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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:26 PM ET
(frank) them. Make them pay Nurse over 6 million. Or whatever the 2nd round compensation is.
- TheSabresTaco


It’s just over 4mil
So that’s no big deal
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 12 @ 12:26 PM ET
When have you ever seen such two young guys paired together though? No team does that? They always stagger that. OEL, Dougie, Ekblad, Ghost, Parayko, etc. They got paired with a more "vet" type guy on a 2nd line then molded to 1st line or that borderline 1/2 lines that I covet where the talent is equal on both top pairings.
- JVince11


Not a lot of teams have had that issue though, where the two youngest D are the best. I'd probably still stagger them for the first few months put one with Scandella and the other with...Bogo...cringe..., but I would want to start developing that chemistry as quickly as possible.

Can't seem to find the info, but at what age did Duncan Keith and Brent Seabrook take over the top pairing in Chicago? I know they were together for the SC win in 09, but not sure how much before. That would be early 20s for both, but thought they'd been together for a couple years. Dahlin/Hani would still be younger, but just a thought.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 12 @ 12:28 PM ET
I wonder if bringing in Enstrom for a year or 2 might be a good idea for Dahlin
- mattmoulson


He's another lefty, so Dahlin would shift right.

I know he plays both sides, but I have to think they would initially play him on the left where he played for Frölunda. It seems like a lot to play him on his off side as a rookie. That might be throwing him into the fire a bit quick.

If they moved McCabe or Scandella, I would have interest in Enstrom tho
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Jun 12 @ 12:28 PM ET
I would look into signing Carlson, doubt he’d want to come here but he would be great to pair with Dahlin, help him get acclimated as a fellow Swede, veteran dman, and he has the winning experience from the cup last year.
- arousedpanda


Isn't Carlson American?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:28 PM ET
That deal makes no sense. We'd have 5 LHD. If they want to talk Faulk (they don't) then that's different
- jcragcrumple


Just bc Faulk is RH,
doesn’t mean he’s a good fit

He’s bad defensively,
and we already have our PP QBs in Ristolainen, and now Dahlin, for each of our units
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 12 @ 12:30 PM ET
Isn't Carlson American?
- Sabres1523


Yup, another Mass. product I believe.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 12 @ 12:30 PM ET
Just bc Faulk is RH,
doesn’t mean he’s a good fit

He’s bad defensively,
and we already have our PP QBs in Ristolainen, and now Dahlin, for each of our units

- jdfitz77


It's a worse fit to have Dahlin, Hanifin, Scandella, Mccabe, Guhle and Beaulieu as LHD, and Risto, Bogo and Nelson on the right.

If you're trading for a player, it should be a perfect fit, not a fit you have to "make work."

Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 12 @ 12:31 PM ET
Dreger said again this morning:

"Buffalo with big interest in Hanifan and Canes have mutual interest in ROR."

I wouldn't do it 1 for 1 that's for sure.

- JVince11


Why not? Hanifan is still an elite prospect. If anything I don't think carolina would do that one for one.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 12 @ 12:32 PM ET
Isn't Carlson American?
- Sabres1523


Yes that world jrs was legendary
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:37 PM ET
FWIW I think Wahlstrom is going to be one of the best of this draft. I like that he was targeted, but I simply don't believe that RoR will get a return of two quality prospects and a top10 pick.

Also I like Goldobin and would target him in another trade if I could.

- RhinoFan


1 of the prospects has a 2nd line ceiling,
the other a 3rd line ceiling
These guys are “b” level prospects

And i did say to send one of our “b” level guys like Smith back if necessary
I feel like we could add whatever part(s) necessary to make it happen
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 12 @ 12:38 PM ET
If your getting Hanifan I’m getting the felling the Sabres might want Dahlin on right he does play both sides so then you can have top pair of hanifan- Dahlin

And trade Ristolainen for a really good winger

- gerbe75pts


But he sucks and not as good as Klefbom, how in God's name can he get "a really good winger?" You and many others talk out of both sides of your mouths or just want new toys.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 12 @ 12:39 PM ET
But he sucks and not as good as Klefbom, how in God's name can he get "a really good winger?" You and many others talk out of both sides of your mouths or just want new toys.
- GilPerreault11


So we're trading for Hanifin, and then trading risto for a winger.

So your best RHD is.....

Wait for it.

