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Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 21 @ 4:08 PM ET
and this is a bad thing? Bowl-u is not very good...
- hehateme


I really don't mind the idea of some of these guys coming to camp to win a job. With his play last year and cap hit, I don't think you can trade him for much. Let him fight it out.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 21 @ 4:08 PM ET
Patches looking for a 6 to 8 year deal. Figures not mentioned.

Only length.


No girth.

- BareMetal


Pass
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 21 @ 4:09 PM ET
Sure, but shot attempts are infinitely more important than a face off.
- sbroads24


and then??????????
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 21 @ 4:09 PM ET
The biggest faceoff of the entire NHL season was won by Lars Eller, a 49% guy and a third line center.

It's not like RoR wins 80% cleanly or something.

- Lunaion


no, not 80%...that would be phenomenal.
just a mere 60%, while the rest of the team went at a 45% rate collectively.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 21 @ 4:12 PM ET
yes, I was frustrated with the Mitts pick last year ... from a position perspective since they were obviously so devoid of D talent...a gapping hole.
Similar to the LW gappign hole this year.

- IonSabres


The one thing I would have gotten right is I didn't like the Nylander pick. I wanted the Russian Dman. That was a stupid pick.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:12 PM ET
can we send baeiou down just to rid ourselves of him?
- IndianaSabresFan


HEY!!! That's Baloo The Bear!!!

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:14 PM ET
Sure, but shot attempts are infinitely more important than a face off.
- sbroads24


If u substitute “scoring chance” then I’m with ya
About 80% (guessing, maybe more) of shots don’t have much chance of being a goal unless the goalie screws up or they’re deflected
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:14 PM ET
Hahahaha

How’s family life sir?
Nice to cya back around

- jdfitz77


It's crazy as can be.

Happy to have written my final daycare payment of my life. That'll be an extra $1300 laying around every month.

I come around for certain events. Probably disappear after the draft for a bit again.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:17 PM ET
If u substitute “scoring chance” then I’m with ya
About 80% (guessing, maybe more) of shots don’t have much chance of being a goal unless the goalie screws up or they’re deflected

- jdfitz77

But it’s been proven that shot attempts = more wins. Again, not the only factor, but one of the most important

It has not been proven that faceoff wins = wins

That’s the difference
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 21 @ 4:19 PM ET
ROR is still as Sabre... BOOM
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 21 @ 4:19 PM ET
and then??????????
- hehateme


In our case, among the worst in the league in shots and dead last in shooting %. If you want to see a strong correlation to winning, not much better than shots and shooting %.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:20 PM ET
HEY!!! That's Baloo The Bear!!!


- JVince11



Why is there a bear in the jungle?
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 21 @ 4:22 PM ET
ROR is still as Sabre... BOOM
- 22sabresQ


$6.85m reasons why
Shadman306
Joined: 06.11.2015

Jun 21 @ 4:28 PM ET
$6.85m reasons why
- turbo044


7.5 against the cap
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 21 @ 4:28 PM ET
no, not 80%...that would be phenomenal.
just a mere 60%, while the rest of the team went at a 45% rate collectively.

- IonSabres


That's the point, it's still pretty close to a coin flip. Sometimes the coin falls in the mud, but you have to pick a winner anyways.

When it was all on the line this year, it was a 49% guy vs a 48% guy.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:29 PM ET
Why is there a bear in the jungle?
- sskkoo1


Why was there a polar bear on the Lost island?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:30 PM ET
Exactly, hence why I bring it up.
he seems to be happy with his game, when in fact he has miles to improve.

- IonSabres


I’m not saying he was definitely the problem either

I do think a lot of these locker room issues go away once we start winning games

And i think that starts this year
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:32 PM ET
and then??????????
- hehateme


Hahahahahaha

Was super drunk one night in nyc & almost got a “sweet” tattoo
My buddy was gonna get “dude”

Thankfully there was a wait at 4am for some reason & we just went to the after hours party
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:33 PM ET
It's crazy as can be.

Happy to have written my final daycare payment of my life. That'll be an extra $1300 laying around every month.

I come around for certain events. Probably disappear after the draft for a bit again.

- JVince11


Glad all is well
Daycare is nuts
$1300/month is more than college
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:36 PM ET
But it’s been proven that shot attempts = more wins. Again, not the only factor, but one of the most important

It has not been proven that faceoff wins = wins

That’s the difference

- sbroads24


Of course faceoffs on their own don’t = a win
No one said that
Doesn’t mean they aren’t important though

How much worse do u think our PP would be if Jack is losing those draws and costing us 20seconds or so to be run off?

Even when faceoffs don’t directly lead to goals, it still factors in

You discount them way too easily
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:41 PM ET
Of course faceoffs on their own don’t = a win
No one said that
Doesn’t mean they aren’t important though

How much worse do u think our PP would be if Jack is losing those draws and costing us 20seconds or so to be run off?

Even when faceoffs don’t directly lead to goals, it still factors in

You discount them way too easily

- jdfitz77

Eichel was 41% O’Reilly was 60%. Which in terms of faceoff stats that’s like the largest gap there is.

And yet it still would only be a 1 out of every 5 faceoff difference.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:43 PM ET
Boy, you are straight fooked when it comes to politics, but you sure know hockey lol.

Totally agree fitzy. Good post.

- RhinoFan


Boom
Hahahahaha

And no, Rhino is not a second account of mine
He’s obviously just a super smart dude!
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 21 @ 4:44 PM ET
Of course faceoffs on their own don’t = a win
No one said that
Doesn’t mean they aren’t important though

How much worse do u think our PP would be if Jack is losing those draws and costing us 20seconds or so to be run off?

Even when faceoffs don’t directly lead to goals, it still factors in

You discount them way too easily

- jdfitz77


How many PP faceoffs does RoR win above average per game? 1?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:47 PM ET
Eichel was 41% O’Reilly was 60%. Which in terms of faceoff stats that’s like the largest gap there is.

And yet it still would only be a 1 out of every 5 faceoff difference.

- sbroads24


Sure,
But I bet Eichel’s % on the PP would be even less, since he’d almost always be going up against the other teams’ best faceoff guy

This is the problem i have when u take a stat like his overall faceoff % and then just apply it to a specific situation

It’s not gonna be the same,
yet u talk like there won’t be a difference
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 21 @ 4:48 PM ET
How many PP faceoffs does RoR win above average per game? 1?
- Lunaion


BOOM
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