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LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

May 17 @ 2:36 PM ET
God dammit.

Can't catch a break can ya?

- Scabeh

It’s not fun but I knew I had to have another surgery, was hoping it wasn’t the same one as before, it’s (frank)ing painful.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 17 @ 2:41 PM ET
Ozhiganov unlike Zaitsev was a 4/5 defender in the K. Zaitsev was the best in the league for his age. Head and shoulders above the others. Looks more like a Rosen level signing.
- AdamFrench


Don't be foolish.

Ozhiganov is awesome.

Now.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 17 @ 2:47 PM ET
Ozhiganov unlike Zaitsev was a 4/5 defender in the K. Zaitsev was the best in the league for his age. Head and shoulders above the others. Looks more like a Rosen level signing.
- AdamFrench


No risk signing - if it works out, he's a 6/7 guy that replaces Polak on the right side. If it doesn't in the NHL - he helps the Marlies. Good signing, and not the answer to top four requirements on the right side.
paulozz
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 17 @ 2:53 PM ET

Love the name Ozhiganov...notice my avatar
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

May 17 @ 2:54 PM ET
Ozhiganov unlike Zaitsev was a 4/5 defender in the K. Zaitsev was the best in the league for his age. Head and shoulders above the others. Looks more like a Rosen level signing.
- AdamFrench

It’s worth it to take a chance, if it doesn’t work out then it’s just a year contract. No big deal.

Engvall could become something.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 17 @ 2:58 PM ET
It’s worth it to take a chance, if it doesn’t work out then it’s just a year contract. No big deal.

Engvall could become something.

- LeafMan


Maybe this time not give him a 6 years contract if he performs decently?

Maybe?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 17 @ 3:00 PM ET
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/411-igor-ozhiganov-russian-defenceman-connected-leafs/
- Archaic

That video shows that they are full of poop though...

Babcock loved Rafalski who played on international ice...so...Ozhiganov?!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 17 @ 3:00 PM ET
Wow wow wow

So, do you think the real estate market and our near 400 billion dollar debt has had anything to do with some of these issues? Remember, economic growth, etc, can be bought at the expense of the future.

Oh, and nothing is free...

And electricity prices are on par or better? I almost puked here...


- Hockey_Reverend

- Under Harris, the Ontario Government was paying about 15.5 cents of every revenue dollar to sevice the debt. Today, the Ontario government pays a fraction over 8 cents per revenue dollar.

- As per electricity prices, click here:

http://www.hydroquebec.co...on-electricity-prices.pdf

I'm not trolling. I am merely reporting facts.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 17 @ 3:00 PM ET
That video shows that they are full of poop though...

Babcock loved Rafalski who played on international ice...so...Ozhiganov?!

- AdamFrench


They're exactly alike!!!

LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

May 17 @ 3:01 PM ET
Maybe this time not give him a 6 years contract if he performs decently?

Maybe?

- Scabeh

Zaitsev was more than decent last year but should have gotten only a three or four year contract.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 17 @ 3:06 PM ET
Zaitsev was more than decent last year but should have gotten only a three or four year contract.
- LeafMan

I fully expect* him to regain his form next year.

-------------------------------------------------

* And buy "expect" I fully mean "hope, pray, sob uncontrollably, sacrifice a goat."
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

May 17 @ 3:07 PM ET
Zaitsev was more than decent last year but should have gotten only a three or four year contract.
- LeafMan


Sophomore slump + injuries (concussion & broken foot)

One can only hope he bounces back and looks more like he did his first year. I'll keep my expectations low though lol
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 17 @ 3:07 PM ET
Maybe this time not give him a 6 years contract if he performs decently?

Maybe?

- Scabeh


Wishing for it, not going to make it happen. Truth is, outside of the Martin and Zaitsev deals, most of the contracts look decent - could also add the stupid tax for Kessel. And the jury is still out on Z, he could be ok this year. Lottery teams typically have a few stinkers

According to this list the worst contract on the Leafs, doesn't cost a dime against the cap.

https://thehockeywriters....worst-nhl-contracts-2018/
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 17 @ 3:08 PM ET
Love the name Ozhiganov...notice my avatar
- paulozz

I can't wait until someone nicknames him "the Wizard."

*full facepalm*
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 17 @ 3:13 PM ET
Wishing for it, not going to make it happen. Truth is, outside of the Martin and Zaitsev deals, most of the contracts look decent - could also add the stupid tax for Kessel. And the jury is still out on Z, he could be ok this year. Lottery teams typically have a few stinkers

According to this list the worst contract on the Leafs, doesn't cost a dime against the cap.

https://thehockeywriters....worst-nhl-contracts-2018/

- winsix


It's a pretty decent list.

Not sure about Horton though. Would have gone with Zaitsev or Martin.... in both case it's not terrible. As you said.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 17 @ 3:14 PM ET
- Under Harris, the Ontario Government was paying about 15.5 cents of every revenue dollar to sevice the debt. Today, the Ontario government pays a fraction over 8 cents per revenue dollar.

- As per electricity prices, click here:

http://www.hydroquebec.co...on-electricity-prices.pdf

I'm not trolling. I am merely reporting facts.

