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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Rasmus Dahlin week? Nah. Let's play, 'Fix the Ryan O'Reilly Deal'
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sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
ROR also led all forwards in average ice time with over 23 minutes no ? Skinner plays like what 17 minutes a night ? The extra 6 minutes a game factors out to an additional 8.2 games a year that ROR plays over Skinner. Skinner would of had another 6-7 points if he played the same amount of minutes that ROR did so really the trade off is 3 points instead of 10. Skinner also is a much faster player and would play on Eichel’s wing which would garner more points then playing with Staal or Rask would.
- Pegullaville



Oh, so we're going to talk in potential and not resumes, (would've, could've, should'ves…) With this logic we should just trade for Ennis back, because he skates like the wind, can stick handle in a phonebooth, and would have a million points on Eichel's wing.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
ROR also led all forwards in average ice time with over 23 minutes no ? Skinner plays like what 17 minutes a night ? The extra 6 minutes a game factors out to an additional 8.2 games a year that ROR plays over Skinner. Skinner would of had another 6-7 points if he played the same amount of minutes that ROR did so really the trade off is 3 points instead of 10. Skinner also is a much faster player and would play on Eichel’s wing which would garner more points then playing with Staal or Rask would.
- Pegullaville


To add: Skinner is a sniper and suffers with less offensively inclined linemates. So does Eichel. Eichel makes them better, and a player of Skinner's ilk can and will increase his value playing next to a player like Eichel.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
ROR also led all forwards in average ice time with over 23 minutes no ? Skinner plays like what 17 minutes a night ? The extra 6 minutes a game factors out to an additional 8.2 games a year that ROR plays over Skinner. Skinner would of had another 6-7 points if he played the same amount of minutes that ROR did so really the trade off is 3 points instead of 10. Skinner also is a much faster player and would play on Eichel’s wing which would garner more points then playing with Staal or Rask would.
- Pegullaville


Of those 23 ATOI of ROR's I bet 17 of them is in the DZone and neutral zone taking every faceoff.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:38 PM ET
What about Skinner becoming an UFA next year? You get 1 year for 5 years? That is the epitome of stupid if you don't re-sign him.
- GilPerreault11


Also forgetting the fact that O’Reilly has cement skates as it is now. I give him two-three more years tops before he becomes Chris Drury NYR edition and a team can’t buy him out due to the structure of his contract.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:38 PM ET
People on this blog say ROR stinks and his attitude is bad and he's overpaid but yet they throw out all these ridiculous trade offers for the other teams best players.
- SABRES 89


He doesn't stink. But the other things are true.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:39 PM ET
People on this blog say ROR stinks and his attitude is bad and he's overpaid but yet they throw out all these ridiculous trade offers for the other teams best players.
- SABRES 89


T.....................H..........................I.........................S



I mean he's no Brayden McNabb but c'mon.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:40 PM ET
People on this blog say ROR stinks and his attitude is bad and he's overpaid but yet they throw out all these ridiculous trade offers for the other teams best players.
- SABRES 89


hes a very good 2nd line center.

but I have to dispel a lot of these notions that he is physical, tough, fast.

he also does have a s(* attitude.

I hope someone overpays for him.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:40 PM ET
Of those 23 ATOI of ROR's I bet 17 of them is in the DZone and neutral zone taking every faceoff.
- JVince11


Most of his point production is also virtue of power play.... so why not sign Riley Nash or Bozak that could do the same thing ? Skinner can score 30 on Eichel’s wing and take over his power play minutes.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:41 PM ET
Also forgetting the fact that O’Reilly has cement skates as it is now. I give him two-three more years tops before he becomes Chris Drury NYR edition and a team can’t buy him out due to the structure of his contract.
- Pegullaville


This, so much this.

The guy produces, i will give him that, but he is slow and has a piss poor attitude.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:41 PM ET
wait til the draft passes and he is still a sabre



- homiedclown


About a 99% chance if Bott is asking the same as some of these people.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:41 PM ET
He doesn't stink. But the other things are true.
- TheSabresTaco

Your attitude would suck too if you were on a team of losers every year, that's the going rate for a player like him. Moving him and putting Casey as 2nd line Center is a bad idea, kid isn't ready yet. However, there is more to the story.................
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 18 @ 2:41 PM ET
To add: Skinner is a sniper and suffers with less offensively inclined linemates. So does Eichel. Eichel makes them better, and a player of Skinner's ilk can and will increase his value playing next to a player like Eichel.
- TheSabresTaco



Skinner would be better with Eichel, no doubt. The question is whether his one-dimensional goal scoring is worth O'Reilly who can play in any situation.

I think if Botterill thought that Skinner for ROR was a good deal, it would already be done though.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:42 PM ET
T.....................H..........................I.........................S



I mean he's no Brayden McNabb but c'mon.

- JVince11


True, Brayden McNabb never gave up on his team before the season started when he was supposed to be a leader.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:42 PM ET
People on this blog say ROR stinks and his attitude is bad and he's overpaid but yet they throw out all these ridiculous trade offers for the other teams best players.
- SABRES 89

I feel like I am stuck in leaf nation right now


it's kaberle part II
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:43 PM ET
Your attitude would suck too if you were on a team of losers every year, that's the going rate for a player like him. Moving him and putting Casey as 2nd line Center is a bad idea, kid isn't ready yet. However, there is more to the story.................
- SABRES 89


I just don't buy this. ROR admitted that even before the season started he didn't feel up to playing hockey.

He is part of the problem, a big part of it.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:43 PM ET
Also forgetting the fact that O’Reilly has cement skates as it is now. I give him two-three more years tops before he becomes Chris Drury NYR edition and a team can’t buy him out due to the structure of his contract.
- Pegullaville


ROR literally JUST turned 27 a few months ago.

Drury was 31 when he went to NYR and put up 146 pts in his 1st 3 years there. Then injuries ended his career his 4th year.

Simmer donna
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 18 @ 2:43 PM ET
I feel like I am stuck in leaf nation right now


it's kaberle part II

- homiedclown



Underrated player imo
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
However, there is more to the story.................
- SABRES 89

tease
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:45 PM ET
Underrated player imo
- jcragcrumple

agreed but leaf fans treated him like crap when he was a leaf


then thought he was booby orr when it came time to trade him
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
ROR literally JUST turned 27 a few months ago.

Drury was 31 when he went to NYR and put up 146 pts in his 1st 3 years there. Then injuries ended his career his 4th year.

Simmer donna

- JVince11



He's an old 27, which is basically 32

Skinner is a young 26, which is basically a prime 23

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
I just don't buy this. ROR admitted that even before the season started he didn't feel up to playing hockey.

He is part of the problem, a big part of it.

- ImThatGuy

probably a deal in place once the sabres pay his july 1st bonus
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
True, Brayden McNabb never gave up on his team before the season started when he was supposed to be a leader.
- ImThatGuy




homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
He's an old 27, which is basically 32

Skinner is a young 26, which is basically a prime 23

- jcragcrumple

both beat the goalie more then max domi last year

but so did gus
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:47 PM ET
e-rod walked into botts office, slammed the door and said trade this bum

I will work all summer long on faceoffs


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:48 PM ET
Your attitude would suck too if you were on a team of losers every year, that's the going rate for a player like him. Moving him and putting Casey as 2nd line Center is a bad idea, kid isn't ready yet. However, there is more to the story.................
- SABRES 89


I feel like I've been in the minority on here that continuously pines for a defensive minded center to come in here to protect CM. It needs to happen if (when) he is traded. CM will not be able to handle full-time 2C duties, along with dzone play, pk and faceoffs.
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