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IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:51 PM ET
Nelson is no longer waiver exempt. He's not going down unless he's atrocious in camp.
- Lunaion

he is our best defensemen so i doubt he goes down..
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:53 PM ET
doubt it.
Why wasn't he working on it WITH ROR who is the best and on his teams for the past 3 years.
Missed opportunity.

- IonSabres


No one seems to want to consider that maybe the issue is that Jack is acting like a punk?
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 21 @ 3:53 PM ET
I don't know how many times I am going to have to post this.

Tampa Bay was 27th in faceoff wins.
Colorado was 31st
Vegas was 22nd
Capitals 13th


Buffalo was 7th
Carolina was 1st

There are certain scenarios where winning a FO is important.

Over the course of the season, winning faceoffs and driving possession do not correlate in the slightest.

- ImThatGuy


Vegas, WSH, and TB do fall into your theory. But bored on a whim.. I decided to look this up.

Of the 16 teams that made the playoffs...

NSH - 2nd
COL - 31st (1st rd eliminated)

WPG - 5th
MIN - 16th (1st rd eliminated)

Vegas - 22nd
LAK - 17th (1st rd eliminated)

ANA - 8th
SJS - 8th (tie) (1st rd eliminated)

TBL - 27th
NJD - 30th (1st rd eliminated)

BOS - 10th
TOR - 6th (1st rd eliminated)

WSH - 13th
CLB - 26th (1st rd eliminated)

PIT - 14th
PHI - 2nd (1st rd Eliminated)




RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 21 @ 3:54 PM ET
he is our best defensemen so i doubt he goes down..
- IndianaSabresFan


Most likely.

Start of the year: Dahlin, Risto, Scandella, Bogo, Nelson, Guhle, McCabe.
Beau/Pilut get the call up once Bogo breaks.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
Really?


That sure sounds like “they don’t matter” to me

- jdfitz77



BOOM?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
I agree not a fan either... Zadina or Wahlstrom or what if they went defense again, Hughes?
- gordong


Hughes is risky for me
I think I’d put him last in that group of defensemen even though he’s got big upside
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 21 @ 3:56 PM ET
Most likely.

Start of the year: Dahlin, Risto, Scandella, Bogo, Nelson, Guhle, McCabe.
Beau/Pilut get the call up once Bogo breaks.

- RhinoFan


Guhle may start in Rochester 'cuz If BEAU is sent down he will be claimed.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 21 @ 3:56 PM ET
Those after practice O’Reilly practices really lifted this team to new heights.
- sbroads24


The biggest faceoff of the entire NHL season was won by Lars Eller, a 49% guy and a third line center.

It's not like RoR wins 80% cleanly or something.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:56 PM ET
Those after practice O’Reilly practices really lifted this team to new heights.
- sbroads24


Did they hurt?
Maybe playing xbox was more important...
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:59 PM ET
Yeah, I haven't done my normal draft research for the early 1st rd, 'cuz of the lottery result, but, obviously would trust BOTS judgment. I mean, there weren't many who "loved" the Mitts pick last year when it was made and he may end up being the #1 guy from the 2017 draft when all is said and done; certainly top 3
- turbo044


I wanna say Mitts was usually ranked 5th and fell to 8th
Can’t remember who is was (maybe one of the Sprtsnet guys?) said the other day that he’d take Mittelstadt FIRST OVERALL in a re-draft
I liked hearing that
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:00 PM ET
The biggest faceoff of the entire NHL season was won by Lars Eller, a 49% guy and a third line center.

It's not like RoR wins 80% cleanly or something.

- Lunaion

And that’s really it.

The best dude in the league is like 10% better than a coin flip.

