Someone call Ron Hextall and tell him to trade one of Shayne Gostisbehere or Ivan Provorov because they're both scoring too much. One is taking away too much from the other.

Oh boy, you guys have a way bigger obsession with Schenn than I do because...Wow!

There is no counter points to be made here. We once had a forward core with names such as Richards, Carter, Briere, Gagne, Hartnell, Knuble and Lupul. All of which scored 20 plus goals between the 7 players. MJL (the villain) makes a logical point that we would be a deeper team with Schenn but all of you smart people believe Schenn would have taken away from other player's production? Just...Wow.

Some of the crap I read on this page really prooves I'm alone in this world because what I'm reading is asinine. Claude Giroux finally shows up after four down seasons and that's only because Ron Hextall traded Brayden Schenn.

Now that's a hot take.
- SuperSchennBros

Except the main point of the original argument (that i believe you presented last offseason lol) was: that Schenn's production would not be made up or replaced by current Flyers on our roster. When in reality, it was. It was never about the Flyers would be deeper or not with or without schenn; MJL simply brought that out of nowhere since he was proven wrong about the production totals from our forwards (not named Weal, Weise and Lindblom) exceeding Schenn's totals. Don't credit him a logical point when he refused to accept simple math and goal totals. Claude Giroux was never the main focus, he was one of the collective members to exemplify Schenn's 55 points being made up. No one ever said Giroux finally showed up because of Schenn being traded; just that our whole roster's offensive success may have looked different (mainly Couts) had Schenn stayed and Giroux ultimately stayed at Center.

Except the main point of the original argument (that i believe you presented last offseason lol) was: that Schenn's production would not be made up or replaced by current Flyers on our roster. When in reality, it was. It was never about the Flyers would be deeper or not with or without schenn; MJL simply brought that out of nowhere since he was proven wrong about the production totals from our forwards (not named Weal, Weise and Lindblom) exceeding Schenn's totals. Don't credit him a logical point when he refused to accept simple math and goal totals. Claude Giroux was never the main focus, he was one of the collective members to exemplify Schenn's 55 points being made up. No one ever said Giroux finally showed up because of Schenn being traded; just that our whole roster's offensive success may have looked different (mainly Couts) had Schenn stayed and Giroux ultimately stayed at Center.
- arichardson22

MJL is correct though.

The Couturier/Giroux line carried this team most nights, while the other lines may have chipped in here and there but for the most part, the other lines dragged ass for probably half the season.

In fact, you are all only proving how good Schenn was for us if 2-3 players have to make up for one player being traded.

Schenn would have given them a better top 6.......Also, Schenn's production was collectively replaced.....not really difficult to comprehend

So what I'm reading is, it takes Nolan Patrick and Travis Konecny both to make up Brayden Schenn's play and zero consideration that Schenn probably could have improved their production had he played with either one of those young players.

Much successful season. I'm glad we made the playoffs on the last day against a weak Rangers team.

Someone please play the "Everything is Awesome" lego movie song.

So what I'm reading is, it takes Nolan Patrick and Travis Konecny both to make up Brayden Schenn's play and zero consideration that Schenn probably could have improved their production had he played with either one of those young players.

Much successful season. I'm glad we made the playoffs on the last day against a weak Rangers team.

Someone please play the "Everything is Awesome" lego movie song.
- SuperSchennBros

Somebody is triggered

She looks like a nutjob, just sayin'
- MBFlyerfan

Photo cut off just a few inches too soon. Sigh.

lol

Holy moley

Despite all the press clippings. This could be a golden opportunity to snag Hoffman. Just 2 years left on a reasonable deal and would bring much needed depth to that left side. Obviously homework needs to get done but Hexy needs to be all over this

Except the main point of the original argument (that i believe you presented last offseason lol) was: that Schenn's production would not be made up or replaced by current Flyers on our roster. When in reality, it was. It was never about the Flyers would be deeper or not with or without schenn; MJL simply brought that out of nowhere since he was proven wrong about the production totals from our forwards (not named Weal, Weise and Lindblom) exceeding Schenn's totals. Don't credit him a logical point when he refused to accept simple math and goal totals. Claude Giroux was never the main focus, he was one of the collective members to exemplify Schenn's 55 points being made up. No one ever said Giroux finally showed up because of Schenn being traded; just that our whole roster's offensive success may have looked different (mainly Couts) had Schenn stayed and Giroux ultimately stayed at Center.
- arichardson22

i do agree, I was actaully a fan of the trade last season, I thought someone from the core had to go.

MJL is correct though.

The Couturier/Giroux line carried this team most nights, while the other lines may have chipped in here and there but for the most part, the other lines dragged ass for probably half the season.

In fact, you are all only proving how good Schenn was for us if 2-3 players have to make up for one player being traded.
- SuperSchennBros

while I agree that the bottom six drag ass, Jake played a good bit of the season on the 2nd and had a career year.

Gudas + 2nd for Hoffman?

