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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 25 @ 6:22 PM ET
Every team has their turds...until they win a championship. Pittsburgh won the cup back to back years, this year they have turds that need to be flushed.

Best Eagles coach ever? Yup, bet your answer was different a year ago.

- Glak18


I saw a grand total of 2.5 Eagles games last year. I do like the coach though, aggressive.

We all know I cry over Laviolette most nights.

I'm cool with Mac on a stanley cup team, think he could contribute. Flyers need another true warhorse back on D. I dont think the "star power" is going to be there up front to carry this club to a cup. T Myers and Carter Hart are the big X factors for me going forward.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 25 @ 6:26 PM ET
I saw a grand total of 2.5 Eagles games last year. I do like the coach though, aggressive.

We all know I cry over Laviolette most nights.

I'm cool with Mac on a stanley cup team, think he could contribute. Flyers need another true warhorse back on D. I dont think the "star power" is going to be there up front to carry this club to a cup. T Myers and Carter Hart are the big X factors for me going forward.

- flyer_nutter


I'm there with you, I am super happy for Philadelphia, but zero interest in football of today.

I know Hart is the kid being sold, but please don't overlook Felix "I am not a cat, I'm a ninja" Sandstrom.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 6:26 PM ET
Why not compare him of today...he just won the cup, making 5.5M, LHD Defenseman. The sad part is AMAC is better.
- Glak18

Well u brought up the 2 cups. Totally different player on those teams don’t u think?

Andy Mac is a bottom pairing guy just like
Him. Is overpaid just like him. Maybe he is better magnet he isn’t. Bottom line is Andy Mac was a bad bad signing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 6:29 PM ET
I saw a grand total of 2.5 Eagles games last year. I do like the coach though, aggressive.

We all know I cry over Laviolette most nights.

I'm cool with Mac on a stanley cup team, think he could contribute. Flyers need another true warhorse back on D. I dont think the "star power" is going to be there up front to carry this club to a cup. T Myers and Carter Hart are the big X factors for me going forward.

- flyer_nutter


What's the definition of star power? They already have Giroux and Voracek. Patrick has a chance to be a #1 center in the league. Konecny could be a 70 point player.
What will Frost,Farabee, and other highly regarded prospects become? There is loads of potential for "star power" on this team.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 25 @ 6:31 PM ET
Well u brought up the 2 cups. Totally different player on those teams don’t u think?

Andy Mac is a bottom pairing guy just like
Him. Is overpaid just like him. Maybe he is better magnet he isn’t. Bottom line is Andy Mac was a bad bad signing.

- rinaldo


I agree, different player, but both were stinky...please don't make the mistake thinking Orpik was good then. Not a Penguin fan alive who didn't want him gone.

I said multiple only because he has, but I could of easily of just said stanley cup champion. I see a bang on comparison, overused left handed defenseman making 5M+ a year, but when used correctly can be useful at times. Am I missing something?
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 6:33 PM ET
I agree, different player, but both were stinky...please don't make the mistake thinking Orpik was good then. Not a Penguin fan alive who didn't want him gone.

I said multiple only because he has, but I could of easily of just said stanley cup champion. I see a bang on comparison, overused left handed defenseman making 5M+ a year, but when used correctly can be useful at times. Am I missing something?

- Glak18

The conversation wasn’t about Orpik. He served his role fine.

He was a better player years ago on the pens. Do u disagree with that?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 25 @ 6:33 PM ET
WARNING:

Eklund is posting dumb crap about JVR coming back to Philly, please don't get suckered into this. Nothing to see here.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 25 @ 6:34 PM ET
I'm there with you, I am super happy for Philadelphia, but zero interest in football of today.

I know Hart is the kid being sold, but please don't overlook Felix "I am not a cat, I'm a ninja" Sandstrom.

- Glak18


My one fear with Hart is he looks a little small whenever I saw him which isn't often. A bit like Niity.

Dont care who it is, just get one - and soon. They aren't moving up into that next tier without a true upgrade in net.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 25 @ 6:35 PM ET
What's the definition of star power? They already have Giroux and Voracek. Patrick has a chance to be a #1 center in the league. Konecny could be a 70 point player.
What will Frost,Farabee, and other highly regarded prospects become? There is loads of potential for "star power" on this team.

