But not the injury prone Trouba at the rumors of likely $7M annually, in exchange for Brady Skjei as just one piece going to the Jets. One year ago, we both would not have made that move, just as Gorton wouldn't do either. Let's see if under Quinn, if Skjei can return to at least being the Brady Skjei of two seasons ago.
There are too many uncertainties with Trouba as to where he really wants to play, and on how much & long a term he really wants, except for that $7M rumor that was circulated in Winnipeg.
- RangerSaver

yeah I think anything is possible, but I don't think Skjei is going to get traded

we'll hear every rumor imaginable this week, but I think game 1 in October Skjei is still a NYR, I'd bet on it

But not the injury prone Trouba at the rumors of likely $7M annually, in exchange for Brady Skjei as just one piece going to the Jets. One year ago, we both would not have made that move, just as Gorton wouldn't do so either. Let's see if under Quinn, if Skjei can return to at least being the Brady Skjei of two seasons ago.
There are too many uncertainties with Trouba as to where he really wants to play, and on how much & long a term he really wants, except for that annual $7M salary rumor that was circulated in Winnipeg.
- RangerSaver

Wouldn't you also demand more than you're worth if you were doomed to live in the desolate tundra wasteland known as Winnipeg?

Wouldn't you also demand more than you're worth if you were doomed to live in the desolate tundra wasteland known as Winnipeg?
- jmatchett383

cant argue with you there

When the Rangers sought to acquire Trouba last June, the talks ended due to them not willing to include the LH shooting, Skjei, who Winnipeg had demanded as one return piece, to fill their need then on the left side of their back line.
Trouba had only 3 Goals & 21 Assists last season in about 22:00 average TOI in 55 games played, with rumors that he may be seeking $7M annually on his next contract. We were worried a year ago on what McDonagh's price would be after the 2018/19 season. What would Carlson and Karlsson each be worth then in comparison as d'men to the nearly annually injury prone, Trouba, in having played in over 65 games in just one of his 5 NHL seasons?

In 2016/17, Skjei in 80 games had 5 Goals & 34 Assists, & was a (+11).
In 2017/18, Skjei in 82 games had 4 Goals & 21 Assists, & was a (-27).

But that +/- drop of a (-38) difference in one season was by far not just Skjei's fault. How about other reasons contributing just on their back line alone:
*Shatty only being able to play 46 games, but doing so with a torn meniscus.
*Smith's poor season prior to being demoted.
*The deadline trades of Holden and their 8 years, #1 d'man in McDonagh.

That all applied greater pressure on Skjei last season to be the back line go to leader under a lost coaching staff, due in part to their injuries. That's why a developmental type head coach in Quinn was brought in to properly develop better and faster their youngsters like a Brady Skjei. So I again would not part with Skjei as just one piece in a deal specifically to acquire Trouba, and want to see if he can again be at least the Brady Skjei of two seasons ago under Quinn.
- RangerSaver

Nobody knows if Trouba was even available last season... saying Rangers refused because they didn’t want to trade Skjei is based completely on rumors. As far as Trouba missing games, he had a concussion last season, and didn’t miss any games the year before to injury... He held out to start season, which is reason his name is in rumor mill now... most think signing him will be a problem again

yeah I think anything is possible, but I don't think Skjei is going to get traded

we'll hear every rumor imaginable this week, but I think game 1 in October Skjei is still a NYR, I'd bet on it
- jimbro83

I also think that Skjei will remain a Ranger, barring him being part of a package deal to move up higher in the 1st Round, or for some top RH d'man or RH sniper, with Kovy looking as if he may be out of their picture now.
On another note, Jim, how about rather than pursuing Hagelin for primarily speed and the penalty kill/defensive skills, (as per Brooks), we try to re-sign the same in Grabner, as I wrote why earlier? I'm kind of shocked that Brooks even suggested possibly acquiring Hagelin's $4M if a "sweetener" would be added by the Penguins, without ever considering a reunion of the like in Grabner, the better of the two currently offensively speaking by far.

yeah I think anything is possible, but I don't think Skjei is going to get traded

we'll hear every rumor imaginable this week, but I think game 1 in October Skjei is still a NYR, I'd bet on it
- jimbro83

