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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Should the Vancouver Canucks take Zadina or Tkachuk if they fall to No. 7?
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NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 19 @ 5:59 PM ET
Eriksson gives me the trots
- VANTEL

Understandable
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 19 @ 6:00 PM ET


What do you call moving Eriksson

- VANTEL

not enough for that awful albatross contract. Webers got maybe 2-3 years of being relavant.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:04 PM ET
not enough for that awful albatross contract. Webers got maybe 2-3 years of being relavant.
- neem55


i think you're being generous considering he's on a pair of bionic knees and ankles

he's a slap shot and a shot blocker at this point in his career.
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:09 PM ET
This should put to rest any chance of us drafting Boqvist:

“He’s a good player in his own right,” said Benning. “Other guys just have a more well-rounded game.”

- CanuckDon

JB is pretty crafty, making the GMs picking after us think we aren’t taking Boqvist. Very clever.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 19 @ 6:09 PM ET
not enough for that awful albatross contract. Webers got maybe 2-3 years of being relavant.
- neem55


That is 2-3 more years than Eriksson

The first 4 years of the deal are a wash . In 4 years you have a 4 mil cap hit that you received a second round pick for and a third.

You also lose 4.5 mil of Tanevs salary for 3 years and pick up a first round pick for this draft and maybe a prospect .

And after the four years he goes on LTIR just like Hossa and Pronger
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 19 @ 6:10 PM ET
That is 2-3 more years than Eriksson

The first 4 years of the deal are a wash . In 4 years you have a 4 mil cap hit that you received a second round pick for and a third.

You also lose 4.5 mil of Tanevs salary for 3 years and pick up a first round pick for this draft and maybe a prospect .

And after the four years he goes on LTIR just like Hossa and Pronger

- VANTEL

It's been said but easier to hide and bury a forward vs. a Dman
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 19 @ 6:15 PM ET
That is 2-3 more years than Eriksson

The first 4 years of the deal are a wash . In 4 years you have a 4 mil cap hit that you received a second round pick for and a third.

You also lose 4.5 mil of Tanevs salary for 3 years and pick up a first round pick for this draft and maybe a prospect .

And after the four years he goes on LTIR just like Hossa and Pronger

- VANTEL

I have no idea how you can consider taking on that contract/term, Eriksson would be great to get rid of but he can at least defend. That's honestly more than I can say about Weber on a lot of nights given his foot speed/injuries.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 19 @ 6:16 PM ET
It's been said but easier to hide and bury a forward vs. a Dman
- NorthNuck



Three draft picks ,burying a horrible contract , cap relief on Tanev to acquire another Dman and not having to wake up to this every day



sign me up
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 19 @ 6:20 PM ET
That is 2-3 more years than Eriksson

The first 4 years of the deal are a wash . In 4 years you have a 4 mil cap hit that you received a second round pick for and a third.

You also lose 4.5 mil of Tanevs salary for 3 years and pick up a first round pick for this draft and maybe a prospect .

And after the four years he goes on LTIR just like Hossa and Pronger

- VANTEL

He still counts against the cap I'm all for taking on bad salary for 2-3 years, not 7 years of 8 mil. Awful idea IMO. Trading dead weight for longer dead weight is pointless if all your getting is a 2nd and 3rd.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 19 @ 6:20 PM ET
Three draft picks ,burying a horrible contract , cap relief on Tanev to acquire another Dman and not having to wake up to this every day



sign me up

- VANTEL

In what way do we need "cap relief" on Tanev? By my measure I'd say he's locked down for about 1mil less than he's worth
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:24 PM ET
He still counts against the cap I'm all for taking on bad salary for 2-3 years, not 7 years of 8 mil. Awful idea IMO. Trading dead weight for longer dead weight is pointless if all your getting is a 2nd and 3rd.
- neem55


Montreal would have to send the 3rd to get the conversation started.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 19 @ 6:27 PM ET
In what way do we need "cap relief" on Tanev? By my measure I'd say he's locked down for about 1mil less than he's worth
- NorthNuck


When a player no longer plays for your team you no longer have to pay for his salary in most cases . That no longer salary is called cap relief ?


Are we seriously discussing what words mean now
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 19 @ 6:28 PM ET
When a player no longer plays for your team you no longer have to pay for his salary in most cases . That no longer salary is called cap relief ?


Are we seriously discussing what words mean now

- VANTEL

It just sounded in context like it was a good thing to get him off the books which confused me
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 19 @ 6:29 PM ET
It just sounded in context like it was a good thing to get him off the books which confused me
- NorthNuck

Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 19 @ 6:31 PM ET
Gadjovich is an average to below average skater in junior. Thats not #good
- Lindenis#1


Basically a forward version of bouchard....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 19 @ 6:34 PM ET
For the record

Weber had 4 less goals and 3 less assists in 26 games compared to Loui's 50 games

Just saying
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:35 PM ET
Basically a forward version of bouchard....
- Pres.cup


Bouchard at least has top end speed. Its his edgework that raises flags.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:41 PM ET
For the record

Weber had 4 less goals and 3 less assists in 26 games compared to Loui's 50 games

Just saying

- VANTEL


8 more years at 7.2 mil and he gets around the ice like he has asthma.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 19 @ 6:44 PM ET
8 more years at 7.2 mil and he gets around the ice like he has asthma.
- Lindenis#1


Weber and number 3ov, 1million retained

For

Eriksson, 7th round pick
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 19 @ 6:45 PM ET
8 more years at 7.2 mil and he gets around the ice like he has asthma.
- Lindenis#1



https://www.prohockeyrumo...the-shea-weber-trade.html


Get him to retire Nashville pays the bill
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 19 @ 6:47 PM ET
8 more years at 7.2 mil and he gets around the ice like he has asthma.
- Lindenis#1

7.8
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 19 @ 6:48 PM ET
Weber and number 3ov, 1million retained

For

Eriksson, 7th round pick

- Pres.cup


This to me would be worth entertaining, Zadina is a pretty unreal prospect.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 19 @ 6:50 PM ET
https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2018/02/examining-salary-cap-recapture-in-the-shea-weber-trade.html


Get him to retire Nashville pays the bill

- VANTEL

That's an interesting tidbit
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 19 @ 6:56 PM ET
Weber and number 3ov, 1million retained

For

Eriksson, 7th round pick

- Pres.cup

I would do this. our recapture if he retires would not be huge either, it will primarily be on MTL and Nash
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 19 @ 6:59 PM ET
I would do this. our recapture if he retires would not be huge either, it will primarily be on MTL and Nash
- Retinalz


Can I drive Loui to the airport?
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