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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 31 @ 9:38 AM ET
Would have loved to seen that
- TaxMan22


Agreed. If you score an OT series winner, then you should celebrate. But resorting to some pre-meditated dance is basically rubbing the other team's nose in it, and I would have loved to see someone bury him for it.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 31 @ 9:46 AM ET
Agreed. If you score an OT series winner, then you should celebrate. But resorting to some pre-meditated dance is basically rubbing the other team's nose in it, and I would have loved to see someone bury him for it.
- jmatchett383

Celly on every goal. Don't want to see the other team celebrate. Don't let them score.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 31 @ 9:47 AM ET


I'd offer Sheary for Del Zotto straight up to VAN.

- Rinosaur

Okay how much do I have to retain and what do I need to throw in for you to take DeKeyser?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 31 @ 9:50 AM ET
Okay how much do I have to retain and what do I need to throw in for you to take DeKeyser?
- Feds91Stammer


I went to edit and it somehow deleted my post... weird..

Well isn't 25% the max? How about DET moves DK to Vegas, we send them Rowney, they retain another 25%. This is just so WPG doesn't get DK.

EDIT: Or you throw in AA and we throw a 3rd + Simon back the other way. Deal?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 31 @ 9:57 AM ET
Celly on every goal. Don't want to see the other team celebrate. Don't let them score.
- Feds91Stammer


Fair enough on the second half.

I just don't like players who have to do some premeditated victory dance instead of spontaneously celebrating. Just like Brian Wilson when the Giants won the World Series.

You just struck out a player to win the World Series. Instead of celebrating like a normal maniac, you have to do you stupid turn back for the camera and do you pointing/crossing "signature move." Just let it (frank)ing go and live in the moment.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 31 @ 10:00 AM ET
I went to edit and it somehow deleted my post... weird..

Well isn't 25% the max? How about DET moves DK to Vegas, we send them Rowney, they retain another 25%. This is just so WPG doesn't get DK.

EDIT: Or you throw in AA and we throw a 3rd + Simon back the other way. Deal?

- Rinosaur

Max is 50% and you can only have 3 retained salaries on your books.

I can package AA and DeKeyser though
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 31 @ 10:02 AM ET
Fair enough on the second half.

I just don't like players who have to do some premeditated victory dance instead of spontaneously celebrating. Just like Brian Wilson when the Giants won the World Series.

You just struck out a player to win the World Series. Instead of celebrating like a normal maniac, you have to do you stupid turn back for the camera and do you pointing/crossing "signature move." Just let it (frank)ing go and live in the moment.

- jmatchett383

I'm all for trashing a guy for celebrating in beer league but these pros are entertainers. Let them do their thing. Doesn't matter to me either way.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 31 @ 10:03 AM ET
Max is 50% and you can only have 3 retained salaries on your books.

I can package AA and DeKeyser though

- Feds91Stammer


The Pens have one more available then. Let's do dis den...

TO PIT: DeK(25%) + AA
TO DET: Sheary, Hunwick, Simon +3rd

I figure throwing in Hunwick for two years is better than retaining 50% for four years. We getting close?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

May 31 @ 10:06 AM ET
You should probably be getting rid of Sheahan in a couple years.
- Feds91Stammer

Depends on if he looks like a 3C or not. I'm staying open-minded there, want to see how next year goes.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 31 @ 10:06 AM ET
I'm all for trashing a guy for celebrating in beer league but these pros are entertainers. Let them do their thing. Doesn't matter to me either way.
- Feds91Stammer


Yeah, I don't know why it grates on me so much, it shouldn't matter.

Like when TO celebrated on the star in Dallas and the dude from the Cowboys trucked him, it was glorious as much as I hate the Cowboys.

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 31 @ 10:13 AM ET
The Pens have one more available then. Let's do dis den...

TO PIT: DeK(25%) + AA
TO DET: Sheary, Hunwick, Simon +3rd

I figure throwing in Hunwick for two years is better than retaining 50% for four years. We getting close?

- Rinosaur

It's close. I kind of break it into 2 trades.