- MJL


Dont feel like going into Mirkwood but thanks.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 25 @ 6:36 PM ET
The conversation wasn’t about Orpik. He served his role fine.

He was a better player years ago on the pens. Do u disagree with that?

- rinaldo


"Andy Mac is a bottom pairing dman. Is he a top 6 on a cup caliber Team?"

This was my point, Orpik did it, so could AMac. So my answer yes.

Would I want someone better, of course. Every team wants the best they can get. If it was easy every team would do that then including the Stanley Cup champs Washington Capitals.

Did you hear they may bring Orpik back for cheaper salary.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 6:38 PM ET
My one fear with Hart is he looks a little small whenever I saw him which isn't often. A bit like Niity.

Dont care who it is, just get one - and soon. They aren't moving up into that next tier without a true upgrade in net.

- flyer_nutter


Hart is 6' 2" and is one of the top rated goalie prospects in the World.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 6:38 PM ET
Dont feel like going into Mirkwood but thanks.
- flyer_nutter


It was rhetorical. I have no need for you to answer it. I answered it for you.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 25 @ 6:39 PM ET
My one fear with Hart is he looks a little small whenever I saw him which isn't often. A bit like Niity.

Dont care who it is, just get one - and soon. They aren't moving up into that next tier without a true upgrade in net.

- flyer_nutter


I don't care if he looks like Mike Vernon, as long as he can stop the puck. Pretty sure he is avg size at around 6'2 and already good weight. Nitty relied on his reflexes a lot, where as Hart has some really sound positioning which is why he is ranked so high as a prospect.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 6:42 PM ET
Wonder if Ronald has any interest in artem anisimov? Be a decent 3rd line center
- rinaldo

Remember that time he used his stick as a rifle?
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 6:43 PM ET
"Andy Mac is a bottom pairing dman. Is he a top 6 on a cup caliber Team?"

This was my point, Orpik did it, so could AMac. So my answer yes.

Would I want someone better, of course. Every team wants the best they can get. If it was easy every team would do that then including the Stanley Cup champs Washington Capitals.

Did you hear they may bring Orpik back for cheaper salary.

- Glak18

ALSo heard the flyers might bring back jvr.

Orpik for 1mm or less is fine. No harm really.
Just like andy Mac at 2mm is ok

To me imo ur bottom pair should be making 3mm give or take a little combined. Ideally imo u have a nice vet and a dman on his entry level deal
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 6:43 PM ET
Remember that time he used his stick as a rifle?
- hereticpride

No
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 25 @ 6:44 PM ET
No
- rinaldo


Against Tampa....
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 6:47 PM ET
Against Tampa....
- Glak18

Be a good pickup imo. Only has 3 years left.
Should be able to get him at a reasonable cost I Woudl think
WhirlingDervish
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "Make The Flyers Great Again", PA
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 6:48 PM ET


flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 25 @ 6:50 PM ET
It was rhetorical. I have no need for you to answer it. I answered it for you.
- MJL


Talking to yourself is the first sign of insanity.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 25 @ 6:51 PM ET
I don't care if he looks like Mike Vernon, as long as he can stop the puck. Pretty sure he is avg size at around 6'2 and already good weight. Nitty relied on his reflexes a lot, where as Hart has some really sound positioning which is why he is ranked so high as a prospect.
- Glak18


I think he will be the real deal. Cant remember even close to this much hype about a guy for a while. Bernier?
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jun 25 @ 6:51 PM ET
WARNING:

Eklund is posting dumb crap about JVR coming back to Philly, please don't get suckered into this. Nothing to see here.

- Glak18



Jvr is coming back!?!? Hey everybody he just said jvr is coming back!!!!! Cup here we come.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 25 @ 7:03 PM ET
Call me crazy, but depending on the contract, I'd have no problem with JVR coming back. All depends on the terms. But since Ek says they are interested, he won't be signing here.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:07 PM ET
Remember that time he used his stick as a rifle?
- hereticpride

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:07 PM ET
Call me crazy, but depending on the contract, I'd have no problem with JVR coming back. All depends on the terms. But since Ek says they are interested, he won't be signing here.
- five4fighting10

I really don't like JVR but he's easily an upgrade from Weal & Raffl. I suppose it depends on what sort of timeline they have for Farabee. I don't want JVR signed for 4 or 5 years if they think Farabee will be here in a year.
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