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UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

May 10 @ 9:37 AM ET
If Malkin and Ledecky are as unhappy with Snow as they appear, why not bite the bullet, pay Snow for the remaining four or five years on his deal and go in an entirely new direction?

That question is befuddling many Islander fans and many around the league. As one team executive put it not long ago: “It’s not that difficult. Either he’s your guy or he isn’t.”


Yeah, well, the Isles have a habit of struggling with the "not that difficult" stuff. Take, for example...

Weight has been on the road for several weeks, doing some amateur scouting. There are no indications that any of his coaches are in danger.

And finally,

All signs still point to Tavares heading to the five-day contact window with other clubs from June 25-30, so the Islanders will in all likelihood head to the draft floor with no idea whether their captain intends to stay or leave.

With two first rounders and a whole bunch of important roster decisions to make outside of Tavares, the strategy at the draft should be 180 degrees different depending on whether Tavares stays or goes. If the Snow and Weight stuff wasn't enough of an indication of how rudderless this entire organization is, just winging it at the draft shows they really have no plan at all, or even any ideas for a plan, for anything, from top to bottom.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 10 @ 10:19 AM ET


I don't really believe that Andy Graziano from SNY has sources that I am supposed to believe
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 10 @ 10:21 AM ET


I don't really believe that Andy "All I do is whine about public transportation on twitter" Graziano from SNY has sources that I am supposed to believe

- eichiefs9


I really hope he is not believable on this one.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

May 10 @ 10:34 AM ET
Great news
- Cptmjl

Yea he must not have internet access in Britain to see how bad this team is
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 10 @ 11:01 AM ET


I don't really believe that Andy Graziano from SNY has sources that I am supposed to believe

- eichiefs9

Thinking the same thing
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 10 @ 11:05 AM ET
Thinking the same thing
- Vukota

I swear I'm going to make some cheap-ass looking blog, start writing stuff, and then start tweeting that my "sources" are/aren't hearing good/bad things about the Islanders.

I don't think Graziano is one of those bargain-basement blog idiots that totally makes stuff up, but even if he did hear that...I doubt it was from someone all that plugged in. Probably some low-level idiot that the higher-ups lie to in order to avoid leaks
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 10 @ 11:13 AM ET
If Malkin and Ledecky are as unhappy with Snow as they appear, why not bite the bullet, pay Snow for the remaining four or five years on his deal and go in an entirely new direction?

That question is befuddling many Islander fans and many around the league. As one team executive put it not long ago: “It’s not that difficult. Either he’s your guy or he isn’t.”


Yeah, well, the Isles have a habit of struggling with the "not that difficult" stuff. Take, for example...

Weight has been on the road for several weeks, doing some amateur scouting. There are no indications that any of his coaches are in danger.

And finally,

All signs still point to Tavares heading to the five-day contact window with other clubs from June 25-30, so the Islanders will in all likelihood head to the draft floor with no idea whether their captain intends to stay or leave.

With two first rounders and a whole bunch of important roster decisions to make outside of Tavares, the strategy at the draft should be 180 degrees different depending on whether Tavares stays or goes. If the Snow and Weight stuff wasn't enough of an indication of how rudderless this entire organization is, just winging it at the draft shows they really have no plan at all, or even any ideas for a plan, for anything, from top to bottom.

- UIF



This entire situation is an embarassment at this point. I like the line of "he's either your guy or hes not your guy". Its as simple as that, and if he's your guy then thats pathetic. I'd love to know more about what ownership is doing in regards to interviewing any possible people.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

May 10 @ 11:36 AM ET
I swear I'm going to make some cheap-ass looking blog, start writing stuff, and then start tweeting that my "sources" are/aren't hearing good/bad things about the Islanders.

