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TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 15 @ 9:58 AM ET
Want to bet. Watch what happens when Captain shows up at the recess bell.
- mdw7413

Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

May 15 @ 10:39 AM ET
How many days left until we draft Jesperi Kotkaniemi?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 15 @ 10:54 AM ET
How many days left until we draft Jesperi Kotkaniemi?
- Pete V


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TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 15 @ 10:54 AM ET
How many days left until we draft Jesperi Kotkaniemi?
- Pete V

More like how many days til this thread turns into a dumpster fire from the outrage over whoever we pick
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
38
- jimbro83

Should make it a daily thing...who was the last great player picked at number 38 overall?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
More like how many days til this thread turns into a dumpster fire from the outrage over whoever we pick
- TPC

I'm sure you guys will learn to love Barrett Hayton
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 15 @ 10:58 AM ET
More like how many days til this thread turns into a dumpster fire from the outrage over whoever we pick
- TPC


Gonna trade Zib at the draft for another 1st and Sign JT on July 1st. Gonna have four mutha(frank)ing 1sts!
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

May 15 @ 10:59 AM ET
More like how many days til this thread turns into a dumpster fire from the outrage over whoever we pick
- TPC


I think what tends to happen is we spent months getting locked into a certain group of players as the top tier, and then you have risers on teams' boards who the general public might not necessarily know about. So, if your team is the team that picks one of those guys, you b*tch about picking some guy that was off the radar.

The guy I mentioned above seems like a riser. Seen and heard a few pundits now say that he is going to rise into the Top 10, and even possibly the Top 5, which of course would drop one or more players we've been talking about down the board.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

May 15 @ 10:59 AM ET
I'm sure you guys will learn to love Barrett Hayton
- eichiefs9


Hayton is a good player. Wouldn't mind him at all, but at some point later in the round (if they trade up).
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 15 @ 11:00 AM ET
Should make it a daily thing...who was the last great player picked at number 38 overall?
- TPC


Roman Josi went 38th to Nashville in 2008, pretty good one
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 15 @ 11:00 AM ET
Hayton is a good player. Wouldn't mind him at all, but at some point later in the round (if they trade up).
- Pete V

I know, but yea he'd be a bad pick at 9.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 15 @ 11:01 AM ET
Roman Josi went 38th to Nashville in 2008, pretty good one
- jimbro83

damn yea that is a clear winner for most recent.

Got to get ready for 37 tomorrow
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 15 @ 11:01 AM ET
Gonna trade Zib at the draft for another 1st and Sign JT on July 1st. Gonna have four mutha(frank)ing 1sts!
- mdw7413

If we sign JT I will make out with Chiefs....so kind of hoping it happens
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 15 @ 11:02 AM ET
Roman Josi went 38th to Nashville in 2008, pretty good one
- jimbro83


Whats with blueshirt banter? I stumbled over there one day somehow and I saw a guy saying Hayes sucks because he gets sheltered minutes? When did playing against the other teams top line and on the PK become sheltered?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 15 @ 11:02 AM ET
If we sign JT I will make out with Chiefs....so kind of hoping it happens
- TPC



Wait.....
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 15 @ 11:03 AM ET


Wait.....

- mdw7413

Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

May 15 @ 11:03 AM ET
Whats with blueshirt banter? I stumbled over there one day somehow and I saw a guy saying Hayes sucks because he gets sheltered minutes? When did playing against the other teams top line and on the PK become sheltered?
- mdw7413


You need to stop caring what imbeciles think.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

May 15 @ 11:05 AM ET
I know, but yea he'd be a bad pick at 9.
- eichiefs9


I wonder what the chances are the Rangers will even pick in the slots they currently have. They have so many picks to deal with, they have the ability to move up and down the board a good deal.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 15 @ 11:05 AM ET
Roman Josi went 38th to Nashville in 2008, pretty good one
- jimbro83

Eric Desjardins and Bob Bourne were 38th overall picks, too. And Kelly Hrudey.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 15 @ 11:07 AM ET
You need to stop caring what imbeciles think.

- Pete V



Oh I don't, or else I would have logged in and started pounding my keyboard furiously. I just chuckled and left.

Although I would love to see Vin over there.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 15 @ 11:08 AM ET
I wonder what the chances are the Rangers will even pick in the slots they currently have. They have so many picks to deal with, they have the ability to move up and down the board a good deal.
- Pete V

I don't honestly see them moving up very far, unless they end up parting with a surprising asset that nobody saw coming. But I can definitely see them finding a way to jump into the early 20's or late teens using one of their late firsts and a second or something along those lines.

For reference, when the Islanders traded up to select Ho Sang they gave up:

35th (2nd round) and 57th overall (2nd round) for 28th overall

and when they did the same thing the following year to get Beauvillier, they gave up:

33rd overall (2nd round) and 72nd overall (3rd round) for 28th overall

So I have to imagine that the Rangers packaging something like Boston's 26th pick, a 2nd, and a 3rd/4th could get them down around pick 20 or so.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

May 15 @ 11:13 AM ET
I don't honestly see them moving up very far, unless they end up parting with a surprising asset that nobody saw coming. But I can definitely see them finding a way to jump into the early 20's or late teens using one of their late firsts and a second or something along those lines.

For reference, when the Islanders traded up to select Ho Sang they gave up:

35th (2nd round) and 57th overall (2nd round) for 28th overall

and when they did the same thing the following year to get Beauvillier, they gave up:

33rd overall (2nd round) and 72nd overall (3rd round) for 28th overall

So I have to imagine that the Rangers packaging something like Boston's 26th pick, a 2nd, and a 3rd/4th could get them down around pick 20 or so.

- eichiefs9


whatever, corey
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 15 @ 11:13 AM ET
whatever, corey
- mrn22

Nice prospects, bad prospects
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

May 15 @ 11:14 AM ET
I don't honestly see them moving up very far, unless they end up parting with a surprising asset that nobody saw coming. But I can definitely see them finding a way to jump into the early 20's or late teens using one of their late firsts and a second or something along those lines.

For reference, when the Islanders traded up to select Ho Sang they gave up:

35th (2nd round) and 57th overall (2nd round) for 28th overall

and when they did the same thing the following year to get Beauvillier, they gave up:

33rd overall (2nd round) and 72nd overall (3rd round) for 28th overall

So I have to imagine that the Rangers packaging something like Boston's 26th pick, a 2nd, and a 3rd/4th could get them down around pick 20 or so.

- eichiefs9


Yeah, I say screw giving up two additional picks to move up six spots, unless there is a clear no-brainer type of pick. I see a lot of good prospects in that area of the draft without much space between them. So, if that is the cost, no way as far as I am concerned. Maybe the Tampa pick and those picks that you mentioned to move up to 20. If that isn't enough, screw it.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 15 @ 11:16 AM ET
Yeah, I say screw giving up two additional picks to move up six spots, unless there is a clear no-brainer type of pick. I see a lot of good prospects in that area of the draft without much space between them. So, if that is the cost, no way as far as I am concerned. Maybe the Tampa pick and those picks that you mentioned to move up to 20. If that isn't enough, screw it.
- Pete V

Depends how the draft goes, too. If someone ends up freefalling down the draft board and they're there at, say, 19th overall...the Rangers have the assets to trade up and snag them. Pretty much exactly what the Isles did with Barzal, even though some of that move has to be attributed to Pete Chiarelli apparently huffing caustic chemicals before the draft that year.

If the Rangers think they can get a guy they have ranked higher than pick 26 in that spot, no reason to move up. It's so fluid that it's impossible to predict.
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