Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
May 30 @ 12:23 PM ET
Domi would be a great step forward in changing the culture surrounding the penguins. Need players like him. Sheary, Rust and Murray just strike me as little punks who feel entitled to something because they were drafted by the pens and gifted cups. If I never saw Sheary play a hockey game again it wouldn’t bother me. - Grinder47
Domi would be a great step forward in changing the culture surrounding the penguins. Need players like him. Sheary, Rust and Murray just strike me as little punks who feel entitled to something because they were drafted by the pens and gifted cups. If I never saw Sheary play a hockey game again it wouldn’t bother me. - Grinder47
Are you (frank)ign kidding me? Even by NHL standards, they are humble. Sheary wasn't drafted by the Pens, Matt Murray had to deal with 10 breakawyas a game this year, because Letang pinches at the worst possible times, have you ever heard him complain about it? And Aside from Hagelin, Bryan Rust fore checks and lays the body down for a block every chance he gets, absoutely the opposite of an entitled player.
You sir, are a blind (frank)ing idiot.
IMO, Sheary for Domi is a low risk, medium upside trade. We have an asswhap of wingers ahead of Sheary on the depth chart, and since Sullivan doesn’t want Sheary, Guentzel, Kessel, and Sprong on the same line, it may be very difficult for Sheary to play above the 4th line when everyone’s healthy.
Meanwhile, Domi is a bit younger and at 23 still could blossom when playing on a good team (Arizona has to be one of the worst on ice situations in the entire league). He might come in and not be able to play above the 4th line too, but he also may take a leap forward with us and jump some guys like Hagelin or Rust on the depth chart (at this point we know Sheary won’t). Even if Domi doesn’t jump guys on the depth chart, we’ll most certainly be shedding cap with the move.
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
May 30 @ 12:49 PM ET
IMO, Sheary for Domi is a low risk, medium upside trade. We have an asswhap of wingers ahead of Sheary on the depth chart, and since Sullivan doesn’t want Sheary, Guentzel, Kessel, and Sprong on the same line, it may be very difficult for Sheary to play above the 4th line when everyone’s healthy.
Meanwhile, Domi is a bit younger and at 23 still could blossom when playing on a good team (Arizona has to be one of the worst on ice situations in the entire league). He might come in and not be able to play above the 4th line too, but he also may take a leap forward with us and jump some guys like Hagelin or Rust on the depth chart (at this point we know Sheary won’t). Even if Domi doesn’t jump guys on the depth chart, we’ll most certainly be shedding cap with the move.
I’d do the move. - Victoro311
No way Domi is moved for Sheary without other pieces being involved.
As a coyote fan, it would be tough to watch Domi go. Tippett used him correctly in his first year putting him on a wing with DuClair and Hanzel as the center. Since then, they kept messing with him, trying him at C at times and moving up and down the line up. Breaking his hand in a fight didn't help either two seasons ago. He has never played with a true 1C (closest one was Stepan, but he is a 2C at best).
That being said, unless Kessel is part of the deal (with Pitt retaining a little salary) I would say no. We need scoring wingers, and to give up a player of his age would not be ideal. I think he can score 15-25 goals a year with the right center, but I can't lie and I would rather have Kessel now....
As a coyote fan, it would be tough to watch Domi go. Tippett used him correctly in his first year putting him on a wing with DuClair and Hanzel as the center. Since then, they kept messing with him, trying him at C at times and moving up and down the line up. Breaking his hand in a fight didn't help either two seasons ago. He has never played with a true 1C (closest one was Stepan, but he is a 2C at best).
That being said, unless Kessel is part of the deal (with Pitt retaining a little salary) I would say no. We need scoring wingers, and to give up a player of his age would not be ideal. I think he can score 15-25 goals a year with the right center, but I can't lie and I would rather have Kessel now.... - gmiel1980
How far off do you see the Yotes from contending? Does trading for Kessel really make sense, like.. when the Yotes window does open... I would think Kessel wouldn't be as lethal as he is now.
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May 30 @ 1:32 PM ET
here's my 2 cents. Pens were one of the best teams this year, don't do anything drastic, move Sprong up, and see what happens next year. Trade for a goalie if Murray is (frank)ing up again through the season.
How far off do you see the Yotes from contending? Does trading for Kessel really make sense, like.. when the Yotes window does open... I would think Kessel wouldn't be as lethal as he is now. - j.boyd919
Even with the Tocchet factor, can't see Kessel with AZ on his list of teams to go to.
This is why he deal seems unlikely, we're talking about Sheary for Domi and Arizona fans say they want Kessel. I just think age, draft position, upside, and all that make Domi too expensive to acquire.
If AZ is motivated to move him because they don't think he'll ever blossom there....maybeee a Sheary + pick/non-Sprong-prospect kind of deal can work.
Which raises the point...would either team do Sprong for Domi?
This is why he deal seems unlikely, we're talking about Sheary for Domi and Arizona fans say they want Kessel. I just think age, draft position, upside, and all that make Domi too expensive to acquire.
If AZ is motivated to move him because they don't think he'll ever blossom there....maybeee a Sheary + pick/non-Sprong-prospect kind of deal can work.
Which raises the point...would either team do Sprong for Domi? - YouMeAndDupuis9
I don't want to do that. I want to see Sprong get a real opportunity.
Are you (frank)ign kidding me? Even by NHL standards, they are humble. Sheary wasn't drafted by the Pens, Matt Murray had to deal with 10 breakawyas a game this year, because Letang pinches at the worst possible times, have you ever heard him complain about it? And Aside from Hagelin, Bryan Rust fore checks and lays the body down for a block every chance he gets, absoutely the opposite of an entitled player.
You sir, are a blind (frank)ing idiot. - joecool2931
How far off do you see the Yotes from contending? Does trading for Kessel really make sense, like.. when the Yotes window does open... I would think Kessel wouldn't be as lethal as he is now. - j.boyd919
I don't think the Coyotes are too far off. They have their number 1 goalie singed on a good deal. Their top 5 defensemen, when healthy, have the capability to be top 10. Keller I think is a star in the making, and we have some depth down the middle though we still need a 1C.
With Kessel, they would be able to give him top line minutes and pair him with Keller along with either Stepan or maybe Strome down the middle (if he keeps improving). I get it's probably a pipe dream but if we were able to land Kessel, I think that moves us up to at least competing for a wild card spot if all things break right...
