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Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 18 @ 6:18 PM ET
I was told we could sign Skinner for free so why does that not hold true for any free agent?

Why didn’t we sign Mike Richards? He was a UFA and free?

- ImThatGuy



It was Brad Richards was it not?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 18 @ 6:19 PM ET
It was Brad Richards was it not?
- Stripes77

Yes
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 18 @ 6:25 PM ET
Yes
- SABRES 89

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 18 @ 6:27 PM ET
Question: when Tavares does start negotiating with other teams, which big Canadian companies are the Toronto Maple Leafs going to bring to the table this time around? Canadian Tire, Tim Horton's and...
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:31 PM ET
Question: when Tavares does start negotiating with other teams, which big Canadian companies are the Toronto Maple Leafs going to bring to the table this time around? Canadian Tire, Tim Horton's and...
- buffalofan19


the owners of Sunnyvale trailer park.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 6:31 PM ET
I was told we could sign Skinner for free so why does that not hold true for any free agent?

Why didn’t we sign Mike Richards? He was a UFA and free?

- ImThatGuy


Not sure why you're going off on this one so hard though...i have heard the "Why not wait til he hits FA in a few months" a couple hundred times over the years on here.

What I comprehended from his post was...
Why spend a highly valued asset on a guy who could be available next year without costing said asset.
Now, if Skinner is a one of a kind player, then it changes the value since you then have a year to try to get a deal done without any, competition....that is worth something.
If you believe there are other similar players to Skinner, then he is less valuable to use ROR on.

I get that logic in spades.
He doesn't excite me that much...I would expect to get more for FOR.
Whatever though, people value players differently.

Many players choose to stay where they are for a number of reasons...obviously you can't depend on someone going to FA...but it does happen...less and less though I will admit that as teams try to lock up their guys...hence the trade route.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:33 PM ET
I don't think Jesus Christ could hit a curveball.
- JVince11



gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 6:33 PM ET
hahaha I saw that Gerbe
- feetontheair22


I will never show my cards
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 6:35 PM ET
I honestly think that is the best angle for JB to pursue. The Habs are DESPERATE for a center and their fan base/price/weber can't wait around to develop one. ROR can play top line minutes. He is head and shoulders better than any other center on the market right now.

Put the screws too um JB!

- feetontheair22


That’s what I’m saying make them pay or will just move him to a different team
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
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Jun 18 @ 6:37 PM ET

- Wetbandit1


Love that movie
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 6:38 PM ET
Stamkos technically never hit UFA status. He got to the "courting period" but that deal was signed before Tampa would have officially lost his rights.
- buffalofan19


Well, call it what you want, fact is he heard directly from sverals teams on their proposal.
So he was in the FA process. He did not withdraw prior to hearing from other teams.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:40 PM ET
That’s what I’m saying make them pay or will just move him to a different team
- gerbe75pts


I think the trade happens. I think they squeeze ROR & McCabe out of us for 3rd overall....but I think it could legitimately happen.

I know this trade would leave us a bit bare at 2C...but we start the the year giving Mitts the chance to earn it. Erod holds down 3C. And who cares takes 4C

Zadina - Eichel - Reinhart
Free Agent - Mitts - Okposo
Girgs - Erod - Baptiste
Wilson - O'Regan/Malone/Who cares - Bailey

Dahlin - Risto
Scandella - Bogo
Guhle - Nelson

Ullmark
Free Agent

Is this gonna win us a cup? No. But it is a roster with a lot of talent that will be together for a long time.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 6:42 PM ET
That’s what I’m saying make them pay or will just move him to a different team
- gerbe75pts


Or keep him and his 23G 42A while playing big minutes and sheltering Mitts.
Find a LW for him and watch him produce 75 points with Reino!
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 6:44 PM ET
I think the trade happens. I think they squeeze ROR & McCabe out of us for 3rd overall....but I think it could legitimately happen.
- feetontheair22


(frank), throw in Bustlander and get Pac too!
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 6:47 PM ET
Or keep him and his 23G 42A while playing big minutes and sheltering Mitts.
Find a LW for him and watch him produce 75 points with Reino!

- IonSabres


I don’t want this baby on this team he will have a fit when jack is captain


Just move him to highest bidder if the Habs don’t give the 3rd
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 6:48 PM ET
(frank), throw in Bustlander and get Pac too!
- IonSabres


:|
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 18 @ 6:49 PM ET
(frank), throw in Bustlander and get Pac too!
- IonSabres

and stinkelpot as well
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:51 PM ET
(frank), throw in Bustlander and get Pac too!
- IonSabres



Nooooo thanks. I am not doubting his ability at all. He's a hell of a goal-scorer. But he doesn't fit the rebuild timeline.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:55 PM ET
This is how much leverage we hold in a ROR trade:

According to TSN's trade bait list ROR is the #2 player on the list, right behind Erik Karlsson.

The next "center" (they have him listed as LW/C)..number 19 on the list......


Max Domi
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:55 PM ET
Nooooo thanks. I am not doubting his ability at all. He's a hell of a goal-scorer. But he doesn't fit the rebuild timeline.
- feetontheair22


Did Botts share his "rebuild timeline" with you? 😉
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:56 PM ET
Did Botts share his "rebuild timeline" with you? 😉
- Powerslave


Can neither confirm nor deny
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 6:59 PM ET
I don’t want this baby on this team he will have a fit when jack is captain


Just move him to highest bidder if the Habs don’t give the 3rd

- gerbe75pts



He'll be fine.
Tell $10mJack80 to man up, lead and get the lockeroom to follow him, not ROR.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 18 @ 7:00 PM ET
He'll be fine.
Tell $10mJack80 to man up, lead and get the lockeroom to follow him, not ROR.

- IonSabres


Seriously. They're 22 and 27. They can figure it out and work together if ROR isn't traded
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 7:04 PM ET
Nooooo thanks. I am not doubting his ability at all. He's a hell of a goal-scorer. But he doesn't fit the rebuild timeline.
- feetontheair22


Leadership, plays the right way, can skate and score. I'd take him for the cost of a guy who may get sent down to the ECHL unless he pickes it up fast. (Lol, couldnt resist).
If he wants an excessive contract, trade him at the TD?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 18 @ 7:04 PM ET
I think the trade happens. I think they squeeze ROR & McCabe out of us for 3rd overall....but I think it could legitimately happen.

I know this trade would leave us a bit bare at 2C...but we start the the year giving Mitts the chance to earn it. Erod holds down 3C. And who cares takes 4C

Zadina - Eichel - Reinhart
Free Agent - Mitts - Okposo
Girgs - Erod - Baptiste
Wilson - O'Regan/Malone/Who cares - Bailey

Dahlin - Risto
Scandella - Bogo
Guhle - Nelson

Ullmark
Free Agent

Is this gonna win us a cup? No. But it is a roster with a lot of talent that will be together for a long time.

- feetontheair22


That's really not much a of squeeze. McCabe is expendable and people here put him or #32 in every deal because of that. Squeezing would mean someone like Guhle, who I would really hate to give up. End of the day, I think Montreal just takes Kotkaniemi at #3.
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