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Mahewman
Season Ticket Holder
Boston Bruins
Location: NH
Joined: 07.01.2009

Apr 15 @ 11:57 AM ET
I didnt think Matthew's was playing? Seemed pretty invisible for a generational talent, I wonder how many games the brings would have won if you'd drafted McDavid instead of Matthew's? I wouldn't have, but what if?
- Pres.cup



They were not in the same draft.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Apr 15 @ 11:58 AM ET
I like him but not sure how he can help us from the IR.
- LeafMan


He wouldn't get injured playing for you guys, lots of better players to shelter him.... maybe gudbranson for liljegren would have cleared the net, got one more year before the new contracts are gonna kill you guys.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Apr 15 @ 11:58 AM ET
To me it's not a mystery why when Pastrnak came to the Bruins two years ago and was put on a line with Marchand, Marchand's numbers improved by about 20 points. I think you guys are underrating how good Pastrnak actually is.

The Leafs are giving him too much time and space with their poor defensive coverage but the kid is a very skilled player.

- LeftCoaster


Yeah nobody but Max is going to argue any of this.
Maybe UG, but that's only because he argues everything. He just can't help himself.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 15 @ 11:58 AM ET
Last change could be a big impact in getting Mathews and co. some favorable matchups.
- david22

Yep, I'm hoping for the best.

I wouldn't bet on them being down 2-0, but if they can win the next game they are back in it.

I find it funny watching fans talking like the season is over, probably over frustration. But at the end of the day one win and it's 2-1. They need the next game though. 3-0 would be crushing.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Apr 15 @ 11:59 AM ET
They were not in the same draft.
- Mahewman


But what if? I've heard Mathews is a more complete player with a better shot but McDavid is just so fast...
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 15 @ 11:59 AM ET
They could turn it around. I'm not hopeful they will, but it's not impossible. Even if we lose in six and the next 4 games are good hockey, we can relax a bit and wait for next season. We will only get better. Getting sick of this BRING BACK ORR & MCLAREN horsepoop too. Get the (frank)ers to skate, make Andersen practice with a beachball to get some confidence and tighten up defensively. Breathe, you twats, and hope for the best.
- UsernameUnknown


I agree. Babcock has like zero answer for the Bruins effectively shutting down matthews.

Which is where the Leafs depth has to show up. It's no worse than on par with the bruins. Their bottom is full of young players too.

I would double shift Matthews as often as possible. Even play Marleau on the wing and Matthews every few shifts between him and marner.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 15 @ 12:00 PM ET
He wouldn't get injured playing for you guys, lots of better players to shelter him.... maybe gudbranson for liljegren would have cleared the net, got one more year before the new contracts are gonna kill you guys.
- Pres.cup

Not at all. They are coming off of ELCs. One where Nylander had only 60 points. This notion that those three will have huge contracts that will destroy the team is hilarious. And it's only a narative that opposing teams fan bases that don't like the leafs are making to make them feel better.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Apr 15 @ 12:00 PM ET
To me it's not a mystery why when Pastrnak came to the Bruins two years ago and was put on a line with Marchand, Marchand's numbers improved by about 20 points. I think you guys are underrating how good Pastrnak actually is.

The Leafs are giving him too much time and space with their poor defensive coverage but the kid is a very skilled player.

- LeftCoaster

I think I pointed out he has lots of skill, just makes it easier that you have two players to bail you out in the dzone and set you up with grade A chances.

Need to be physical with him, make him pay. Unfortunately the Leafs can’t target his head like the Bruins are doing with Marner, we will pay the price with penalties and from the league.
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Apr 15 @ 12:02 PM ET
I don’t know what he expected by doing that.

One jab I can let go, but post after post? No way.

- LeafMan

Great! Bout time. As they say on the White sox games. " He Gone"
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 15 @ 12:02 PM ET
I think I pointed out he has lots of skill, just makes it easier that you have two players to bail you out in the dzone and set you up with grade A chances.

Need to be physical with him, make him pay. Unfortunately the Leafs can’t target his head like the Bruins are doing with Marner, we will pay the price.

