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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Rasmus Dahlin week? Nah. Let's play, 'Fix the Ryan O'Reilly Deal'
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adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 18 @ 11:28 AM ET
If Friday comes and goes without an O'Reilly trade, there will so many people melting down here
- jcragcrumple


If he is going to be traded, I don't think it would happen until after July 1st. His bonus would be paid and teams who miss out on Tavares may be interested in ROR.

If he is traded before the draft it would have to be a huge deal, hopefully including a top 6 pick.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 18 @ 11:30 AM ET
Is Jack Eichel really untouchable in Buffalo? Obviously a young, offensively talented player but I honestly don't get the sense he is going to be a true franchise player.

If you could send Eichel & 2018 2nd to Carolina for Hanifin, the #2 pick & Lindbolm wouldn't you at least consider it?

- MacPatty



No.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 18 @ 11:32 AM ET
Lol, the Hawks signed that contract knowing he would never play the last three years, and then he came down with terminal itcher's disease. The league called bullpoop
- jcragcrumple


Sorry. The league approved the contract (July 1 2009). Then three plus years later after the new CBA was signed they changed the rules (January 9th 2013).
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 18 @ 11:35 AM ET
No I am really actually cheering for him to be a solid 2nd pairing contributer on this team still. I think he had some good little runs in him in 2016 when healthy. He had like 8 pts in 12 games at one time I think.

I really hope he has a good comeback season as any fan of their respective team should hope.

- JVince11


Bill Masterton trophy winner if he does?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 11:37 AM ET
Bill Masterton trophy winner if he does?
- adambuffalo


Jack is going to take it
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 18 @ 11:37 AM ET
No I am really actually cheering for him to be a solid 2nd pairing contributer on this team still. I think he had some good little runs in him in 2016 when healthy. He had like 8 pts in 12 games at one time I think.

I really hope he has a good comeback season as any fan of their respective team should hope.

- JVince11

i am sure just about everyone would love to see that happen.. but realistically it doesn't basically or technically seem likely
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 18 @ 11:38 AM ET
Jack is going to take it
- gerbe75pts

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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 18 @ 11:38 AM ET
Sorry. The league approved the contract (July 1 2009). Then three plus years later after the new CBA was signed they changed the rules (January 9th 2013).
- -Doh-


Yeah, cause and effect. Shady stuff = rule changes. What's it matter? The Hawks got away with it anyway
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:42 AM ET
1. LD Rasmus Dahlin. It’s difficult to come up with a list of comparables for elite talent, because it’s just so rare. Very few players are good enough to hang around Sweden’s top league in their first season of draft eligibility; even fewer manage to excel. For the period from 2006 to 2011, every single defenceman to play primarily in the SHL at age 17 went on to appear in at least one NHL game. In fact, there’s really only one comparable for Dahlin in this window: Victor Hedman. He laps some strong NHL players—at the same age guys like Oscar Klefbom, Jonas Brodin and Adam Larsson played at the same level but couldn’t touch Dahlin’s results. But if you’re reading a draft preview, you already know that Dahlin is all by himself at the top of the draft charts.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:45 AM ET
Yeah, cause and effect. Shady stuff = rule changes. What's it matter? The Hawks got away with it anyway
- jcragcrumple


It is still amazing to me that Chicago has probably 3 of the top 10 worst contracts in the NHL today... and they don't get more redicule.

Toews, Seabrook, & Hossa. Toews/Seabrooke will take 21M in actual salary this year.

Honorable mention of Brandon Saad. His is at least only 3 more years at 6M.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 11:46 AM ET
It is still amazing to me that Chicago has probably 3 of the top 10 worst contracts in the NHL today... and they don't get more redicule.

Toews, Seabrook, & Hossa. Toews/Seabrooke will take 21M in actual salary this year.

Honorable mention of Brandon Saad. His is at least only 3 more years at 6M.

- JVince11

He's still very good, and very young.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:47 AM ET
i am sure just about everyone would love to see that happen.. but realistically it doesn't basically or technically seem likely
- IndianaSabresFan


Never know. I honestly like the idea of putting Dahlin next to him at first in camp on the 2nd line.

