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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 18 @ 8:12 PM ET

- homiedclown

saw that...not surprising that buffalo sports fans are flocking to the athletic for coverage...would rather pay $5/month there than for tbn's online subscription
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 18 @ 8:14 PM ET
Andrei Svechnikov has apparently separated himself from the rest of the field eligible for the 2018 NHL Draft.

"If you want to know the truth," one scout said, "Svechnikov may be closer to [Rasmus] Dahlin for No. 1 than the rest of the field is to Svechnikov." Bob McKenzie's TSN Final Draft Rankings has Svechnikov as the consensus No. 2 prospect.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 18 @ 8:15 PM ET

- homiedclown

He should charge his phone, it's at 16%
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Jun 18 @ 8:18 PM ET
Well, call it what you want, fact is he heard directly from sverals teams on their proposal.
So he was in the FA process. He did not withdraw prior to hearing from other teams.

- IonSabres


The fact is you have no idea what was discussed. He did not make it to free agency. That's the only fact here.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 8:20 PM ET
Fake news.

He signed the deal on 6/29. He made it to "able to talk to other teams, but not about contracts". When he signed his deal the only team he could sign with was the Lightning.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/steven-stamkos

- Wetbandit1


Oh, so I guess he never had those meetings with other teams to hear their propsals.
He entered the legal tampering period to gain the benefits of being a FA.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 18 @ 8:21 PM ET
The fact is you have no idea what was discussed. He did not make it to free agency. That's the only fact here.
- Wetbandit1


Ok
Richard
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 8:25 PM ET
Andrei Svechnikov has apparently separated himself from the rest of the field eligible for the 2018 NHL Draft.

"If you want to know the truth," one scout said, "Svechnikov may be closer to

- SABRES 89[Rasmus] Dahlin for No. 1 than the rest of the field is to Svechnikov." Bob McKenzie's TSN Final Draft Rankings has Svechnikov as the consensus No. 2 prospect.


If Dahlin was Canadian everyone would shut up
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Jun 18 @ 8:26 PM ET
The fact is you have no idea what was discussed. He did not make it to free agency. That's the only fact here.
- Wetbandit1


But he did talk to a bunch of teams when that
48 hour window happen
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 18 @ 8:27 PM ET
can someone explain to me how the caps and barry trotz couldn't come together on a contract?

since ovie was drafted in 2004 and expectations rose, the caps went through four coaches, missing the playoffs three times and not making it past the second round at all...

trotz also had trouble making it past the second round until this year and he got ovie to play the best, most selfless hockey of his entire career on their way to the cup...

*shakes head*
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 18 @ 8:28 PM ET
But did talk to a bunch of teams when that
48 hour window happen

- gerbe75pts


They talked about the weather in January and if shorts are appropriate.
SABRES 89
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Jun 18 @ 8:28 PM ET
If Dahlin was Canadian everyone would shut up
- gerbe75pts

Sabres are in the spot light and people can't handle it, makes them crazy.
SABRES 89
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Jun 18 @ 8:29 PM ET
can someone explain to me how the caps and barry trotz couldn't come together on a contract?

since ovie was drafted in 2004 and expectations rose, the caps went through four coaches, missing the playoffs three times and not making it past the second round at all...

trotz also had trouble making it past the second round until this year and he got ovie to play the best, most selfless hockey of his entire career on their way to the cup...

*shakes head*

- Michael Pachla

If they won the cup he automatically gets a 2 yr extension and his contract goes to 1.8 mill a year. He wanted it renegotiated and they couldn't agree on a price.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 8:30 PM ET
can someone explain to me how the caps and barry trotz couldn't come together on a contract?

since ovie was drafted in 2004 and expectations rose, the caps went through four coaches, missing the playoffs three times and not making it past the second round at all...

trotz also had trouble making it past the second round until this year and he got ovie to play the best, most selfless hockey of his entire career on their way to the cup...

*shakes head*

- Michael Pachla


Case of whose Richard is bigger.
I'm on the side of Trotz, good for him...he'll get a nice deal elsewhere.
SABRES 89
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Jun 18 @ 8:33 PM ET
Case of whose Richard is bigger.
I'm on the side of Trotz, good for him...he'll get a nice deal elsewhere.

- IonSabres

Sorry, but I would kick Housley to the curb, I know people won't agree but he's not the guy to lead this team. I hope i'm wrong.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 18 @ 8:35 PM ET
If they won the cup he automatically gets a 2 yr extension and his contract goes to 1.8 mill a year. He wanted it renegotiated and they couldn't agree on a price.
- SABRES 89

"[Trotz's] representative wants to take advantage of Barry’s experience and Stanley Cup win and is trying to negotiate a deal that compensates him as one of the better coaches in the league,” Gm John MacLellan told reporters in Washington. “A top-four or -five coach. He’s looking for that type of contract.”

And...

why shouldn't he?...he did something no other coach in Caps history was able to do, win the Cup...and he's fifth amongst active coaches in wins...and his 205 regular season wins were second only to Bryan Murray's 343, which took nine seasons
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
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Jun 18 @ 8:35 PM ET
He should charge his phone, it's at 16%
- SABRES 89

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 18 @ 8:35 PM ET
Sorry, but I would kick Housley to the curb, I know people won't agree but he's not the guy to lead this team. I hope i'm wrong.
- SABRES 89

I agree...but I've heard and have read that coaching doesn't matter
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 18 @ 8:37 PM ET
Case of whose Richard is bigger.
I'm on the side of Trotz, good for him...he'll get a nice deal elsewhere.

- IonSabres

and join the ever long list of coaches never to win cup for a second team
SABRES 89
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Jun 18 @ 8:37 PM ET
"
- Michael Pachla[Trotz's] representative wants to take advantage of Barry’s experience and Stanley Cup win and is trying to negotiate a deal that compensates him as one of the better coaches in the league,” Gm John MacLellan told reporters in Washington. “A top-four or -five coach. He’s looking for that type of contract.”

And...

why shouldn't he?...he did something no other coach in Caps history was able to do, win the Cup...and he's fifth amongst active coaches in wins...and his 205 regular season wins were second only to Bryan Murray's 343, which took nine seasons

See my above post
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 18 @ 8:37 PM ET
I agree...but I've heard and have read that coaching doesn't matter
- Michael Pachla

special teams matter more
SABRES 89
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Jun 18 @ 8:38 PM ET
I agree...but I've heard and have read that coaching doesn't matter
- Michael Pachla

Neither do special teams and pull ups
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 18 @ 8:38 PM ET
If Dahlin was Canadian everyone would shut up
- gerbe75pts

But Svechnikov isn’t Canadian
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 8:39 PM ET
"
- Michael Pachla[Trotz's] representative wants to take advantage of Barry’s experience and Stanley Cup win and is trying to negotiate a deal that compensates him as one of the better coaches in the league,” Gm John MacLellan told reporters in Washington. “A top-four or -five coach. He’s looking for that type of contract.”

And...

why shouldn't he?...he did something no other coach in Caps history was able to do, win the Cup...and he's fifth amongst active coaches in wins...and his 205 regular season wins were second only to Bryan Murray's 343, which took 10 seasons


Not sure how they came up with the $1.8, but if he wanted to be paid top 5, then that should have been the clause.
Still, the $1.8 m is way, way low...should have been in the $3 -$4 range. Quennville and Babs are $6(+)
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 18 @ 8:39 PM ET
Neither do special teams and pull ups
- SABRES 89


thank god...I haven't been able to do a pullup for decades
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 18 @ 8:40 PM ET
Neither do special teams and pull ups
- SABRES 89


Culture, faceoffs ... all com0letely wortthless.
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