TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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he's benefiting from nobody actually watching him play imo. look at this stats or hero sharts and he looks norris caliber. see a few highlights and it only cements that. he makes more mistakes than any of the actual top guys outside of maybe subban though. - daeth
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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Max might disagree with you - TheMussel
there's a decent change im right then |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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OEL would get trashed by the media so hard if he played in toronto. He's not good defensively. - daeth
Dont forget fans
But the issue I have is what most people see as good/bad defense.
There are lot of players who are good at shot suppression...but its not something you see in the game that sticks in your mind as something someone actually did.
thats when you end up with people seeing Polak being better than Gardiner on D |
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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mitch Marner sucks Joined: 03.03.2016
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there's a decent change im right then - daeth
True |
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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Dont forget fans
But the issue I have is what most people see as good/bad defense.
There are lot of players who are good at shot suppression...but its not something you see in the game that sticks in your mind as something someone actually did.
thats when you end up with people seeing Polak being better than Gardiner on D - senstroll
on a good shift polak manages to get the puck in his own end and then mashes it off the glass and heads to the bench and leaves it to the next pairing to regain possession. absolute possession killer. people love the safe plays without thinking about how much it actually hurts the team over a whole season i guess. |
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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oel is closer to gardiner than karlsson |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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What if it is loose? - Aetherial
*makes sure it looks snug* |
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winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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Which bust har the 'abs going to pick? - TheMussel
Wait .... hold my beer
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Dont forget fans
But the issue I have is what most people see as good/bad defense.
There are lot of players who are good at shot suppression...but its not something you see in the game that sticks in your mind as something someone actually did.
thats when you end up with people seeing Polak being better than Gardiner on D - senstroll
Nobody has ever said Polak is better then Gardiner....maybe they've said he's looked better during some games...which is possible. You Gardiner protectors are weird, strange but yet sexy beasts all at the same time.
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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on a good shift polak manages to get the puck in his own end and then mashes it off the glass and heads to the bench and leaves it to the next pairing to regain possession. absolute possession killer. people love the safe plays without thinking about how much it actually hurts the team over a whole season i guess. - daeth
That's the Leaf way...not just Polak ( even though he loves it high and hard off the glass...icing he has to stay out though ) Some games it looks like the Leaf players are about to cheer when they get it over our blue line. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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High. We're surprisingly shallow on RHD. I don't know there's a trade to be made for him. We're a much worse team with him out of the lineup.
Unless Roland McKeown is ready, I guess. - BINGO!
Pesce is more of what we need. I'm hopeful that the combo of Waddell and Dundon are dumber than a bag of rocks. |
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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Peter I Island Joined: 11.18.2014
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Wait .... hold my beer
![](https://media1.giphy.com/media/urZRaT6eI1fQQ/200w.webp) - winsix
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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That's the Leaf way...not just Polak ( even though he loves it high and hard off the glass...icing he has to stay out though ) Some games it looks like the Leaf players are about to cheer when they get it over our blue line. ![:(](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/cry.gif) - Garnie
Polak clubbing it blindly |
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Leafs should add Brian Burkie as a special advisor to Dubas and co. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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High. We're surprisingly shallow on RHD. I don't know there's a trade to be made for him. We're a much worse team with him out of the lineup.
Unless Roland McKeown is ready, I guess. - BINGO!
Please explain this to Leaf fans, a lot don't understand this. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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I think it's a situation where the Canes desperately need to add offense and excitement to their lineup, and Hanifin is the most valuable asset they can afford to trade.
Nobody on the roster (except Aho) is going to give you as big of a return as you'll get for Hanifin and losing him hurts, but isn't the end of the world with Fleury and Bean behind him on the depth chart. - BINGO!
Yeah, I think Hanafin will get you back some nice pieces.
If it happens it'll be a wonky trade imo. Lots of pieces. |
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Pesce is more of what we need. I'm hopeful that the combo of Waddell and Dundon are dumber than a bag of rocks. - PatC80
there is a full 60 podcast (Craig Custance) with Paul Krepelka.
he's the new VP of hockey operations.
was a good insight into the Hurricanes situation..
seems the new GM is quite a handful.
seems as well that the organzation is a bit of a mess.
they'll make some moves for sure - basically looking for some goalscorers as a first priority. |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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there is a full 60 podcast (Craig Custance) with Paul Krepelka.
he's the new VP of hockey operations.
was a good insight into the Hurricanes situation..
seems the new GM is quite a handful.
seems as well that the organzation is a bit of a mess.
they'll make some moves for sure - basically looking for some goalscorers as a first priority. - MaximusAurelius
JVR is 100% going to the Canes..
And they win the cup.
100% |
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winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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JVR is 100% going to the Canes..
And they win the cup.
100% - Arctic_AARDVARK
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i now understand the gardiner blindness on here.
reading back a 2012 tread on here, and people are arguing with me when i say that PK Subban >> Gardiner
and it's not just 1 person.. |
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Mike Augello
Commissioner Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.25.2006
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winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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i now understand the gardiner blindness on here.
reading back a 2012 tread on here, and people are arguing with me when i say that PK Subban >> Gardiner
and it's not just 1 person.. - MaximusAurelius
Subban is very good, maybe even a top ten d-man. Has some warts though - plus he makes $9 mil for four more years, Gardiner only makes $4 million. |
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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why can't we just do kapanen for mckeown and call it a day. - Tumbleweed
I'd be very happy about it. |
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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i now understand the gardiner blindness on here.
reading back a 2012 tread on here, and people are arguing with me when i say that PK Subban >> Gardiner
and it's not just 1 person.. - MaximusAurelius
so after gardiners rookie season? i could see the argument back then. subban had his really good series vs crosby before that otherwise hadn't really separated himself from gardiner yet. |
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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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i now understand the gardiner blindness on here.
reading back a 2012 tread on here, and people are arguing with me when i say that PK Subban >> Gardiner
and it's not just 1 person.. - MaximusAurelius
link? |
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