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Blake Price
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Canucks rumblings on the trade market. Upwards of 3 names now: Hanifin (although not much lately), maybe involved in the Hamilton rumours in some way, and Damon Severson. Hard to know if this at the expense of the number 7th or not, but likely |
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mauryballstein
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I'd say Ladd probably has slightly negative value after those last two seasons and being signed until age 37 @5.5M.
I'd also say Tanev has slightly less value than #12 considering only 2 seasons left.
So if those two considerations approximately balance one another you are looking at just #7 for #11.
Really depends if you value Ladd or see him as a liability. This would depend on the perceived cap structure and development phase of the team throughout his contract.
I think you treat him as a liability regardless because that's the Isles motivation for moving him. - RonPielep
It is one of the worst deals in the NHL it has a massive negative value. |
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CanuckDon
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No, not even Donnie can bring himself to do it with much passion these days. - belcherbd
I don’t recall Benning saying he was top pairing? Top 4 yes |
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mauryballstein
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Blake Price
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Canucks rumblings on the trade market. Upwards of 3 names now: Hanifin (although not much lately), maybe involved in the Hamilton rumours in some way, and Damon Severson. Hard to know if this at the expense of the number 7th or not, but likely - VANTEL
Benning has no clue if he thinks adding one defenseman is enough. |
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NewYorkNuck
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Blake Price
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Canucks rumblings on the trade market. Upwards of 3 names now: Hanifin (although not much lately), maybe involved in the Hamilton rumours in some way, and Damon Severson. Hard to know if this at the expense of the number 7th or not, but likely - VANTEL
At this point, just keep the pick please |
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pker2theend
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Benning has no clue if he thinks adding one defenseman is enough. - mauryballstein
Not even normie Canuck fans expect us to compete this year. |
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Whiskey-Tango
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Hamilton much be a real d-bag for 2 teams to 'want' to move him with his age, skill and size.
Odd....
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RonPielep
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Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer Joined: 08.21.2014
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It is one of the worst deals in the NHL it has a massive negative value.  - mauryballstein
Even the worst contracts in the league can be dumped for approximately a 2nd when there are teams like Arizona looking to spend their cap space on futures.
I'd put Ladd's at a similar negative value to LE which would be less negative than contracts like Bobby Ryan and Lucic. |
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belcherbd
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I don’t recall Benning saying he was top pairing? Top 4 yes - CanuckDon
You're probably right but I was trying to bait a more angry response |
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Whiskey-Tango
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Even the worst contracts in the league can be dumped for approximately a 2nd when there are teams like Arizona looking to spend their cap space on futures. - RonPielep
Sure, buts thats only when they don't actually have to ice the bum. |
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Hamilton much be a real d-bag for 2 teams to 'want' to move him with his age, skill and size.
Odd.... - Whiskey-Tango
To his defense they want Hamonic out too. They should just put a turnstile on that locker room door
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Pres.cup
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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Just getting our numbers up. One page worth of responses  - WhiteLie
Detroit just gave the jb answer on team building.
Want to get younger, bring in some veterans to shelter them and fill in the age gap. |
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CanuckDon
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Benning has no clue if he thinks adding one defenseman is enough. - mauryballstein
Where in that tweet did he say we only need one dman? |
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Detroit just gave the jb answer on team building.
Want to get younger, bring in some derms to shelter them and fill in the age gap. - Pres.cup
Old school thinking isn’t going to win any hockey games. |
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CanuckDon
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You're probably right but I was trying to bait a more angry response  - belcherbd
Lol - all my efforts are focused on crushing Prezs spirit and dreams today |
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mauryballstein
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Even the worst contracts in the league can be dumped for approximately a 2nd when there are teams like Arizona looking to spend their cap space on futures.
I'd put Ladd's at a similar negative value to LE which would be less negative than contracts like Bobby Ryan and Lucic. - RonPielep
No one is giving up a 2nd for any of those deals |
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Sure, buts thats only when they don't actually have to ice the bum. - Whiskey-Tango
I bet he is still a serviceable player that could contribute to most teams. Just not at that value. |
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mauryballstein
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Where in that tweet did he say we only need one dman? - CanuckDon
By trading for a guy you are trying to speed up the rebuild. That is deal you make when you are ready to make the next step and not when you have 4 holes on defense to fill and several forward spots. |
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Retinalz
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I wonder what Lindholm would cost. |
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No one is giving up a 2nd for any of those deals  - mauryballstein
You misunderstood or I misspoke (although it should have been clear from context).
You don't get a second in return for those contracts. You pay a 2nd so another team will take them on. Hence the negative value.
In other words Lucic + #40 to a team with lots of cap space for 'future considerations' |
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mauryballstein
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Hamilton much be a real d-bag for 2 teams to 'want' to move him with his age, skill and size.
Odd.... - Whiskey-Tango
Deal him for Karlsson |
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I wonder what Lindholm would cost. - Retinalz
Whatever the price is I'm sure we can't afford it |
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CanuckDon
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