I don't think Graziano is one of those bargain-basement blog idiots that totally makes stuff up, but even if he did hear that...I doubt it was from someone all that plugged in. Probably some low-level idiot that the higher-ups lie to in order to avoid leaks

- eichiefs9

Wait so Andy isn't the next uncle Bob or Elliott Friedman
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 10 @ 11:37 AM ET
This entire situation is an embarassment at this point. I like the line of "he's either your guy or hes not your guy". Its as simple as that, and if he's your guy then thats pathetic. I'd love to know more about what ownership is doing in regards to interviewing any possible people.
- kindlyrick

Why couldn't it have been the entire front office and executive staff that got sucked out the window of that Southwest plane?
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

May 10 @ 11:37 AM ET
This entire situation is an embarassment at this point. I like the line of "he's either your guy or hes not your guy". Its as simple as that, and if he's your guy then thats pathetic. I'd love to know more about what ownership is doing in regards to interviewing any possible people.
- kindlyrick

The answer to your question is nothing
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

May 10 @ 12:17 PM ET
The answer to your question is nothing
- Upstate_isles

Evaluating takes time. Jeez, stupid.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

May 10 @ 12:20 PM ET
If for no other reason than to take your mind of the current situation with the Isles. 2 interesting news bits last night.

1. The Devils just signed our boy Strait to a 2 year contract. http://www.nj.com/devils/...n_strait_waive_yaros.html

2. Longest game in AHL history last night ended in the 5th overtime. check out the clip as ex Isles "stud" Colin McDonald gets an assist on the game winner. http://www.sportingnews.c...hrhly51zyv1j16m7bmjnmchba
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

May 10 @ 12:25 PM ET
Evaluating takes time. Jeez, stupid.
- Isleshockeyman

Yes I forgot
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 10 @ 12:35 PM ET
Chris Botta

@ChrisBottaNHL
12m12 minutes ago
More Chris Botta Retweeted Arthur Staple
Until proven otherwise, it’s official: as if Snow wasn’t incompetent enough, #Isles ownership does not have any idea what they’re doing. Tavares must be so impressed. What a fiasco.

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 10 @ 12:37 PM ET
Chris Botta

@ChrisBottaNHL
12m12 minutes ago
More Chris Botta Retweeted Arthur Staple
Until proven otherwise, it’s official: as if Snow wasn’t incompetent enough, #Isles ownership does not have any idea what they’re doing. Tavares must be so impressed. What a fiasco.


- Vukota

From Staple's article this morning:

It’s assumed he would take one of Snow’s two current jobs. But what if Snow isn’t so keen on letting go of either the president or GM role, even for a legend like Lamoriello whom Snow admires? If Malkin and Ledecky are as unhappy with Snow as they appear, why not bite the bullet, pay Snow for the remaining four or five years on his deal and go in an entirely new direction?

That question is befuddling many Islander fans and many around the league. As one team executive put it not long ago: “It’s not that difficult. Either he’s your guy or he isn’t.”


It's so (frank)ing obviously simple and these two mongoloids are gonna take 6 months to make a decision that should have taken them 6 minutes.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 10 @ 12:42 PM ET
Evaluating takes time. Jeez, stupid.
- Isleshockeyman

The owners don't care what happens, at all. They have one interest and one interest only. Scott Malkin's lineage should tell you all you need to know about the one thing they care about:



JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

May 10 @ 12:43 PM ET
From Staple's article this morning:

It’s assumed he would take one of Snow’s two current jobs. But what if Snow isn’t so keen on letting go of either the president or GM role, even for a legend like Lamoriello whom Snow admires? If Malkin and Ledecky are as unhappy with Snow as they appear, why not bite the bullet, pay Snow for the remaining four or five years on his deal and go in an entirely new direction?

That question is befuddling many Islander fans and many around the league. As one team executive put it not long ago: “It’s not that difficult. Either he’s your guy or he isn’t.”


It's so (frank)ing obviously simple and these two mongoloids are gonna take 6 months to make a decision that should have taken them 6 minutes.