I’m not lobbying to trade Skjei, but yeah, anything is possible. Again, we’re pretty deep on left side with prospects ( Day, Lindgren, Hajek,Rykov, Gilmour, Cawley). Right side? Pionk and DeAngelo are pretty much all we have behind Shatty and Kampfer

Wouldn't you also demand more than you're worth if you were doomed to live in the desolate tundra wasteland known as Winnipeg?
- jmatchett383

Yes, that would be most certainly a consideration, especially for a U.S. born player. But I was only speaking in terms of what the "Winnipeg Free Press" was reporting, in that no one really knows where Trouba really wants to play, (in Canada or the U.S.), and for how much in dollars and term, remembering also the difference in the Canadian vs. the U.S. dollar value.

Yes, that would be most certainly a consideration, especially for a U.S. born player. But I was only speaking in terms of what the "Winnipeg Free Press" was reporting, in that no one really knows where Trouba really wants to play, (in Canada or the U.S.), and for how much in dollars and term, remembering also the difference in the Canadian vs. the U.S. dollar value.
- RangerSaver

He’s only 24 and I agree I don’t think he wants to commit long term, but if not his next contract he’ll be UFA. Jets had a good year, but they have a bunch of guys to sign this year, including their #1 goalie. 3 of their top 5 scorers are In last year of their contracts. Rangers should consider getting him to sign an offer sheet. Will be hard for Jets to match and will only cost us a 1sr,2nd, and 3rd... considering all the picks we have and he’s young, would Definately be worth it

Nobody knows if Trouba was even available last season... saying Rangers refused because they didn’t want to trade Skjei is based completely on rumors. As far as Trouba missing games, he had a concussion last season, and didn’t miss any games the year before to injury... He held out to start season, which is reason his name is in rumor mill now... most think signing him will be a problem again
- junaka3

Trouba has only played in more than 65 games in just one of his five NHL seasons, due to various injuries. He did hold out one season in missing some games, until a bridge deal was agreed upon I believe. But he was most certainly made available last off season, with the Rangers being the Jets primary target in wanting the also young, but LH shooting, Skjei for the left side of their back line. But the Rangers would not trade Skjei, which broke down the talks between the two teams.
At one early point last off season, the Jets also had interest in acquiring Raanta prior to them signing Mason to be their likely #1 goalie at the start of last season. But the Rangers would not trade Raanta to them, in knowing that the Coyotes were willing to pick up the entire contract of Stepan, if Raanta was also included in that trade, which later took place last June 23rd in exchange for DeAngelo and that 2017 Coyotes 1st Round pick.

I don't understand all the "trade Skjei" talk, he's a piece to build around, why are we casting him off so soon?

A lot of nonsense in there.

Edmonton isn't trading Drai, not even for double the value proposed here.

Calgary is going to get a hell of a lot more than a 3C and a developing D man if they trade Hamilton. Throw in the #8 pick and you are getting warmer.

The Pens aren't paying anyone to take Hagelin. They could end up moving him as part of a bigger trade, but his game is way more than just stats.

I don't understand all the "trade Skjei" talk, he's a piece to build around, why are we casting him off so soon?
- KreiderBomb

I agree, and can't understand why due to the disaster that was this past Rangers season, why anyone would be upset with Skjei's inconsistent play of 2017/18, when alone, their entire d'man crew was either out or playing injured (Shatty in key), playing very poorly (Smith in key), or at the deadline, two every game players in key (McDonagh & Holden) were traded, leaving greater pressure on Skjei throughout the season, to be their go to leader both ways. That while under the guidance of a coaching staff that had its issues all season long, necessitating a change for a new type of regime.

I love reading Larry Brooks, but he never talks about playing goalie when he was younger or the time he shot down the country music singer.

A lot of nonsense in there.

Edmonton isn't trading Drai, not even for double the value proposed here.

Calgary is going to get a hell of a lot more than a 3C and a developing D man if they trade Hamilton. Throw in the #8 pick and you are getting warmer.

The Pens aren't paying anyone to take Hagelin. They could end up moving him as part of a bigger trade, but his game is way more than just stats.
- MacPatty

and you hate the Rangers, so thank you for all your impartial opinions here

I don't understand all the "trade Skjei" talk, he's a piece to build around, why are we casting him off so soon?
- KreiderBomb

Because the Rangers are stupid. But I'm here for it. Burn it all to the ground.