I think that if Bogo can play 55+ games and score 20+ pts... I'll consider it a positive year.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 11:47 AM ET
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- IndianaSabresFan

Back - back injuries then finally hits 100
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 18 @ 11:48 AM ET
From Spector's page


SPECTOR’S NOTE: Bergevin will listen to offers, but unless he’s getting a skilled scoring center as the centerpiece of the return, he won’t move that pick. Perhaps the Sabres are interested in moving O’Reilly, but I think they’ll want more than just the third-overall pick in the deal.


More than 3 OA? I think most here would be happy with just the pick.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 11:48 AM ET
He's still very good, and very young.
- sbroads24


Still a horrible trade :/
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:48 AM ET
He's still very good, and very young.
- sbroads24


Absolutely. And I'd even love him in our sweater but last year was a deeeeeep dive in production from him. If he continues on this 30-35 pt line while paid 6M it could be frowned upon.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 11:49 AM ET
From Spector's page


SPECTOR’S NOTE: Bergevin will listen to offers, but unless he’s getting a skilled scoring center as the centerpiece of the return, he won’t move that pick. Perhaps the Sabres are interested in moving O’Reilly, but I think they’ll want more than just the third-overall pick in the deal.


More than 3 OA? I think most here would be happy with just the pick.

- adambuffalo


Me just get the 3rd and I’m happy
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 11:51 AM ET
Absolutely. And I'd even love him in our sweater but last year was a deeeeeep dive in production from him. If he continues on this 30-35 pt line while paid 6M it could be frowned upon.
- JVince11

He didn't get PP production

His 17 EV goals were tied for 72nd, and his 35 EV points were in the low 100's.

He's still a firm top 6 player at EV. Just not a PP guy
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 18 @ 11:54 AM ET
From Spector's page


SPECTOR’S NOTE: Bergevin will listen to offers, but unless he’s getting a skilled scoring center as the centerpiece of the return, he won’t move that pick. Perhaps the Sabres are interested in moving O’Reilly, but I think they’ll want more than just the third-overall pick in the deal.


More than 3 OA? I think most here would be happy with just the pick.

- adambuffalo


Without sounding too greedy, i'd want a defensive 3rd line center to fill the void and allow Erod to create on the wing without having to worry about faceoffs and defensive responsibilties.

Maybe that would involve a 3rd team in the trade, and Buffalo would give something else up
RobShouts
St Louis Blues
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 07.13.2013

Jun 18 @ 11:54 AM ET
Maybe Kostin, but there’s no way in the world St. Louis gives up Thomas.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:56 AM ET
Without sounding too greedy, i'd want a defensive 3rd line center to fill the void and allow Erod to create on the wing without having to worry about faceoffs and defensive responsibilties.

Maybe that would involve a 3rd team in the trade, and Buffalo would give something else up

- jcragcrumple


BRING BACK D-LO OR BYRON!!!! lol
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 18 @ 11:58 AM ET
Maybe Kostin, but there’s no way in the world St. Louis gives up Thomas.
- RobShouts



What about a trade centered around Schwartz for ROR?
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 18 @ 11:59 AM ET
It is still amazing to me that Chicago has probably 3 of the top 10 worst contracts in the NHL today... and they don't get more redicule.

Toews, Seabrook, & Hossa. Toews/Seabrooke will take 21M in actual salary this year.

Honorable mention of Brandon Saad. His is at least only 3 more years at 6M.

- JVince11


You need to visit the Hawks Blog on this website (Justin Lowe). There is a TON of ridicule. Although 3 cups in the last 8 years muffles it a little.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:01 PM ET
From Spector's page


SPECTOR’S NOTE: Bergevin will listen to offers, but unless he’s getting a skilled scoring center as the centerpiece of the return, he won’t move that pick. Perhaps the Sabres are interested in moving O’Reilly, but I think they’ll want more than just the third-overall pick in the deal.


More than 3 OA? I think most here would be happy with just the pick.

- adambuffalo


We will never get that pick for just ROR. I was thinking we would have to add at least #32.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:01 PM ET
The Buffalo Athletic is super great
- TheSabresTaco


Even before today it was still great content. Nice to read the more Sabre centric articles. Baker’s was like reading a short novel.
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