It’s nothing big
Shadman306
Joined: 06.11.2015

Jun 21 @ 4:00 PM ET
I wanna say Mitts was usually ranked 5th and fell to 8th
Can’t remember who is was (maybe one of the Sprtsnet guys?) said the other day that he’d take Mittelstadt FIRST OVERALL in a re-draft
I liked hearing that

- jdfitz77


I think this is right. I know many were surprised he fell down to us, and that we got a steal
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:01 PM ET
BOOM?
- JVince11


Hahahaha

How’s family life sir?
Nice to cya back around
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:01 PM ET
Guhle may start in Rochester 'cuz If BEAU is sent down he will be claimed.
- turbo044

can we send baeiou down just to rid ourselves of him?
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:03 PM ET
I wanna say Mitts was usually ranked 5th and fell to 8th
Can’t remember who is was (maybe one of the Sprtsnet guys?) said the other day that he’d take Mittelstadt FIRST OVERALL in a re-draft
I liked hearing that

- jdfitz77

lets give him a few more games in the nhl before he is "re-drafted" #1.. the top two guys didn't really look that out of place in the NHL did they?
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 21 @ 4:03 PM ET
Guhle may start in Rochester 'cuz If BEAU is sent down he will be claimed.
- turbo044


and this is a bad thing? Bowl-u is not very good...
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:03 PM ET
And that’s really it.

The best dude in the league is like 10% better than a coin flip.

It’s nothing big

- sbroads24


Aren’t u a Corsi stats guy?

Isn’t the difference between a good Corsi team and a below average one just a few % points as well?

Should i say it again....
idk...
ah, f#ck it...

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM
hahaha
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 21 @ 4:04 PM ET
And that’s really it.

The best dude in the league is like 10% better than a coin flip.

It’s nothing big

- sbroads24


And a good chunk of that 10% doesn't even lead to clean possession. Even deciding the FO winner is debatable a decent amount of the time.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:05 PM ET
lets give him a few more games in the nhl before he is "re-drafted" #1.. the top two guys didn't really look that out of place in the NHL did they?
- IndianaSabresFan


Agreed
Just nice to hear

Wasn’t me saying that
BareMetal
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.15.2017

Jun 21 @ 4:05 PM ET
Patches looking for a 6 to 8 year deal. Figures not mentioned.

Only length.


No girth.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 21 @ 4:05 PM ET
I wanna say Mitts was usually ranked 5th and fell to 8th
Can’t remember who is was (maybe one of the Sprtsnet guys?) said the other day that he’d take Mittelstadt FIRST OVERALL in a re-draft
I liked hearing that

- jdfitz77


Yeah, Rangers traded up and picked some weird guy who projected then to be a 3rd/4th line center. At #8 I thought we were taking Owen Tippett to be Jack's future sniper and was a bit disappointed we took Casey. (haven't heard too much about him - he went #10 to Fla). Thank God I'm not the GM
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 21 @ 4:06 PM ET
Yeah, I haven't done my normal draft research for the early 1st rd, 'cuz of the lottery result, but, obviously would trust BOTS judgment. I mean, there weren't many who "loved" the Mitts pick last year when it was made and he may end up being the #1 guy from the 2017 draft when all is said and done; certainly top 3
- turbo044



yes, I was frustrated with the Mitts pick last year ... from a position perspective since they were obviously so devoid of D talent...a gapping hole.
Similar to the LW gappign hole this year.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:06 PM ET
Aren’t u a Corsi stats guy?

Isn’t the difference between a good Corsi team and a below average one just a few % points as well?

Should i say it again....
idk...
ah, f#ck it...

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM
hahaha

- jdfitz77

Sure, but shot attempts are infinitely more important than a face off.

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 21 @ 4:06 PM ET
No one seems to want to consider that maybe the issue is that Jack is acting like a punk?
- jdfitz77


Exactly, hence why I bring it up.
he seems to be happy with his game, when in fact he has miles to improve.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:07 PM ET
And there never has been, ever. And there are multiple articles written on it.

HOW ARE WE BACK TO THIS SILLY ARGUMENT

- sbroads24


There’s multiple articles written on how the earth is flat
Ask Gerbe, he’ll send u links
😂😂😂
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