Ya that sounds like Dobson or Hughes. I only leave out Bouchard because JB has also talked about focusing on speed.
- neem55

God I hope it's not Bouchard or Boqvist. Good prospects, but definitely not #7 worthy imo.


Ideally they draft Hughes or Dobson and Berggren falls to 37

While true, I don't think Benning has had quite the lemons to make lemonade with. He has squandered some assets, as all GM's do, but I can't think of many good assets he had the opportunity to start a bidding war with freely
- WhiteLie

He had enough lemons to where he should be net positive.

That's true. The Canucks do desperately need a playmaking C with speed. God bless Bo, but he's a powerforward.
- Nucker101

And that is why Keller > Juolevi. #(frank)Consensus



Apologies to the Juolevi stans in here, but you don’t pass up on elite skill. Ever.

Veleno's offensive instincts aren't there for me, but we've already gone back and fourth on this so no point in doing it again. Agree to disagree on both him and Kotkaniemi lol.


I don't mind Lundestrom in the 2nd round if he's there.
- Nucker101

Disagree for sure. Voleno's not a good scorer, but he is one of the better passer's in this draft and had the most primary assists of anyone in the Q to prove it (that and plenty of tape showing his floaters and no-look passes). I love that combination of a shut down guy that possesses the puck well. Needs to work on simplifying some of his game but his vision and IQ are very high IMO. I'm biased, but I've also watched a lot of tape on both. Voleno's a better 200 ft player, distributes well. Kotk is unreal in the ozone, unreal shot and hands.

And that is why Keller > Juolevi. #(frank)Consensus



Apologies to the Juolevi stans in here, but you don’t pass up on elite skill. Ever.
- DrChristianTroy

He is much better, but he is a winger... which seems like you are responding about the need at center, so I thought I would point out.

He is much better, but he is a winger... which seems like you are responding about the need at center, so I thought I would point out.
- neem55

He can play any position on the top line.

He had enough lemons to where he should be net positive.
- LeftCoaster

Net positive as in just getting a few more late round picks, or quality picks? Because yes, any GM can acquire a lot of picks past the 4th round, but looking at the roster he received, Hansen might've been the best asset he had the freedom to deal with limited player approval.

I agree he should have more picks in total, and I advocated moving certain players earlier, but I don't see the volume of assets that didn't depreciate very fast

Berggren and Kravstov have been discussed here, but Farabee is one of the least talked about top 15 guys.


He had a similar PPG to Wahlstrom before Hughes came along and Farabee was dropped to the 2nd line while Wahlstrom rode shotgun with Hughes and his point totals sky rocketed.

I bet Farabee was moved down because he's a better puck handler than Wahlstrom so it made sense to have him on a separate line from Hughes.

He's a skinny kid, but his skill, hockey sense and speed is really good. Not as good of a goal scorer as Wahlstrom, but he does everything else better than Wahlstrom and he's not exactly bad at scoring either. He has two brothers who are 6'3 and 200+ lbs so there's a chance he still has some growing to do and he should be able to fill out as well.

- Guy battles hard despite being a skinny kid, doesn't back down is willing to play around the net.

- Skill and hands are definitely legit, he can handle the puck, really good at playmaking or creating space for himself

- good at scoring, doesn't have Wahlstrom or Zadina's lethal shot, but his finishing ability isn't too shabby.

- Just needs to mature physically, since his size/speed combo isn't the best. He's not slow though, but his skating stride looks awkward, probably needs a skating coach. And if his older brothers are any indication, he can pack on some muscle and maybe even still grow a bit.

And that is why Keller > Juolevi. #(frank)Consensus

Apologies to the Juolevi stans in here, but you don’t pass up on elite skill. Ever.
- DrChristianTroy

He can play any position on the top line.
- DrChristianTroy

He's a winger, was drafter as a C/RW. He's 5'10, has only played RW for Arizona. Not many scouts had him as a top 10 pick, saying in hindsight we should have gone with a guy that was projected to go in the 9-15 range is a little silly.

