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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: On Rasmus Dahlin and the first round of the 2018 NHL Draft.
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:03 PM ET
O'Reilly gets moved in July

Pacorietty ends up a Sabre but not in the deal for ROR

ROR goes to the blues

My guess

- Stripes77


Seems like he's a lot more tradable by July 1.
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Jun 23 @ 3:03 PM ET
Or, he should have said, "Hey, Toronto, give us your 5th next year for our 1st pick in the 6th this year?" That would have been a fair trade off.
- sskkoo1


Exactly. Again no reason to tweak, but it got my attention.

I’m sure he’s worried about that.
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 23 @ 3:03 PM ET
John Vogl
‏ @BuffaloVogl

The Sabres will not talk with John Tavares, Jason Botterill says.

- Stripes77


That's a real good idea if you hate winning hockey games.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:03 PM ET
O'Reilly gets moved in July

Pacorietty ends up a Sabre but not in the deal for ROR

ROR goes to the blues

My guess

- Stripes77


It stems from Botterills quote “we weren’t focused on trades. We were celebrating drafting Dahlin.”
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 23 @ 3:03 PM ET
Or, he should have said, "Hey, Toronto, give us your 5th next year for our 1st pick in the 6th this year?" That would have been a fair trade off.
- sskkoo1


Is there really such a thing as an "early 6th"? I feel like once you get to the 6th, it's pretty even.

It just seems like an odd thing to get upset about
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:03 PM ET
If the NFL had 14 rounds, and they did this in the 12th, it would be a curiosity, which is what this is. It's an odd move, but not a reason to get your blood pressure up. Maybe he wants to trade 2 6ths for a 5th next year?
- jcragcrumple

my blood pressure is just fine


there is a thing called a draft chart


the first overall pick in the 6th round this year is worth more for a trade then the first overall pick in the 6th rd next year


the leafs pick will probably be 20 picks later in the draft next year than this pick was



we are not in position to throw a pick away now for 70 cents on the dollar 12 months from now



unless there was a cup parade downtown that I was unaware of last week
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 23 @ 3:03 PM ET
it's the first pick this year for a middle to late 6th next year


pathetic

- homiedclown


What if they've identified a couple possible late round picks next year? What if no other team would trade a 5th?

Ultimately, it won't matter in either draft most likely. Its odd but I don't hate the picks he made, especially Pekar. I wouldn't let it ruin your day is all I am saying, its inconsequential and there may be verbal "future considerations" attached (even though thats usually bs).
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:04 PM ET
That's a real good idea if you hate winning hockey games.
- mattsox


What if his agent told Botts that Tavs wasn't interested?
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
That's a real good idea if you hate winning hockey games.
- mattsox

Or maybe.. just maybe. They reached out to his agent and they laughed at him and said no thank you.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 23 @ 3:05 PM ET

Pierre LeBrun
‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun

Agent Pat Brisson indicates he's parted ways with Max Pacioretty. No longer his agent. No hard feelings but a mutual decision both felt made sense at this time.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
Gerbe's about to tell you to relax
- TheSabresTaco

f@ck gerbe
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
What if his agent told Botts that Tavs wasn't interested?
- TheSabresTaco

That’s unpossible
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
my blood pressure is just fine


there is a thing called a draft chart


the first overall pick in the 6th round this year is worth more for a trade then the first overall pick in the 6th rd next year


the leafs pick will probably be 20 picks later in the draft next year than this pick was



we are not in position to throw a pick away now for 70 cents on the dollar 12 months from now



unless there was a cup parade downtown that I was unaware of last week

- homiedclown


This isn't a fair ratio
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
no, it was stupid


if the leafs wanted the pick, they should have given us the 5th next year, or the 6th and 7th

all Botts got as a sabre is 31st place


it's stupid

- homiedclown


Homie - love u man- but reality check:

1. It was a 6th round pick. Trade doesn't make much sense, but it was a 6th round pick. And more importantly,

2. Rasmus Freakin Dahlin!!!
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 23 @ 3:06 PM ET
That's a real good idea if you hate winning hockey games.
- mattsox



Or if you want to be able to afford your start center and star defensemen you just drafted 3 years from now

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:06 PM ET
my blood pressure is just fine


there is a thing called a draft chart


the first overall pick in the 6th round this year is worth more for a trade then the first overall pick in the 6th rd next year


the leafs pick will probably be 20 picks later in the draft next year than this pick was



we are not in position to throw a pick away now for 70 cents on the dollar 12 months from now



unless there was a cup parade downtown that I was unaware of last week

- homiedclown


That pick has a 5% chance of barely making the 4th line.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:06 PM ET
Is there really such a thing as an "early 6th"? I feel like once you get to the 6th, it's pretty even.

It just seems like an odd thing to get upset about

- jcragcrumple

so when the 6th rd pick starts, you would rather 19 teams pick before you then get first crack at who is left?


jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 23 @ 3:07 PM ET
my blood pressure is just fine


there is a thing called a draft chart


the first overall pick in the 6th round this year is worth more for a trade then the first overall pick in the 6th rd next year


the leafs pick will probably be 20 picks later in the draft next year than this pick was



we are not in position to throw a pick away now for 70 cents on the dollar 12 months from now



unless there was a cup parade downtown that I was unaware of last week

- homiedclown


Alright. I just don't really care either way. We'll have 2 picks in the 6th next year. We can package those two for an early 5th which is basically, technically a fourth
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Jun 23 @ 3:07 PM ET
What if they've identified a couple possible late round picks next year? What if no other team would trade a 5th?

Ultimately, it won't matter in either draft most likely. Its odd but I don't hate the picks he made, especially Pekar. I wouldn't let it ruin your day is all I am saying, its inconsequential and there may be verbal "future considerations" attached (even though thats usually bs).

- RhinoFan


That last part is what I’m thinking. If not, it’s a head scratcher.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:07 PM ET
That’s unpossible
- jochfr


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:08 PM ET
That pick has a 5% chance of barely making the 4th line.
- TheSabresTaco

Datsyuk and Zetterberg disagree


but you are right


we are stacked and don't need an extra prospect in the pipeline
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
hot take. Botts hates Canadians
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
so when the 6th rd pick starts, you would rather 19 teams pick before you then get first crack at who is left?
- homiedclown


I don't care about 19 spots in the 6th round at all. It's a roll of the dice at the 1st pick or the 19th
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
Datsyuk and Zetterberg disagree


but you are right


we are stacked and don't need an extra prospect in the pipeline

- homiedclown


Everyone except Datsyuk and Zetterberg agree.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:10 PM ET
Alright. I just don't really care either way. We'll have 2 picks in the 6th next year. We can package those two for an early 5th which is basically, technically a fourth
- jcragcrumple

we should have gotten a 5th from the leafs today


and if mathews breaks his leg, it could have been an early 5th and we have our 6th



unless it's make canada great day and give them a gift
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