- eichiefs9


They should have fired him right after they were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 10 @ 12:48 PM ET
They should have fired him right after they were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.
- JimmyP

They don't care about hockey, they're real estate speculators. They got their land, they'll get their arena, and they'll care fuck-all about anything else.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 10 @ 12:50 PM ET
From Staple's article this morning:

It’s assumed he would take one of Snow’s two current jobs. But what if Snow isn’t so keen on letting go of either the president or GM role, even for a legend like Lamoriello whom Snow admires? If Malkin and Ledecky are as unhappy with Snow as they appear, why not bite the bullet, pay Snow for the remaining four or five years on his deal and go in an entirely new direction?

That question is befuddling many Islander fans and many around the league. As one team executive put it not long ago: “It’s not that difficult. Either he’s your guy or he isn’t.”


It's so (frank)ing obviously simple and these two mongoloids are gonna take 6 months to make a decision that should have taken them 6 minutes.

- eichiefs9


This is really ridiculous. They are pretty much packing JT's bags themselves. Why would he even talk to them at this point?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 10 @ 12:50 PM ET
They don't care about hockey, they're real estate speculators. They got their land, they'll get their arena, and they'll care fuck-all about anything else.
- eichiefs9


Just like every other Isles owner that can around after Pickett.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 10 @ 12:51 PM ET
This is really ridiculous. They are pretty much bagging JT's bags themselves. Why would he even talk to them at this point?
- ses111

I don't even care anymore. There isn't a shot in hell he sticks around and I'm not going get upset about it. I probably won't ever spend a penny on this team ever again.
Mancalledsting
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 10 @ 12:54 PM ET
If Malkin and Ledecky are as unhappy with Snow as they appear, why not bite the bullet, pay Snow for the remaining four or five years on his deal and go in an entirely new direction?

That question is befuddling many Islander fans and many around the league. As one team executive put it not long ago: “It’s not that difficult. Either he’s your guy or he isn’t.”


Yeah, well, the Isles have a habit of struggling with the "not that difficult" stuff. Take, for example...

Weight has been on the road for several weeks, doing some amateur scouting. There are no indications that any of his coaches are in danger.

And finally,

All signs still point to Tavares heading to the five-day contact window with other clubs from June 25-30, so the Islanders will in all likelihood head to the draft floor with no idea whether their captain intends to stay or leave.

With two first rounders and a whole bunch of important roster decisions to make outside of Tavares, the strategy at the draft should be 180 degrees different depending on whether Tavares stays or goes. If the Snow and Weight stuff wasn't enough of an indication of how rudderless this entire organization is, just winging it at the draft shows they really have no plan at all, or even any ideas for a plan, for anything, from top to bottom.

- UIF



More and more I'm being convinced of a theory I heard that Wang gave Snow a "no fire" clause and that's why they can't can him. (And somehow Ledecky and Malkin agreed to this) It's all bizarre, and par for the course with this franchise, but, I mean, what else could this be?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 10 @ 12:54 PM ET
I don't even care anymore. There isn't a shot in hell he sticks around and I'm not going get upset about it. I probably won't ever spend a penny on this team ever again.
- eichiefs9


I cannot blame JT as this point. No way I sign if Garth is still in charge.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 10 @ 12:57 PM ET
More and more I'm being convinced of a theory I heard that Wang gave Snow a "no fire" clause and that's why they can't can him. (And somehow Ledecky and Malkin agreed to this) It's all bizarre, and par for the course with this franchise, but, I mean, what else could this be?
- Mancalledsting


I know many have stated the NHL would not allow such a contract. It just seems something very strange going on otherwise L&M should have plenty of money to fire Garth and will have even more with Belmont and especially if they hire a quality hockey person.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

May 10 @ 1:01 PM ET
I know many have stated the NHL would not allow such a contract. It just seems something very strange going on otherwise L&M should have plenty of money to fire Garth and will have even more with Belmont and especially if they hire a quality hockey person.
- ses111


Chief's theory is the one that makes the most sense. If they don't care about the on ice product then there is no reason to buy out Snow.
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