Why don't they need those players.........they just signed both of them long term. And even then, it only gives them about under 10 million to sign Tavares to get to the cap ceiling....

And with Ellis becoming a FA in a couple years they simply don't have the room.

Nashville is one of the least possible places in the NHL, in fact I would put money on him not going to Nashville
- Santo_44

Because they're both not as good as Tavares. Pretty simple math.

They don't need Ellis as much as you think they do considering who they have in net and on the rest of their blueline. But they could trade another D and keep Ellis if he really was that important to them. Or again, trade Turris.

Nashville has a better situation than Toronto does. More money, better team, more privacy. That's usually an equation for a UFA to gravitate towards.

That could be in the dictionary to help define the world speculation.

Winning a Cup is far from a guarantee so not only are his odds in Nashville way better, but if he were to NOT win a Cup in Nashville, it'd be water under a bridge. In Toronto, not the same story. You're so fixated on the glory you can't see the forest from the trees and see the whole picture.
- Unholy_Goalie

Meanwhile you are speculating Nashville would trade Arvidson, one of their best players

Also, that Tavares wants to play in a "quite" market

And that a team with one of the least amount of cap space going into the offseason has the best chance at signing a 12 million dollar player

This is a guy who has led the league in 5v5 goal scoring since he entered the league.

He absolutely sh1t the bed this series.

Maybe he learns from this? Who knows. What I do know is, that if it is not an injury, the complete drop off in the playoffs is worthy of serious criticism and questions.

He didn't just struggle a little, he was nearly (frank)ing invisible.
- Aetherial

For what it's worth, the first time Crosby faced an elite defensive centre in Zetterberg, he didn't do much either.

I think Matthews just needs to learn from this and get better.

If he wasn't there should be concern and if he was there should be concern..

#Chokejob
#injuryprone
- Fruitcakenipple

Word.

And you could get the world for him

Because they're both not as good as Tavares. Pretty simple math.

They don't need Ellis as much as you think they do considering who they have in net and on the rest of their blueline. But they could trade another D and keep Ellis if he really was that important to them. Or again, trade Turris.

Nashville has a better situation than Toronto does. More money, better team, more privacy. That's usually an equation for a UFA to gravitate towards.
- Unholy_Goalie

Preds are loaded on D in an embarrassing way & prospects as well. Situations don’t get better than Nashville or VGK 2nd.

Because they're both not as good as Tavares. Pretty simple math.

They don't need Ellis as much as you think they do considering who they have in net and on the rest of their blueline. But they could trade another D and keep Ellis if he really was that important to them. Or again, trade Turris.

Nashville has a better situation than Toronto does. More money, better team, more privacy. That's usually an equation for a UFA to gravitate towards.
- Unholy_Goalie

You are speculation he wants more privacy, you don't know Tavares

Nashville has 7 mil and Toronto has 25 mil. He will not be getting more money in NSH. Simple math

lets take a bet, if he signs in NSH I won't show myself around these boards ever again.

If he signs in TOR you do not show your face.

Perma banned for life. Deal?

Meanwhile you are speculating Nashville would trade Arvidson, one of their best players

Also, that Tavares wants to play in a "quite" market

And that a team with one of the least amount of cap space going into the offseason has the best chance at signing a 12 million dollar player
- Santo_44

So they trade Smith instead. Or Turris. They have a lot of options no matter how badly you want to believe otherwise.

It's way more likely Tavares, like most players, wants to not be bothered every 10 (frank)ing seconds of his life by fans and media. He's not PK Subban who goes looking for the limelight so the burden of proof is on you to prove he does want to play in Toronto. Good luck with that.

For what it's worth, the first time Crosby faced an elite defensive centre in Zetterberg, he didn't do much either.

I think Matthews just needs to learn from this and get better.
- Scabeh

Aka learn to carry a team then yes

You are speculation he wants more privacy, you don't know Tavares

Nashville has 7 mil and Toronto has 25 mil. He will not be getting more money in NSH. Simple math
- Santo_44

Neither do you but history shows that players don't want to deal with the bullpoop of a media crazy market if they are free to choose. Prove he's an attention seeker. Good luck.

He can get the same contract from both teams and Nashville has the better tax rate and the better team. Even if you throw out the privacy factor, everything else is still in Nashville's favor.

Matthews:

Missing like MH370

Tardiner 24 min
McDermott 11 min

Thinking the Preds cannot or would not find cap for JT is laughable. They go crazy over hockey & give JT what he seeks...cups

Did anyone else notice how the local boys ( Hyman Marner Brown) played the best

Prairie boys also good (Marleau Dermott )

Auston Willie Freddie and Jake- not

Neither do you but history shows that players don't want to deal with the bullpoop of a media crazy market if they are free to choose. Prove he's an attention seeker. Good luck.

