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kingcong39
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Apr 27 @ 8:49 AM ET
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Bills QB Josh Allen on @WGR550 this morning on comp % in 2017: "If I completed 16 more passes the entire year I would have had a 62%....but it's definitely something that needs to be fixed."

WORST EVER

- TheSabresTaco


Watch that video I posted Taco. The comment from Simms about how many screens the other top QB's threw compared to him helped inflate their completion percentages.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 8:49 AM ET
We are getting off on the wrong foot here as you, and several others, have their opinions on Allen cemented in granite, but all I am saying is he's no bum, as he has serious talent, and it's far, FAR from a foregone conclusion that he's going to be a bust as quite a few seem to already think is the case.
- kingcong39



Like i said...
I HOPE I’M WRONG

The article lists reason after reason that confirms what i saw when i watched him play though

So i hope he will be good
I just doubt it
TheSabresTaco
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Apr 27 @ 8:50 AM ET
Oh, so that means he WILL fix his accuracy issues?

It’s not easy to do

Just read the article
https://www.sbnation.com/...tats-analysis-comparisons

- jdfitz77


I read it last night. I'm not going to sit here and pout about it because I'm an adult. These guys are prospects. Every single one of them. And until I can see what they can do in an NFL scheme coached by NFL coaches against NFL players, I will reserve my judgement.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:50 AM ET
Sorry guys....DA Billz gonna DA Billz


Darnold



EDIT: The LB pick was a good one on your part.
TheSabresTaco
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Apr 27 @ 8:51 AM ET
Watch that video I posted Taco. The comment from Simms about how many screens the other top QB's threw compared to him helped inflate their completion percentages.
- kingcong39


been hearing that all morning. I bet if he threw 20 screens, his accuracy wouldn't be questioned.. as much.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 8:51 AM ET
Like i said...
I HOPE I’M WRONG

The article lists reason after reason that confirms what i saw when i watched him play though

So i hope he will be good
I just doubt it

- jdfitz77


The article posts a ton of stats without doing full analysis, which is fine.

I'll say it again: you and others are acting like the guy is some bum who is going to be a bum, and that could not be further from the truth.
gerbe75pts
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Apr 27 @ 8:51 AM ET
Sorry guys....DA Billz gonna DA Billz


Darnold

- feetontheair22


This is my quiet zone and you're ruining it ..

I don't think I could handle the draft lottery tomorrow

Ugh
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 27 @ 8:52 AM ET
Like i said...
I HOPE I’M WRONG

The article lists reason after reason that confirms what i saw when i watched him play though

So i hope he will be good
I just doubt it

- jdfitz77


You think the Bills are smart enough to recognize this fan site article? I hope so
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 27 @ 8:52 AM ET
This is my quiet zone and you're ruining it ..

I don't think I could handle the draft lottery tomorrow

Ugh

- gerbe75pts


You're not supposed to be here.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 8:52 AM ET
Sorry guys....DA Billz gonna DA Billz

Darnold

EDIT: The LB pick was a good one on your part.

- feetontheair22


Counter opinion, which is also possible: Darnold continues to be a turnover machine in the NFL while Allen becomes a top 10 QB.
TheSabresTaco
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Apr 27 @ 8:53 AM ET
Sorry guys....DA Billz gonna DA Billz


Darnold



EDIT: The LB pick was a good one on your part.

- feetontheair22


Love that pick. The guy is a monster. Needs coaching (ability), which I think we have in spades
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 27 @ 8:53 AM ET
I read it last night. I'm not going to sit here and pout about it because I'm an adult. These guys are prospects. Every single one of them. And until I can see what they can do in an NFL scheme coached by NFL coaches against NFL players, I will reserve my judgement.
- TheSabresTaco


That’s fine
Doesn’t mean i can’t dislike the pick either
Good for u for not having an opinion
Like i said,
I hope I’m wrong

But everytime i watched him,
Allen looked bad
And the article gives a lot of points to back up what i saw
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:53 AM ET
Counter opinion, which is also possible: Darnold continues to be a turnover machine in the NFL while Allen becomes a top 10 QB.
- kingcong39


You don't know anything, read the SB Nation article
gerbe75pts
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Apr 27 @ 8:54 AM ET
The sun rose today. Go drink a kale smoothie and chill the (frank) out
- TheSabresTaco


I'm pretty chill right now yesterday I was so pissed yesterday But my friends Calmed me down

I'm just questioning why we took on a project when we don't have anybody to groom that "project"

When Rosen is already Pro ready..
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 27 @ 8:54 AM ET
The article posts a ton of stats without doing full analysis, which is fine.