- LeafMan

For sure....welcome to 2011 finals #(frank)indirtybruins
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 15 @ 12:03 PM ET
Considering the impact Kane has had on the Sharks.

It's even more hilarious that Buffalo got so little for him.

That man is setting up to get a very nice contract next season.

- Scabeh

We get their 2019 first rounder if he resigns or they win the cup this year. Would help soften the blow that’s forsure. Rentals got peanuts on the open market this year though excluding Nash.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Apr 15 @ 12:04 PM ET
For sure....welcome to 2011 finals #(frank)indirtybruins
- LeftCoaster

I was just thinking about that, I remember all the high hits they were giving the Canucks, especially the twins. I guess they are immune to getting caught.

They did it to Leafs, quite often in that game 7, one shift I counted 3 boarding hits, two cross checks and one high stick, then they scored.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Apr 15 @ 12:06 PM ET
Not at all. They are coming off of ELCs. One where Nylander had only 60 points. This notion that those three will have huge contracts that will destroy the team is hilarious. And it's only a narative that opposing teams fan bases that don't like the leafs are making to make them feel better.
- Santo_44


Marner will get a Draisitl type contract or bigger, Mathews should get a max deal Like Mcdavid dude, Nylander got 60 points, that's worth 6m in the nhl, plus think about how many 20s are going to be shoved down her panties.
Reilly should get paid likes the stud he is, think 7.5 plus x8, when Anderson gets re upped think price numbers, that's his closer comparable, what will happen if he walks, I wouldn't want to think about that.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 15 @ 12:06 PM ET
We get their 2019 first rounder if he resigns or they win the cup this year. Would help soften the blow that’s forsure. Rentals got peanuts on the open market this year though excluding Nash.
- Pegullaville


And tatar
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 15 @ 12:08 PM ET
Marner will get a Draisitl type contract or bigger, Mathews should get a max deal Like Mcdavid dude, Nylander got 60 points, that's worth 6m in the nhl, plus think about how many 20s ate going to be shoved down her panties.
Reilly should get paid likes the stiff he is, think 7.5 plus x8, when Anderson gets re upped think price numbers, that's his closer comparable, what will happen if he walks, I wouldn't want to think about that.

- Pres.cup

WTF are you even babbling about?
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Apr 15 @ 12:09 PM ET
WTF are you even babbling about?
- manvanfan


Shhh, there's rascally rabbit's in the woods...

The upcoming cap hell in 2 years that is gonna start closing the window.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 15 @ 12:10 PM ET
And tatar
- Aaron_85

Tatar has term left if I’m not mistaken. This is also the same GM that traded Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Apr 15 @ 12:11 PM ET
I agree. Babcock has like zero answer for the Bruins effectively shutting down matthews.

Which is where the Leafs depth has to show up. It's no worse than on par with the bruins. Their bottom is full of young players too.

I would double shift Matthews as often as possible. Even play Marleau on the wing and Matthews every few shifts between him and marner.

- Aaron_85


I wonder if Babcock changes the line-up again to make a shutdown line to match the B's top line. I'm not sure how to do it without Kadri but it'd have to be Komo-Marleau-Brown or something, which (frank)s with the other lines too.

Personally, I'm hoping we say (frank) it and get Marner with Matthews
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 15 @ 12:13 PM ET
I wonder if Babcock changes the line-up again to make a shutdown line to match the B's top line. I'm not sure how to do it without Kadri but it'd have to be Komo-Marleau-Brown or something, which (frank)s with the other lines too.

Personally, I'm hoping we say (frank) it and get Marner with Matthews

- UsernameUnknown


I think it's going to take the team just trying to shut out the top line. Force Bruins depth to win
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Apr 15 @ 12:13 PM ET
Offense aside (you should win a game where you score 3 goals), defensive coverage (the lack of) is brutal.

I think 4 out of the Boston goals were by guys alone in front of the net with the goalie.