He can get the same contract from both teams and Nashville has the better tax rate and the better team. Even if you throw out the privacy factor, everything else is still in Nashville's favor.
- Unholy_Goalie

Read my above statement

Deal?

Seriously, I am that confident he won't end up in NSH.

We can get it official with the refs. Loser gets permabanned. If it's a draw, no one loses or gets banned.

Did anyone else notice how the local boys ( Hyman Marner Brown) played the best

Prairie boys also good (Marleau Dermott )

Auston Willie Freddie and Jake- not
- mr.sir

Brown had 1 good game

Sign Tavares.
(frank) JVR
(frank) the Bozek
(frank) Polak


To ARI:
Matthews
Gardiner
Carrick
(+ picks if need be)

To TOR:
OEL
Chychrun
Keller
Stome
Domi

Marner-Tavares-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Brown
Domi-Keller-Kapanen
Hyman-Strome-Johnsson

Rielly-OEL
Chychrun-Hainsey
Zaitsev-Dermott


- .HOHO.

You guys are worse then we are

You guys are worse then we are
- Whiskey-Tango

We got competition...damn 😂😂👍

Brown had 1 good game
- Corn_Logg

Brown 1 Willie 0

One is a better bargain

You guys are worse then we are
- Whiskey-Tango

Much worse.

Because they're both not as good as Tavares. Pretty simple math.

They don't need Ellis as much as you think they do considering who they have in net and on the rest of their blueline. But they could trade another D and keep Ellis if he really was that important to them. Or again, trade Turris.

Nashville has a better situation than Toronto does. More money, better team, more privacy. That's usually an equation for a UFA to gravitate towards.
- Unholy_Goalie

you're making stuff up.

reasons why FAs sign with teams:

💸 - Money
🏆 - Trophies
⏰ - Playing time/respect
🏠 - To go home

1 with endorsements toronto >> nashville
2 over 7 years equal toronto and nashville
3 nashville > toronto
4 toronto >>>>>>>>> nashville

Read my above statement

Deal?

Seriously, I am that confident he won't end up in NSH.

We can get it official with the refs. Loser gets permabanned. If it's a draw, no one loses or gets banned.
- Santo_44

Equally as confident that the Leafs depth would beat the Bruins?

you're making stuff up.

reasons why FAs sign with teams:

💸 - Money
🏆 - Trophies
⏰ - Playing time/respect
🏠 - To go home

1 with endorsements toronto >> nashville
2 over 7 years equal toronto and nashville
3 nashville > toronto
4 toronto >>>>>>>>> nashville
- MaximusAurelius

Endorsements are a flimsy argument until you can prove it, which you can't.

Nashville is a far stronger Cup contender than the Leafs. Better goalie, better defense, better style; better everything. All they're really missing is a player like Tavares. They got the rest. The Leafs, not even half way there yet.

He'd be #1 in Nashville, probably #2 in Toronto. And respect? If things go bad in Toronto, he's a dog. If things go bad in Nashville, he's unknown.

Going home? He can do that in the off-season. He doesn't need to be there 365.

And #5 is privacy. Players want to be rich, being famous is less than desirable.

Equally as confident that the Leafs depth would beat the Bruins?
- Unholy_Goalie

Bruins were like bambis on the ice end of period 2.
Bruins didn't win this series - Leafs choked and gave up the game in third.

in fact, it became quite clear that Leafs depth was making a difference with Chara, McAvoy, Bergeron, Pastrnak and Ratface all displaying worse performances in last 2 games.

It's not close. Crosby still wins for the next few years. Crosby and Malkin at 35+ years old, then things might start to change.
- Unholy_Goalie

You seem to be forgetting McDavid, Drai, Nuge.
Top two C depth by any measure.

Endorsements are a flimsy argument until you can prove it, which you can't.

Nashville is a far stronger Cup contender than the Leafs. Better goalie, better defense, better style; better everything. All they're really missing is a player like Tavares. They got the rest. The Leafs, not even half way there yet.

He'd be #1 in Nashville, probably #2 in Toronto. And respect? If things go bad in Toronto, he's a dog. If things go bad in Nashville, he's unknown.

Going home? He can do that in the off-season. He doesn't need to be there 365.

And #5 is privacy. Players want to be rich, being famous is less than desirable.
- Unholy_Goalie

you're really making up the whole 'privacy' thing.

if Stamkos can make approx 2mln in endorsements in Tampa (not even going to Ovy and Sid), then Tavares can definitely make that in Toronto as well.
For him to play in Nashville won't give him the same endorsement deals.

But let's just say he'll 'just' make 1mln more in endorsements at Toronto vs. Nashville.
That's compensating the tax difference 100%.