I'll say it again: you and others are acting like the guy is some bum who is going to be a bum, and that could not be further from the truth.

- kingcong39


You don’t know that either

I think he will be a bust
Feel free to lmk i was wrong in a few years if he’s a good QB
I’ll be happy to own it
gerbe75pts
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Apr 27 @ 8:55 AM ET
Counter opinion, which is also possible: Darnold continues to be a turnover machine in the NFL while Allen becomes a top 10 QB.
- kingcong39


Sam is going to be very good I'm positive the bills had him at 1 then Allen it looks like
TheSabresTaco
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Apr 27 @ 8:55 AM ET
That’s fine
Doesn’t mean i can’t dislike the pick either
Good for u for not having an opinion
Like i said,
I hope I’m wrong

But everytime i watched him,
Allen looked bad
And the article gives a lot of points to back up what i saw

- jdfitz77


I most certainly do have an opinion. I have an opinion about every single one of these guys. But I trust Beane because of his evaluation ability. He clearly sees ability in this kid and he clearly sees traits than can be coached and developed. He has the ability to be the best qb in this class. He has ability to be a top QB in this league. It may take him a little while, but it's not out of the question.

If Allen was indeed "Bad" every time he played, why would the Bills pick him 7th? Why would Mike Mayock rate him the 9th overall prospect?
feetontheair22
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Joined: 02.01.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:55 AM ET
Counter opinion, which is also possible: Darnold continues to be a turnover machine in the NFL while Allen becomes a top 10 QB.
- kingcong39


lol fair enough...totally possible
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 27 @ 8:56 AM ET
You don’t know that either

I think he will be a bust
Feel free to lmk i was wrong in a few years if he’s a good QB
I’ll be happy to own it

- jdfitz77


My point, which you missed, is that he is not a bum now, and it's not certain that he will be a bum as an NFL QB, as he has massive talent.
gerbe75pts
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Apr 27 @ 8:56 AM ET
You're not supposed to be here.
- TheSabresTaco


Where am I supposed to be?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 27 @ 8:56 AM ET
Love that pick. The guy is a monster. Needs coaching (ability), which I think we have in spades
- TheSabresTaco


Yeah, bc our Coach & OC have a track record of developing QBs?

Oh, wait...

Again, i hope I’m wrong
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 27 @ 8:57 AM ET
Sam is going to be very good I'm positive the bills had him at 1 then Allen it looks like
- gerbe75pts


I think Sam will be too, but he better fix that turnover problem and quick.
gerbe75pts
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Apr 27 @ 8:57 AM ET
lol fair enough...totally possible
- feetontheair22


I was hoping for a Sam vs Rosen battle for years
But NVM

Good luck
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 27 @ 8:58 AM ET
Where am I supposed to be?
- gerbe75pts


You said, and I quote "If the Bills pick Josh Allen, I'm done"

Define "done"
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 8:58 AM ET
I most certainly do have an opinion. I have an opinion about every single one of these guys. But I trust Beane because of his evaluation ability. He clearly sees ability in this kid and he clearly sees traits than can be coached and developed. He has the ability to be the best qb in this class. He has ability to be a top QB in this league. It may take him a little while, but it's not out of the question.

If Allen was indeed "Bad" every time he played, why would the Bills pick him 7th? Why would Mike Mayock rate him the 9th overall prospect?

- TheSabresTaco


Wish i had your optimism
I just don’t

And u obviously didn’t watch any of his games, did u?
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