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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 27 @ 6:02 PM ET
Who ever said that? I only see a UFA as a free player & it should be for need. Problem is GM’s rarely get it right.
- Nighthawk

I believe you did in the last thread.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 27 @ 6:04 PM ET
You should see a 4 way stop in Quesnel. The people going straight will not go at the same time.... when you do it,,,, they throw their hands up in disgust. Takes forever to get anywhere. People riding their brakes up to green lights til it turns yellow and leaves you at a red. Idiots doing 30 in a school zone 8pm on a Sunday. I'm going to rip someones arms and legs off soon.
- boonerbuck

I usually roll the window down and yell out the "C" word, it doesn't help the situation but I feel better.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 27 @ 6:05 PM ET
I usually roll the window down and yell out the "C" word, it doesn't help the situation but I feel better.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Roll the window down and yell "Canucks!!" at them?


Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 27 @ 6:06 PM ET
I still can't believe that people think that signing UFA's to big money long-term with NTC's for "only money" is a low-risk thing to do.




Cap space is an asset, just like a draft pick.

- Nucker101


if you don't have a good handle on the cap, you aren't doing your job right. Cap management is so imperative to running a team. Does it surprise anyone that teams that are getting insane value on players are at the top of the league right now (Nashville with their D, and Tampa with their forwards) VS teams that are struggling (CHI/VAN). Its not black and white, and obviously teams that have a plethora of space, or don't spend to the ceiling, doesn't equate success or failure, but the proof is in the standings currently.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 27 @ 6:09 PM ET
Roll the window down and yell "Canucks!!" at them?



- boonerbuck

YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 27 @ 6:27 PM ET
Tanev and Del Zotto (with 50% salary retained on MDZ) to NYI for Calgary's 2018 first and second, plus the Islanders 2nd.

Islanders need to show Tavares that they're prepared to take bold steps to fix their defensive problems and be in ‘win now’ mode. Otherwise he's gone and they’re looking at being in another rebuild mode again themselves. This one move would give them two legitimate NHL veterans including a top-pairing shut-down option, at an average cap hit of less than $3MM each, and without losing any roster players or top prospects. (They could use some of those remaining assets to solve their goaltending issues and try to sign Carter Hutton or Antti Ranta as UFA's.)

Canucks would get two picks in the top 15 of this year’s draft plus two more in the top 43. They would likely be able to take one of the top scoring forwards plus three quality D prospects from the first two rounds. Salary retention on MDZ is only for one year.

Tanev’s injury troubles are mainly the result of constantly getting slammed into the end boards and having pucks hammered at him because the Canucks are lousy. Playing in New York behind a group of forwards who are good at puck possession would greatly reduce the wear and tear on his body and his games lost number should go way down.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 27 @ 6:31 PM ET
if you don't have a good handle on the cap, you aren't doing your job right. Cap management is so imperative to running a team. Does it surprise anyone that teams that are getting insane value on players are at the top of the league right now (Nashville with their D, and Tampa with their forwards) VS teams that are struggling (CHI/VAN). Its not black and white, and obviously teams that have a plethora of space, or don't spend to the ceiling, doesn't equate success or failure, but the proof is in the standings currently.
- Codes1087


It definitely helps when they sign the playersbefore they hit Ufa years to value contracts.
Players like Bo getting his contract, hopefully will be the way of the future for this team.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 27 @ 6:33 PM ET
Tanev and Del Zotto (with 50% salary retained on MDZ) to NYI for Calgary's 2018 first and second, plus the Islanders 2nd.

Islanders need to show Tavares that they're prepared to take bold steps to fix their defensive problems and be in ‘win now’ mode. Otherwise he's gone and they’re looking at being in another rebuild mode again themselves. This one move would give them two legitimate NHL veterans including a top-pairing shut-down option, at an average cap hit of less than $3MM each, and without losing any roster players or top prospects. (They could use some of those remaining assets to solve their goaltending issues and try to sign Carter Hutton or Antti Ranta as UFA's.)

Canucks would get two picks in the top 15 of this year’s draft plus two more in the top 43. They would likely be able to take one of the top scoring forwards plus three quality D prospects from the first two rounds. Salary retention on MDZ is only for one year.

Tanev’s injury troubles are mainly the result of constantly getting slammed into the end boards and having pucks hammered at him because the Canucks are lousy. Playing in New York behind a group of forwards who are good at puck possession would greatly reduce the wear and tear on his body and his games lost number should go way down.