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- LeftCoaster

Any ideas? what was NuckFU avatar

Ya that sounds like Dobson or Hughes. I only leave out Bouchard because JB has also talked about focusing on speed.
- neem55

My thoughts exactly. Although if they are off the board as well as Zadina, I bet they take Bouchard

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Now it makes more sense

Net positive as in just getting a few more late round picks, or quality picks? Because yes, any GM can acquire a lot of picks past the 4th round, but looking at the roster he received, Hansen might've been the best asset he had the freedom to deal with limited player approval.

I agree he should have more picks in total, and I advocated moving certain players earlier, but I don't see the volume of assets that didn't depreciate very fast
- WhiteLie

Quality....he got good picks for Bieksa and Garrison, got nothing for Hamhuis, got a third for that clown goalie, there's been enough guys around he could've got more imo but it's water under the bridge. He didn't, bottom line.

My thoughts exactly. Although if they are off the board as well as Zadina, I bet they take Bouchard
- CanuckDon

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- CanuckDon

you'd have to look back six months or so.

He's a winger, was drafter as a C/RW. He's 5'10, has only played RW for Arizona. Not many scouts had him as a top 10 pick, saying in hindsight we should have gone with a guy that was projected to go in the 9-15 range is a little silly.
- neem55

(frank) off with the hindsight BS. Keller was my guy at 5. This is why you people drive me crazy with your consensus based rankings.

Any ideas? what was NuckFU avatar
- CanuckDon

Sign with guy banging his head on the desk, which was so ironic

Quality....he got good picks for Bieksa and Garrison, got nothing for Hamhuis, got a third for that clown goalie, there's been enough guys around he could've got more imo but it's water under the bridge. He didn't, bottom line.
- LeftCoaster

Ironically, his best returns have been on players he didn't even bring in.


What's the best pick or prospects he's received for a player he's brought in? lol

That's the frustrating part, Canucks should have been trying to sign and flip way sooner instead of trying to win with the old Sedins + a mediocre/bad supporting cast. Part of the blame is on ownership and part of it is on management.

(frank) off with the hindsight BS. Keller was my guy at 5. This is why you people drive me crazy with your consensus based rankings.
- DrChristianTroy

I just look at all the scouts rankings, sorry if I trust a professional talent evaluators more than your alleged opinion. I don't remember anyone on this board ever pitching keller. So (frank) off with that BS

(frank) off with the hindsight BS. Keller was my guy at 5. This is why you people drive me crazy with your consensus based rankings.
- DrChristianTroy

I agree, He was my guy at 5 as well. Had him over PLD.


Keller was a consensus at 8 when you average everyone.
http://www.mynhldraft.com...draft-consensus-rankings/
Pettersson was consensus 9

Sign with guy banging his head on the desk, which was so ironic
- neem55

Yes! Good
Memory! That’s a great avatar for Prez

Yes! Good
Memory! That’s a great avatar for Prez
- CanuckDon

You cruel, cruel bastard

I just look at all the scouts rankings, sorry if I trust a professional talent evaluators more than your alleged opinion. I don't remember anyone on this board ever pitching keller.
- neem55

He did.


You can't really say you trust professional talent evaluators, the only public rankings are the ones made up by guys who aren't employed by NHL teams lol.

Except for McKenzie's list, which again is only a consensus of like 6-7 scouts. And that doesn't mean much since one professional scout on that list could have Boqvist ranked 5th and one could have him ranked 11th. I doubt there's many prospects on that list that all 6 scouts have ranked in the exact same spot....

Same with Keller, I bet at least one professional scout in the NHL had him ranked higher than consensus so your "I only trust pro scouts" mentality doesn't make sense lol.

Ironically, his best returns have been on players he didn't even bring in.


What's the best pick or prospects he's received for a player he's brought in? lol

That's the frustrating part, Canucks should have been trying to sign and flip way sooner instead of trying to win with the old Sedins + a mediocre/bad supporting cast. Part of the blame is on ownership and part of it is on management.
- Nucker101

I blame Edmonton, LA, and SJ for all sandbagging one season together giving the Canucks the 2nd seed in the Pacific which started this false belief they had more playoff runs in them. They should've missed and dealt Vrbata that offseason and looked at cashing in on a few others the following year