A lot of nonsense in there.

Edmonton isn't trading Drai, not even for double the value proposed here.

Calgary is going to get a hell of a lot more than a 3C and a developing D man if they trade Hamilton. Throw in the #8 pick and you are getting warmer.

The Pens aren't paying anyone to take Hagelin. They could end up moving him as part of a bigger trade, but his game is way more than just stats.
- MacPatty

If you want the 8th overall pick. Talk to Chicago, considering they own it.

Trouba has only played in more than 65 games in just one of his five NHL seasons, due to various injuries. He did hold out one season in missing some games, until a bridge deal was agreed upon I believe. But he was most certainly made available last off season, with the Rangers being the Jets primary target in wanting the also young, but LH shooting, Skjei for the left side of their back line. But the Rangers would not trade Skjei, which broke down the talks between the two teams.
At one early point last off season, the Jets also had interest in acquiring Raanta prior to them signing Mason to be their likely #1 goalie at the start of last season. But the Rangers would not trade Raanta to them, in knowing that the Coyotes were willing to pick up the entire contract of Stepan, if Raanta was also included in that trade, which later took place last June 23rd in exchange for DeAngelo and that 2017 Coyotes 1st Round pick.
- RangerSaver

Again, you are making statements like they are facts. All rumors that any fan can speculate on given the circumstances. Trouba held out for over 22 games 2 seasons ago. That’s a 1/4 of the season. Part of the reason was he was basically the 3rd pair right D behind Buff and Myers. Rumors started then, and ramped up in offseason. Obviously they where deep on right side and common sense dictated that they would want a left dman. They signed Kulikov. They signed Trouba and now we’re back to him being rfa again.

Again, you are making statements like they are facts. All rumors that any fan can speculate on given the circumstances. Trouba held out for over 22 games 2 seasons ago. That’s a 1/4 of the season. Part of the reason was he was basically the 3rd pair right D behind Buff and Myers. Rumors started then, and ramped up in offseason. Obviously they where deep on right side and common sense dictated that they would want a left dman. They signed Kulikov. They signed Trouba and now we’re back to him being rfa again.
- junaka3

Trouba has only played in more than 65 games in just one of his five NHL seasons, due to various injuries. He did hold out one season in missing some games, until a bridge deal was agreed upon I believe. But he was most certainly made available last off season, with the Rangers being the Jets primary target in wanting the also young, but LH shooting, Skjei for the left side of their back line. But the Rangers would not trade Skjei, which broke down the talks between the two teams.
At one early point last off season, the Jets also had interest in acquiring Raanta prior to them signing Mason to be their likely #1 goalie at the start of last season. But the Rangers would not trade Raanta to them, in knowing that the Coyotes were willing to pick up the entire contract of Stepan, if Raanta was also included in that trade, which later took place last June 23rd in exchange for DeAngelo and that 2017 Coyotes 1st Round pick.
- RangerSaver

Trouba is same age as Skjei, yet has already played in 5 seasons. How many games do most 19/20 year olds play? Trouba played in 65 games both his 1st 2 years. That’s a lot for a kid. His 3rd year, 81. 4th year he held out and last season was only Year he had shortened season due to injury. Stop making an argument that he’s injury prone

You just wonder whether Trouba is one of those guys that is always a part of fan trade speculation but will never get traded. It seems like I have been hearing his name in trade speculation for years.

I just think they move Myers over Trouba.

You just wonder whether Trouba is one of those guys that is always a part of fan trade speculation but will never get traded. It seems like I have been hearing his name in trade speculation for years.

I just think they move Myers over Trouba.
- Pete V

I just can't wait for Friday and then July 1st so the speculation can end.

and you hate the Rangers, so thank you for all your impartial opinions here
- jimbro83

Hayes is a stupid 3C, but Hagelin is way more than his stats.

I just can't wait for Friday and then July 1st so the speculation can end.
- JRR1285

The speculation is definitely part of the fun, but we have definitely been doing it for too long.

The speculation is definitely part of the fun, but we have definitely been doing it for too long.
- Pete V

I agree completely.

Hayes is a stupid 3C, but Hagelin is way more than his stats.
- mdw7413