Photo cut off just a few inches too soon. Sigh.
- flyer_nutter

Yup. She looks wild

I respectfully disagree. Not only were his points replaced, he wasn't even missed.
- Scoob

When you have Dale Weise playing a significant number of games in your top 9, a player of Schenn's caliber was missed. That's indisputable.

But not Konecny for some reason.
- MBFlyerfan

Weal, Weise, and Raffl are the players that Schenn would be a significant upgrade over and are the players that filled the ice time that would've gone to Schenn if he was still here. If Schenn was not traded both Konecny and Schenn would've seen significant ice time on a scoring line. So how does Konecny replace Schenn?

Again I never said it didn’t make them weaker, but his points were replaced by better efforts from other players.
- Ftown19125

That's flawed logic.

Except the main point of the original argument (that i believe you presented last offseason lol) was: that Schenn's production would not be made up or replaced by current Flyers on our roster. When in reality, it was. It was never about the Flyers would be deeper or not with or without schenn; MJL simply brought that out of nowhere since he was proven wrong about the production totals from our forwards (not named Weal, Weise and Lindblom) exceeding Schenn's totals. Don't credit him a logical point when he refused to accept simple math and goal totals. Claude Giroux was never the main focus, he was one of the collective members to exemplify Schenn's 55 points being made up. No one ever said Giroux finally showed up because of Schenn being traded; just that our whole roster's offensive success may have looked different (mainly Couts) had Schenn stayed and Giroux ultimately stayed at Center.
- arichardson22

You continue to be wrong time and time again. I did not bring that up out of no where. When this was being discussed previously, I had the same exact viewpoint. It's not about simple math and looking at the fact that the scored more goals than the previous season. How you can look at Claude Giroux and some of his point totals and say that went towards replacing Schenn's output is mind boggling. Giroux couldn't have had the same great season if Schenn was in the lineup?
Now looking at it speculating would Couturier have moved up to play center with Giroux and Giroux moved to the Wing if Schenn was still here? I don't know. That's a reasonable point. I personally think it would've still happened. That's speculation though. It is not unreasonable to look at the lineup and see a definite spot for a player of Schenn's ability and think that the Flyers could've and probably would've been more productive. The players who effectively replaced Schenn did not effectively replace him. End of story. No amount of your personal issue and gripe will change that.

just catching up, I have to say the first disagreement on this board of the off-season makes me happy. There was never a question MJL would be in the middle of it, we needed a little intensity...



- wcorvette

Unless you're one of the trolls of the site, if you call me out, expect a rebuttal.

So what I'm reading is, it takes Nolan Patrick and Travis Konecny both to make up Brayden Schenn's play and zero consideration that Schenn probably could have improved their production had he played with either one of those young players.

Much successful season. I'm glad we made the playoffs on the last day against a weak Rangers team.

Someone please play the "Everything is Awesome" lego movie song.
- SuperSchennBros

It's OK.

Brayden is still super handsome!

Man am I glad Brayden Schenn was traded. He was the road block that kept Giroux and Couturier from producing.

Why are we arguing about Schenn when Frost hasn't played a second of NHL (or AHL) hockey and the 2nd pick hasn't even been made yet? Asinine.

At this point, isn't it just a little ridiculous to still be arguing about the Schenn trade?

All I know is that the Flyers scored more goals and made the playoffs without him, while the Blues missed the playoffs with him. You can say whatever else you want, but those are the facts.

Why are we arguing about Schenn when Frost hasn't played a second of NHL (or AHL) hockey and the 2nd pick hasn't even been made yet? Asinine.
- hereticpride

This too.

You continue to be wrong time and time again. I did not bring that up out of no where. When this was being discussed previously, I had the same exact viewpoint. It's not about simple math and looking at the fact that the scored more goals than the previous season. How you can look at Claude Giroux and some of his point totals and say that went towards replacing Schenn's output is mind boggling. Giroux couldn't have had the same great season if Schenn was in the lineup?
Now looking at it speculating would Couturier have moved up to play center with Giroux and Giroux moved to the Wing if Schenn was still here? I don't know. That's a reasonable point. I personally think it would've still happened. That's speculation though. It is not unreasonable to look at the lineup and see a definite spot for a player of Schenn's ability and think that the Flyers could've and probably would've been more productive. The players who effectively replaced Schenn did not effectively replace him. End of story. No amount of your personal issue and gripe will change that.
- MJL

Literally everything you said yesterday was pure speculation IF Schenn was on the roster lol. And the year he WOULD have had. I countered your dumbass speculation with further speculation. Christ it’s like you and SchennBlower don’t read. No one ever said this team wouldn’t be deeper with Schenn on the roster. It was never about specific x player replacing Schenn it was the collective offensive production for the 5th time. Which by the way again, the Flyers accomplished. Again, you two can’t read or simply have the reading comprehension of a two year old. Personal issues lol? Let’s just ignore your personal issue to refuse to admit when you’re wrong which SEVERAL people pointed out yesterday with your dumbass denial of the Flyers scoring more goals than last season without your precious Brayden Schenn. You are a true Chode. You and SuperSchennBlower deserve each other. You two pull more stuff out of each other’s asses than a rectal removal doctor.