Zach Bogosian
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 12 @ 12:42 PM ET
Petan Is available buffalo should be all over this he would cost a 4th

This would be huge if they could get him
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 12 @ 12:44 PM ET
you don't trade him without a contingency plan. Botts feels extremely strongly about proper development. He knows CM is not ready for full time 2C spot. If ROR is traded, I will eat dog poop if a center of top 9 caliber is not brought back before the start of next season.
- TheSabresTaco


meh,
why trade now, this season...
1- ROR's value isn't going down over the next season, and
2- we won't be contending in 2018-19 anyway...

So, why take on all the risk this season when they can use the year to truly evaluate:
a) Miitts to see if he can handle 2C duties in 2019-2020
b) Asplund in the AHL to see if he can step-up to the NHL in 2019-2020
Then make the smart move next offseason when they should be ready to get into the playoffs and can better target what they need.

making a move to make a move at this point just doesn't amke sense to me for the above reasons.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:44 PM ET
It's a worse fit to have Dahlin, Hanifin, Scandella, Mccabe, Guhle and Beaulieu as LHD, and Risto, Bogo and Nelson on the right.

If you're trading for a player, it should be a perfect fit, not a fit you have to "make work."

- jcragcrumple


I didn’t say bringing in another LH guy was a good idea
All i said was that Faulk is a bad one as well
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 12 @ 12:47 PM ET

Bob McKenzie on TSN690 says he expects Jack Johnson to get in the neighbourhood of 6M per year, give or take a million. Expects the Canadiens to be interested.


gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 12 @ 12:49 PM ET
So we're trading for Hanifin, and then trading risto for a winger.

So your best RHD is.....

Wait for it.

Zach Bogosian

- jcragcrumple


The best RHD would be Dahlin I'm sure that's what the sabres are thinking
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:51 PM ET
Petan Is available buffalo should be all over this he would cost a 4th

This would be huge if they could get him

- gerbe75pts


I’d do it for a 4th, but not any more than that
He’s only been “ok” in the AHL
I know that his size hurts him there,
maybe more than it would in the NHL
But he’s not a top level prospect

Where would u see him fitting in here eventually?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 12 @ 12:51 PM ET
stuff
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 12 @ 12:52 PM ET
The best RHD would be Dahlin I'm sure that's what the sabres are thinking
- gerbe75pts

thanks coach
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:52 PM ET
Bob McKenzie on TSN690 says he expects Jack Johnson to get in the neighbourhood of 6M per year, give or take a million. Expects the Canadiens to be interested
- gerbe75pts


Another overrated defenseman i want no part of
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 12 @ 12:52 PM ET
The best RHD would be Dahlin I'm sure that's what the sabres are thinking
- gerbe75pts


What about the fact that in his professional league caeer, not tournaments, he plays the left? You want to throw that adjustment onto him while he's adjusting to the rink size, not to mention all of the off-ice adjustments?

"Hey, kid, you're now the number 1 Dman AND the number 1 RD"

Good luck
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 12 @ 12:53 PM ET
Our Nylander has done nothing but struggle
While he still has a high ceiling,
he doesn’t have anywhere near the trade value to get pick #7 imo

Also..... Wahlstrom > Tkachuk
At least as a pure scorer
No reason to move up from 7 unless we can get to 3 for Zadina
And even then,
might cost us more than it’s worth
Wahlstrom is a sniper
We’d be set with Jack’s LW if we can get him

- jdfitz77


We might already be set. Oloffson is a sniper, and with Eichel and Reinhart's ability to control the puck and make tape-to-tape passes, this kid could really put up some goals. Oloffson-Eichel-Reinhart could be a deadly line.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 12 @ 12:54 PM ET
meh,
why trade now, this season...
1- ROR's value isn't going down over the next season, and
2- we won't be contending in 2018-19 anyway...

So, why take on all the risk this season when they can use the year to truly evaluate:
a) Miitts to see if he can handle 2C duties in 2019-2020
b) Asplund in the AHL to see if he can step-up to the NHL in 2019-2020
Then make the smart move next offseason when they should be ready to get into the playoffs and can better target what they need.

making a move to make a move at this point just doesn't amke sense to me for the above reasons.

- IonSabres


Because RoR's value could go down and it's easy to acquire a defensive 3C to shelter Mitts and allow guys to develop in Rochester.

To me, trading RoR is about 3+ years out. If you don't see him here, you consider all options right now.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 12 @ 12:59 PM ET
What about the fact that in his professional league caeer, not tournaments, he plays the left? You want to throw that adjustment onto him while he's adjusting to the rink size, not to mention all of the off-ice adjustments?

"Hey, kid, you're now the number 1 Dman AND the number 1 RD"

Good luck

- jcragcrumple


He's coach said he plays right so theres that and they had many people on wgr that said he plays both and no weaknesses


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