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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 16 @ 9:50 PM ET
I say you keep Rielly and trade a forward for a #1 D.

List the #1 D you want and how you see this trade happening,

- .HOHO.

Agreed. We have an abundance of good wingers we can use that to try to improve our defense.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 16 @ 9:50 PM ET
I say you keep Rielly and trade a forward for a #1 D.

List the #1 D you want and how you see this trade happening,

- .HOHO.


You could trade a forward and keep Rielly or you could trade Rielly and keep the forward. They're both viable options, it just depends on who you're acquiring and what the other team needs.

I don't have the 30 GMs on speed dial, so we don't know who is and isn't available. But Dougie Hamilton looks to be available according to some people so he should definitely be a target.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 16 @ 9:52 PM ET
You could trade a forward and keep Rielly or you could trade Rielly and keep the forward. They're both viable options, it just depends on who you're acquiring and what the other team needs.

I don't have the 30 GMs on speed dial, so we don't know who is and isn't available. But Dougie Hamilton looks to be available according to some people so he should definitely be a target.

- Unholy_Goalie


The whole Dougie Hamilton thing is weird. Wonder if there are off-ice issues.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

May 16 @ 9:53 PM ET
I say you keep Rielly and trade a forward for a #1 D.

List the #1 D you want and how you see this trade happening,

- .HOHO.

Pietrangelo
Dumba
Nurse
Jones
Chychrun
Manson
Ekblad
Doughty


mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

May 16 @ 9:55 PM ET
Or trade Rielly plus more for an upgrade and a legit #1 D, 25 or under.
- Unholy_Goalie

Ummm...Reilly just put up 50 plus points playing 21 min a night at the age of 23. So who exactly is this legit number 1 d 25 and under you're talking about. And ps. Reilly at 23 is very comparable to Keith at 23...in fact he's better.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 16 @ 9:56 PM ET
The whole Dougie Hamilton thing is weird. Wonder if there are off-ice issues.
- PatC80


How bad could it be if it even is that? Good enough player and young enough to change to be worth the risk.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 16 @ 9:58 PM ET
Ummm...Reilly just put up 50 plus points playing 21 min a night at the age of 23. So who exactly is this legit number 1 d 25 and under you're talking about. And ps. Reilly at 23 is very comparable to Keith at 23...in fact he's better.
- mykokes


Points doesn't mean he can play defense. I'd take 10 fewer points if it meant preventing 20 more goals. Rielly isn't Keith.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 16 @ 10:00 PM ET
How bad could it be if it even is that? Good enough player and young enough to change to be worth the risk.
- Unholy_Goalie

Just seems weird. Boston gave him up for picks when they were not rebuilding and the Flames rumors have been going on since late 2016.
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

May 16 @ 10:00 PM ET
Pietrangelo Yes
Dumb No
Nurse No
Jones Yes
Chychrun No
Manson Yes
Ekblad Yes
Doughty No

- mr.sir


....


I just did those randomly...

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 16 @ 10:01 PM ET
Pietrangelo
Dumba
Nurse
Jones
Chychrun
Manson
Ekblad
Doughty

- mr.sir

Manson might be the only one that would not cost us Knee-ender
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

May 16 @ 10:03 PM ET
Pietrangelo
Dumba
Nurse
Jones
Chychrun
Manson

Ekblad
Doughty

- mr.sir



You're (frank)ed!
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 16 @ 10:03 PM ET
Just seems weird. Boston gave him up for picks when they were not rebuilding and the Flames rumors have been going on since late 2016.
- PatC80


Boston had salary cap issues, that was a big part of it.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 16 @ 10:06 PM ET
Boston had salary cap issues, that was a big part of it.
- Unholy_Goalie

I would try to pry Manson out of Anaheim. Wonder what the cost would be?
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

May 16 @ 10:06 PM ET
Points doesn't mean he can play defense. I'd take 10 fewer points if it meant preventing 20 more goals. Rielly isn't Keith.
- Unholy_Goalie

No...he isn't Keith in his prime. At least not yet.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

May 16 @ 10:08 PM ET
Points doesn't mean he can play defense. I'd take 10 fewer points if it meant preventing 20 more goals. Rielly isn't Keith.
- Unholy_Goalie

Also you didn't say who 25 and under is the dman we should be trading Reilly plus for.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 16 @ 10:09 PM ET
I would try to pry Manson out of Anaheim. Wonder what the cost would be?
- PatC80


Not a #1 D, would be like getting Pesce from Carolina. An improvement but still not the main goal.

Unless you go out and get 6 top-4 D and play them all 20 min a night evenly.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 16 @ 10:09 PM ET
No...he isn't Keith in his prime. At least not yet.
- mykokes

He could be much better defensively but he would need a strong mentor.....yes, I am talking Weber
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 16 @ 10:12 PM ET
No...he isn't Keith in his prime. At least not yet.
- mykokes


Expecting Rielly to become as good as Keith is rather optimistic to put it mildly.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

May 16 @ 10:17 PM ET
Expecting Rielly to become as good as Keith is rather optimistic to put it mildly.
- Unholy_Goalie

Why? He was a top 5 pick. He's playing big minutes on a team that finished with 100 plus points. And I saw him take over games quite a few times last year. Sometimes he tries to do too much but what else do you expect from a 23 yo. And yeah...he's now 24. (As of march). But he has developed into something pretty damn decent.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 16 @ 10:17 PM ET
Not a #1 D, would be like getting Pesce from Carolina. An improvement but still not the main goal.

Unless you go out and get 6 top-4 D and play them all 20 min a night evenly.

- Unholy_Goalie

Why not both? Pesce and Manson

Rielly-Manson
Dermott-Pesce
Hainsey-Zaitsev
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 16 @ 10:18 PM ET
Also you didn't say who 25 and under is the dman we should be trading Reilly plus for.
- mykokes


Ekblad.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 16 @ 10:19 PM ET
Why? He was a top 5 pick. He's playing big minutes on a team that finished with 100 plus points. And I saw him take over games quite a few times last year. Sometimes he tries to do too much but what else do you expect from a 23 yo
- mykokes


Defensively he's not that great or that smart. He's 24, not 23. He could still improve a lot and become better but if a player with more potential and skills is available, Rielly isn't untouchable.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 16 @ 10:19 PM ET
Why not both? Pesce and Manson

Rielly-Manson
Dermott-Pesce
Hainsey-Zaitsev

- PatC80


Hainsey is too old and Zaitsev is too poop. But it's a start. Depends what it costs to get those two guys. Won't be cheap.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 16 @ 10:22 PM ET
12 seconds?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 16 @ 10:22 PM ET
Vegas comes right back. 3-1.
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