Also, 3-4 of those goals were because of defensemen throwing the puck at Boston players, when there was nobody even close to them in the zone (Hainsey) or the dman was doing cute moves at the blue line (Gardiner) while 3 Bruins were right on top of that area.

Leafs are playing Arizona Coyotes levels of hockey. I havent seen games this bad from them even in the regular season.

They literally give the entire game away in 5-6 minutes. Boston could have chihuahuas with taped hockey sticks to their bodies, and they'd still score 3-4 goals.

Defense is brutal, and its on the forwards as well.

When Hyman is your best player, a 3rd line 40 point guy in the regular season, that tells everything.

As for Nylander wanting Pastrnak money? Forget it. He's a level or two below that guy, even in the regular season. Pastrnak is not a comparable for him. Ditto for Matthews and McDavid, simply no.

- Buggy166


You're clearly angry. I get it hon. But this was never the matchup we wanted.

The Bruins are a really good team: their vets are playing great, ours... well... there's a reason why we're not resigning Bozak, JVR, etc.

Hainsey's looking all of those 37 years after playing top pairing minutes all season with Rielly; Plek's been garbage: another important vet that hasn't panned out at all.

Losing Kadri was a huge blow and really shines a light on our weakness up the middle: Bozak is always going to have to center a sheltered line.

Tavares is now more than ever going to have to be our target this summer if we want a Penguins-style team that's top-heavy and can win from sheer firepower.

Remember Crosby and friends looked pretty awful against Babcock's Red Wings before they finally beat them and won their first cup... and Crosby always had Malkin there with him.

Also, us sitting pretty for the last few months, not to mention the last stretch of games against laughers like BUF and MTL did nothing to prepare us for a rested Bruins bunch.

Not making excuses, but just shining a light on what should be obvious when we play against a team like Boston.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Apr 15 @ 12:16 PM ET
I think it's going to take the team just trying to shut out the top line. Force Bruins depth to win
- Aaron_85


That would be ideal. I like our depth, if they can actually produce, but as long as our top line can't play even with theirs we're doomed.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Apr 15 @ 12:18 PM ET
They are playing scared. Panic and flail at every opportunity. It's poetry in motion.

It's fun watching the fanbase embracing the #MeToo movement.

- Danny Bomber

It's fun watching a fan of another team who didn't make the playoffs embrace leafs hate. It feels good, I embrace it. It just shows your utter and complete Richard envy of everything Toronto.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 15 @ 12:19 PM ET
Tatar has term left if I’m not mistaken. This is also the same GM that traded Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat.
- Pegullaville


Hmm maybe but still an expensive price
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 15 @ 12:21 PM ET
Marner will get a Draisitl type contract or bigger, Mathews should get a max deal Like Mcdavid dude, Nylander got 60 points, that's worth 6m in the nhl, plus think about how many 20s are going to be shoved down her panties.
Reilly should get paid likes the stud he is, think 7.5 plus x8, when Anderson gets re upped think price numbers, that's his closer comparable, what will happen if he walks, I wouldn't want to think about that.

- Pres.cup


Driasitil???

Come on, he's overpaid to begin with....and Marner has never gotten close to 77 points. So nope wrong there.

Matthews will get a nice contract, but until he gets 100 points he won't get Mcdavid money. And if the playoffs keep going like they are then that's another strike against Matthews money.

Nylander will get 6. Yeah. Just like every other good team in the NHL who has a 60 point player

Reilly and Andersen are signed for another 3-4 years.

Move along
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Apr 15 @ 12:21 PM ET
I agree. Babcock has like zero answer for the Bruins effectively shutting down matthews.

Which is where the Leafs depth has to show up. It's no worse than on par with the bruins. Their bottom is full of young players too.

I would double shift Matthews as often as possible. Even play Marleau on the wing and Matthews every few shifts between him and marner.

- Aaron_85


It's laughable to get on Babcock right now honestly. Do I love every move he makes, but he is an amazing coach. It's a lot harder when the bruins have home ice advantage and your shutdown centre takes a dimwitted suspension.

Babcock is a great coach and with another coach do you really thi k they'd have finished a high the last two years? Nope
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