- Atomic Wedgie


Nice political pamphlet there Wedgie - doesn't make it fact. When I read a feasibility study in my line of work, it is a proposal to justify, to get funding - not necessarily a statement of fact as you are indicating here.

I've owned several homes over the years, paid hydro over that timespan, I even worked for hydro as a co-op student years ago. The prices charged and the treatment of the public are insipid.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 17 @ 3:16 PM ET
Another Percutaneous nephrolithotomy surgery, second in 5 months.
- LeafMan


Good lord.

How you making out? Did you have the surgery or is it coming up?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 17 @ 3:19 PM ET
Even if they have millions of dollars....
Why the (frank) am I paying for their medication? (frank) right off

And nice work putting the housing market into the poopter!

(frank) off Wynn

- .OHOH.

I have no problem with people thinking the free prescriptions should be means tested - I'm one of them. Not sure why they didn't go this way - would have been cheaper.

As for the housing market being in the pooper - gimme a franking break. We experienced double- digit growth for so franking long. You get no sympathy for (at worst) losing 10% this year - FFS you gained 25% last franking year.

Like I said, there are plenty of reasons to not like the Liberals.

"Wynne is a witch" is not a legitimate argument.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 17 @ 3:22 PM ET
Nice political pamphlet there Wedgie - doesn't make it fact. When I read a feasibility study in my line of work, it is a proposal to justify, to get funding - not necessarily a statement of fact as you are indicating here.

I've owned several homes over the years, paid hydro over that timespan, I even worked for hydro as a co-op student years ago. The prices charged and the treatment of the public are insipid.

- winsix

It's from franking Hydro-Quebec!
You think they are painting a rosy picture about Ontario Hydro?

It's not that franking hard to check the numbers if you don't believe them.

It in fact does make it fact, FFS.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 17 @ 3:24 PM ET
- Under Harris, the Ontario Government was paying about 15.5 cents of every revenue dollar to sevice the debt. Today, the Ontario government pays a fraction over 8 cents per revenue dollar.

- As per electricity prices, click here:

http://www.hydroquebec.co...on-electricity-prices.pdf

I'm not trolling. I am merely reporting facts.

- Atomic Wedgie


Pretty clear.


http://torontosun.com/201...46-457a-9cab-d09e7b9e6387
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 17 @ 3:26 PM ET
I have no problem with people thinking the free prescriptions should be means tested - I'm one of them. Not sure why they didn't go this way - would have been cheaper.

As for the housing market being in the pooper - gimme a franking break. We experienced double- digit growth for so franking long. You get no sympathy for (at worst) losing 10% this year - FFS you gained 25% last franking year.

Like I said, there are plenty of reasons to not like the Liberals.

"Wynne is a witch" is not a legitimate argument.

- Atomic Wedgie


Agree with this statement
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

May 17 @ 3:29 PM ET
Good lord.

How you making out? Did you have the surgery or is it coming up?

- Aetherial

It’s coming up, I went yesterday to the urologist to discuss it. They will call with CT scan date, then surgery date.

How are you doing?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 17 @ 3:33 PM ET
Pretty clear.


http://torontosun.com/201...46-457a-9cab-d09e7b9e6387

- Aetherial

"But, as the Fraser Institute explained in a report last week on Ontario’s finances, all is not rosy for Ontarians on the deficit front.


That’s because the Liberals accumulated debt for this year is projected at $311.9 billion, almost 125% higher than the $138.8 billion debt the Liberals inherited from the Progressive Conservatives when they came to power in 2003.

Interest still has to be paid on that $311.9 billion by taxpayers, at a rate of almost $1 billion a month, or $11.6 billion annually."


Except what the Sun conveniently omits is under Harris, the relative debt load was almost twice as much.

Under Harris, the Ontario government was spending about 15 and a half cents of every revenue dollar to service debt. Today, it's just over 8 cents.

This isn't an Ontario thing - interest rates are at a historic low. Governments around the world (as recommended by the IMF) took on debt to stimulate the economy during the recession.

In short: there has never been a better time to borrow.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

May 17 @ 3:36 PM ET
"But, as the Fraser Institute explained in a report last week on Ontario’s finances, all is not rosy for Ontarians on the deficit front.


That’s because the Liberals accumulated debt for this year is projected at $311.9 billion, almost 125% higher than the $138.8 billion debt the Liberals inherited from the Progressive Conservatives when they came to power in 2003.

Interest still has to be paid on that $311.9 billion by taxpayers, at a rate of almost $1 billion a month, or $11.6 billion annually."


Except what the Sun conveniently omits is under Harris, the relative debt load was almost twice as much.

Under Harris, the Ontario government was spending about 15 and a half cents of every revenue dollar to service debt. Today, it's just over 8 cents.

This isn't an Ontario thing - interest rates are at a historic low. Governments around the world (as recommended by the IMF) took on debt to stimulate the economy during the recession.

In short: there has never been a better time to borrow.

- Atomic Wedgie


You’re now at the point of which leader is the lesser of three evils.

Some might say there is no winner in this election for Ontario.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 17 @ 3:37 PM ET
It’s coming up, I went yesterday to the urologist to discuss it. They will call with CT scan date, then surgery date.

How are you doing?

- LeafMan

Oh, buddy - I just googled that.

I will raise a glass to your health tonight.
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