian born player in any round? I believe it is.
- BOSS_TWEED


Yes. Many an all-Canadian draft in the early years but this is rhe first zero Canadian one.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:42 AM ET
Replace Krejci with Backes...
- dragonoffrost


Yuck, I want more than Carlo for that.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:44 AM ET
When they traded for and signed MacDonald, he was supposed to be a puck mover who was solid defensively. Last year him and Hagg were the main 2nd pairing, with Manning/Sanheim-Gudas as the 3rd pairing. If the Flyers add a puck mover who is solid defensively, is it MacDonald or Hagg who gets bumped off the 2nd pairing?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:44 AM ET
Bill, great work as always and for that, thank you. I saw various reports that Hextall did not request Wayne Simmonds' no trade list. Is there now a greater likelihood that Simmonds will be extended this summer? If so, will that cut back on the pursuit of a legitimate 3C?
- Sinisalo4vr


Same likelihood. Their Plan A is to re-sign him even if it goes into next season, from what I have heard.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:47 AM ET
I really do think Tavares is going to Toronto, will be their captain

Their core will be Tavares, Matthews and Marner as forwards, Reilly and Dermott on defense, and they will trade William Nylander for another high-end defender

What sways him: Andersen is a damn good goaltender
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
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Jun 25 @ 10:48 AM ET
How am I changing my tune? He drafted a guy many had going in the first round, get this in the first round. Yeah u got me there.

There is more to doing your job than drafting when your a GM is there not ?

- rinaldo


Late first round max. Pick 19 isn't late first round it's mid.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:49 AM ET
When they traded for and signed MacDonald, he was supposed to be a puck mover who was solid defensively. Last year him and Hagg were the main 2nd pairing, with Manning/Sanheim-Gudas as the 3rd pairing. If the Flyers add a puck mover who is solid defensively, is it MacDonald or Hagg who gets bumped off the 2nd pairing?
- Feanor


Hopefully both, once Sanheim claims the 2nd pair role.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:50 AM ET
Farabee is gonna be a future first liner and if JOB pans out we can move frost to the wing and have an impressive 1-2-3 down the middle and wing depth we've been missing for a while

I think Ginning is going to be groomed to replace Hagg when we eventually lose him to expansion. I really like the Wyatte (sp?) Pick I think he's going to be a good player. Good value with the goalie pick if he was considered a 3rd round prospect
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:51 AM ET
Late first round max. Pick 19 isn't late first round it's mid.
- dragonoffrost

Good lord. Enjoy ur lunch
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:51 AM ET
So you just called Provorov a baby also?


j/k

- dragonoffrost


Remember, those crazy Russians are always lying about their ages. Provorov has maybe 2-3 years left before retirement.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:52 AM ET
Farabee is gonna be a future first liner and if JOB pans out we can move frost to the wing and have an impressive 1-2-3 down the middle and wing depth we've been missing for a while

I think Ginning is going to be groomed to replace Hagg when we eventually lose him to expansion. I really like the Wyatte (sp?) Pick I think he's going to be a good player. Good value with the goalie pick if he was considered a 3rd round prospect

- bulet13


I wouldn't write Hagg's name down on Seattle's team sheet just yet. The Flyers will have to leave some pretty good forwards unprotected if they only protect 4 of them as well as Provorov, Ghost, Sanheim and Myers.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:52 AM ET
Farabee is gonna be a future first liner and if JOB pans out we can move frost to the wing and have an impressive 1-2-3 down the middle and wing depth we've been missing for a while

I think Ginning is going to be groomed to replace Hagg when we eventually lose him to expansion. I really like the Wyatte (sp?) Pick I think he's going to be a good player. Good value with the goalie pick if he was considered a 3rd round prospect

- bulet13


Wyatee Wylie is the new Zarley Zalapski.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:53 AM ET
I wouldn't write Hagg's name down on Seattle's team sheet just yet. The Flyers will have to leave some pretty good forwards unprotected if they only protect 4 of them as well as Provorov, Ghost, Sanheim and Myers.
- Feanor


And Sam Morin
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:53 AM ET
I wouldn't write Hagg's name down on Seattle's team sheet just yet. The Flyers will have to leave some pretty good forwards unprotected if they only protect 4 of them as well as Provorov, Ghost, Sanheim and Myers.
- Feanor


Many things will change by the time Seattle rolls around.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 25 @ 10:53 AM ET
I really do think Tavares is going to Toronto, will be their captain

Their core will be Tavares, Matthews and Marner as forwards, Reilly and Dermott on defense, and they will trade William Nylander for another high-end defender

What sways him: Andersen is a damn good goaltender

- AllInForFlyers



Yeah that would make Matthews feel great.

I know it might sound dumb but I don't think that happens. This is Matthews team and bring in Tavares I think would be telling him it's not and might cause a little problem. There are already reports that Matthews and Babcock aren't on best terms. Do the Leafs want to create this type of atmosphere so maybe Matthews decides he eventually wants to hit FA and not sign long term.
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