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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 15 @ 6:03 PM ET
Hot take.

Nolan Patrick and Konec are outplaying G and V.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 15 @ 6:05 PM ET
Hot take.

Nolan Patrick and Konec are outplaying G and V.

- flyer_nutter

not a hot take if it's the undisputed truth
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Apr 15 @ 6:05 PM ET
Hot take.

Nolan Patrick and Konec are outplaying G and V.

- flyer_nutter


So is Giroux still MVP? How many points so far?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 15 @ 6:06 PM ET
Hot take.

Nolan Patrick and Konec are outplaying G and V.

- flyer_nutter

Can't argue that.

Jake is taking brutal penalties.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 15 @ 6:06 PM ET
So is Giroux still MVP? How many points so far?
- Aussiepenguin

What even is the Conn Smythe, anyway
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 15 @ 6:06 PM ET
Ridiculous. Even at Simmonds current level of play, Weise is not close.
- MJL

Closeđź‘€Weise is alone on the bottom of alltime worst flyers
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Apr 15 @ 6:06 PM ET
So is Giroux still MVP? How many points so far?
- Aussiepenguin


There is another award for playoff MVP in case you didn’t know.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 15 @ 6:06 PM ET
For the most part I agree, but a coach has to make some in game changes when things aren’t working out. I’m not sure Lindblom is too effective out there right now. Patrick looks like he wants to break out. If do something to give Patrick’s line more spark
- funmaster18


He did, he put Voracek up with Giroux and Couturier for a number of shifts.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Apr 15 @ 6:06 PM ET
So is Giroux still MVP? How many points so far?
- Aussiepenguin


Is this considered “being funny” in Australia?
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Apr 15 @ 6:07 PM ET
What's up with Ghost and Provorov? I would have though the Flyers 3-6 dmen would be the weakness against the Pens, but not these guys. Looking at both the season series and playoffs, your top duo seems to be struggling at EVS.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 15 @ 6:07 PM ET
i dont know what simmonds you're watching cause the one out there isnt doing anything. I get you like him man i do too but hes actively hurting this team and not helping
- bulet13

Okay, enough putting words in my mouth. It's not about like or dislike. It's about putting players in a position to succeed. The one place Simmonds is a difference maker is the Power Play. Voracek and Gostisbehere were absolute zeros out there both at even strength and their perspective bread and butter, the Power Play. Both did zip.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Apr 15 @ 6:08 PM ET
Hot take.

Nolan Patrick and Konec are outplaying G and V.

- flyer_nutter

They are at this point. But the Flyers don't even get here without G and V despite their bad play to start this series. If they want to get G going they need to reunite him and TK. Konecny's speed really opens things up for Giroux while Raffl does nothing but drag him and Couts down. I'll never get why Hak broke that line up makes zero sense to me.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 15 @ 6:08 PM ET
What's up with Ghost and Provorov? I would have though the Flyers 3-6 dmen would be the weakness against the Pens, but not these guys. Looking at both the season series and playoffs, your top duo seems to be struggling at EVS.
- DeflatedPucks

Provorov and Ghost aren't this incredible top pair.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 6:09 PM ET
Comes down to the Pens best players are dominating and ours are not showing up
- opeth_pa


Complacency most likely. Flyers best players have done nothing but win, while the Penguins top players are hungry for success.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 15 @ 6:09 PM ET
What's up with Ghost and Provorov? I would have though the Flyers 3-6 dmen would be the weakness against the Pens, but not these guys. Looking at both the season series and playoffs, your top duo seems to be struggling at EVS.
- DeflatedPucks

i think it's just that the Pens are clearly the better team lol

both are still young and haven't had much playoff experience and are now being relied upon to stop your top guys
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 15 @ 6:09 PM ET
What even is the Conn Smythe, anyway
- Giroux_Is_God

An rabbi
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 15 @ 6:09 PM ET
What's up with Ghost and Provorov? I would have though the Flyers 3-6 dmen would be the weakness against the Pens, but not these guys. Looking at both the season series and playoffs, your top duo seems to be struggling at EVS.
- DeflatedPucks

Tbh these guys are playing with little to no playoff experience against the back to back champions.

I have to remind myself sometimes how young Provy is too.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 15 @ 6:12 PM ET
Who asked Patrick that question?

Tell me it was Boruk.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 15 @ 6:14 PM ET
They are at this point. But the Flyers don't even get here without G and V despite their bad play to start this series. If they want to get G going they need to reunite him and TK. Konecny's speed really opens things up for Giroux while Raffl does nothing but drag him and Couts down. I'll never get why Hak broke that line up makes zero sense to me.
- FreshFlyer


Not sure what was so hard to get about it. The coach was looking for more scoring balance and offensive threats deeper into their lineup. Konecny has arguably been their best offensive forward in the series. He has provided a spark for that line. Are you seriously going to tell me that the player that everyone thinks should win the Hart, which I don't disagree with, needs Konecny to get going and play better offensively? Not saying it won't help and it's a bad suggestion but let's not pretend like the move to put Konecny on that the 3rd line does not have a sound basis behind it.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 15 @ 6:14 PM ET
Closeđź‘€Weise is alone on the bottom of alltime worst flyers
- Landsbergfan

Boyd is close HeX need to sign better FA
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 15 @ 6:15 PM ET
Who asked Patrick that question?

Tell me it was Boruk.

- hereticpride

His fancy suitđź‘„
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Apr 15 @ 6:18 PM ET
Not sure what was so hard to get about it. The coach was looking for more scoring balance and offensive threats deeper into their lineup. Konecny has arguably been their best offensive forward in the series. He has provided a spark for that line. Are you seriously going to tell me that the player that everyone thinks should win the Hart, which I don't disagree with, needs Konecny to get going and play better offensively? Not saying it won't help and it's a bad suggestion but let's not pretend like the move to put Konecny on that the 3rd line does not have a sound basis behind it.
- MJL


All I know is Konecny opened up a lot of space for Giroux and Couturier with his speed when they played together. Raffl slows those two down. I get Hakstol trying to spread the depth but when Simmonds and Filppula are pretty useless offensively I'd rather load up my top 2 lines and hope the bottom two lines play sound defence. We can agree to disagree but that's just what I think.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 15 @ 6:19 PM ET
Boyd is close HeX need to sign better FA
- Landsbergfan


Go big. Taveras and Carlson. Trade G to Canadians for their 1st and a solid starter. dump lahtera with added picks.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Apr 15 @ 6:20 PM ET
Okay, enough putting words in my mouth. It's not about like or dislike. It's about putting players in a position to succeed. The one place Simmonds is a difference maker is the Power Play. Voracek and Gostisbehere were absolute zeros out there both at even strength and their perspective bread and butter, the Power Play. Both did zip.
- SuperSchennBros



Simmonds is a net front presence guy. If the puck isn’t getting there then he is nullified. NOPA at least has puck skills
And can make plays from behind the net.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Apr 15 @ 6:21 PM ET
Okay, enough putting words in my mouth. It's not about like or dislike. It's about putting players in a position to succeed. The one place Simmonds is a difference maker is the Power Play. Voracek and Gostisbehere were absolute zeros out there both at even strength and their perspective bread and butter, the Power Play. Both did zip.
- SuperSchennBros

Makes sense to me. I’m all for making changes when things aren’t working
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