Hunwick and a 3rd for DeKeyser(25%) - This is 100% fair imo

Sheary and Simon for AA - I'm not so sure about (maybe another mid round type pick? idk)
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 31 @ 10:14 AM ET
Yeah, I don't know why it grates on me so much, it shouldn't matter.

Like when TO celebrated on the star in Dallas and the dude from the Cowboys trucked him, it was glorious as much as I hate the Cowboys.


- jmatchett383

The way I look at it is, I don't care if you celebrate and I also don't care if someone blows you up for celebrating. I do know if every guy celebrated in a Barry Sanders manner things would be less entertaining.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 31 @ 10:17 AM ET
The way I look at it is, I don't care if you celebrate and I also don't care if someone blows you up for celebrating. I do know if every guy celebrated in a Barry Sanders manner things would be less entertaining.
- Feds91Stammer


I don't want unemotional robots out there scoring goals/touchdowns/etc. and then going about their business without celebrating. I, personally, would prefer them to celebrate spontaneously, not with some premeditated victory dance.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 31 @ 10:20 AM ET
Depends on if he looks like a 3C or not. I'm staying open-minded there, want to see how next year goes.
- Tojo.

He probably has 2-3 more NHL caliber seasons in him is my point.
TaxMan22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: North of the Mason Dixon Line, PA
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 31 @ 10:20 AM ET
Okay how much do I have to retain and what do I need to throw in for you to take DeKeyser?
- Feds91Stammer

Maybe DeKeyser just needs a change of scenery?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 31 @ 10:20 AM ET
It's close. I kind of break it into 2 trades.

Hunwick and a 3rd for DeKeyser(25%) - This is 100% fair imo

Sheary and Simon for AA - I'm not so sure about (maybe another mid round type pick? idk)

- Feds91Stammer


I'd go another mid-rounder.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 31 @ 10:20 AM ET
I don't want unemotional robots out there scoring goals/touchdowns/etc. and then going about their business without celebrating. I, personally, would prefer them to celebrate spontaneously, not with some premeditated victory dance.
- jmatchett383

I get what you're saying. I think the kids love the trademark type moves.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 31 @ 10:21 AM ET
I'd go another mid-rounder.
- Rinosaur

Then I can flip Sheary with Nyquist to AZ in a deal for Domi
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 31 @ 10:22 AM ET
Maybe DeKeyser just needs a change of scenery?
- TaxMan22

He needs to be in a 4-6 type role. I would probably label his game as that of a poor mans Dumoulin.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

May 31 @ 10:24 AM ET
He probably has 2-3 more NHL caliber seasons in him is my point.
- Feds91Stammer

That seems a little quick at his age. But I'd only make his next contract 2-3 years anyways.
TaxMan22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: North of the Mason Dixon Line, PA
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 31 @ 10:26 AM ET
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 31 @ 10:27 AM ET
That seems a little quick at his age. But I'd only make his next contract 2-3 uears anyways.
- Tojo.

If he signs a 3 year deal he would be 29 going on 30 to start the next season at the end of his contract. A very good age to walk away from most players especially bottom 6ers.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 31 @ 10:30 AM ET
Wasn't sure if this would work or not
- TaxMan22


...wtf???
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

May 31 @ 12:42 PM ET
Nice article yesterday about Bellerive from Marshall. Where is this kid on the Pen's admittedly thin prospect rankings already? Top 5? Top 3?

I think he and Sheahan are battling for the 3C job in a couple years.

- Tojo.


I don't think any sites rank the Penguins prospects anymore like Hockey's Future used to.

My own personal opinion is 1. Sprong 2. Bellerive 3. Jarry

The damn transfer rules really suck in this case, would love to see Bellerive get some time in WBS. He killed it at camp last year too. Has the potential to be Brayden Point.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

May 31 @ 12:46 PM ET
It's close. I kind of break it into 2 trades.

Hunwick and a 3rd for DeKeyser(25%) - This is 100% fair imo

Sheary and Simon for AA - I'm not so sure about (maybe another mid round type pick? idk)

- Feds91Stammer


Value seems about right. Dekeyser scares me with the length of contract... eventually the Pens will bring on a project who wont magically reach their potential haha
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