- YeOldTimer

Nice idea and an interesting trading partner. Although, I fear teams will stay away from Tanev at that price. Would be a great deal if possible At this point, I am ok with trading Tanev for a first in the 15-20 range in 2018 or a 2019 first +3rd.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 27 @ 6:34 PM ET
Tanev and Del Zotto (with 50% salary retained on MDZ) to NYI for Calgary's 2018 first and second, plus the Islanders 2nd.

Islanders need to show Tavares that they're prepared to take bold steps to fix their defensive problems and be in ‘win now’ mode. Otherwise he's gone and they’re looking at being in another rebuild mode again themselves. This one move would give them two legitimate NHL veterans including a top-pairing shut-down option, at an average cap hit of less than $3MM each, and without losing any roster players or top prospects. (They could use some of those remaining assets to solve their goaltending issues and try to sign Carter Hutton or Antti Ranta as UFA's.)

Canucks would get two picks in the top 15 of this year’s draft plus two more in the top 43. They would likely be able to take one of the top scoring forwards plus three quality D prospects from the first two rounds. Salary retention on MDZ is only for one year.

Tanev’s injury troubles are mainly the result of constantly getting slammed into the end boards and having pucks hammered at him because the Canucks are lousy. Playing in New York behind a group of forwards who are good at puck possession would greatly reduce the wear and tear on his body and his games lost number should go way down.

- YeOldTimer


sign me up!


At this stage i think Tanev is losing value and we'd be better to hold on and hope he can stay healthy for more than a few weeks before trading him.

What about Tanev and Hutton instead?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 27 @ 6:35 PM ET
sign me up!

- dbot

I'd drive him to the airport at that price
Coilers
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.07.2017

Mar 27 @ 6:37 PM ET
You should see a 4 way stop in Quesnel. The people going straight will not go at the same time.... when you do it,,,, they throw their hands up in disgust. Takes forever to get anywhere. People riding their brakes up to green lights til it turns yellow and leaves you at a red. Idiots doing 30 in a school zone 8pm on a Sunday. I'm going to rip someones arms and legs off soon.
- boonerbuck


I drive through Quesnel often and know exactly what you speak of.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 27 @ 6:38 PM ET
If you don't know how to use a roundabout, learn or sell your (frank)ing car.
- A_SteamingLombardi


It’s amazing. Some people think it’s the same as a 4 way stop
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 27 @ 6:38 PM ET
I drive through Quesnel often and know exactly what you speak of.
- Coilers


That's a good move.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 27 @ 6:47 PM ET
Tanev and Del Zotto (with 50% salary retained on MDZ) to NYI for Calgary's 2018 first and second, plus the Islanders 2nd.

Islanders need to show Tavares that they're prepared to take bold steps to fix their defensive problems and be in ‘win now’ mode. Otherwise he's gone and they’re looking at being in another rebuild mode again themselves. This one move would give them two legitimate NHL veterans including a top-pairing shut-down option, at an average cap hit of less than $3MM each, and without losing any roster players or top prospects. (They could use some of those remaining assets to solve their goaltending issues and try to sign Carter Hutton or Antti Ranta as UFA's.)

Canucks would get two picks in the top 15 of this year’s draft plus two more in the top 43. They would likely be able to take one of the top scoring forwards plus three quality D prospects from the first two rounds. Salary retention on MDZ is only for one year.

Tanev’s injury troubles are mainly the result of constantly getting slammed into the end boards and having pucks hammered at him because the Canucks are lousy. Playing in New York behind a group of forwards who are good at puck possession would greatly reduce the wear and tear on his body and his games lost number should go way down.

- YeOldTimer

JT not staying in NY, decision already made.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 27 @ 6:49 PM ET
JT not staying in NY, decision already made.
- LeftCoaster


he'll look good as a canuck
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 27 @ 6:51 PM ET
Nice idea and an interesting trading partner. Although, I fear teams will stay away from Tanev at that price. Would be a great deal if possible At this point, I am ok with trading Tanev for a first in the 15-20 range in 2018 or a 2019 first +3rd.
- CanuckDon



Majority of Tanev's injuries are not because he's fragile, it's from getting hit by pucks. i.e. Situational

Put him in a better situation and the number of times he's injured and the number of games he misses should go down fairly significantly. If he could play 70 games a year on a good team at that cap hit, he's a bargain. If this move helps keep Tavares around, it's a very, very low price to pay.

Islanders are in a unique position with their fans because losing the opportunity to take a first and second rounder is easily a distant second to retaining their franchise player in his prime.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 27 @ 6:53 PM ET
Majority of Tanev's injuries are not because he's fragile, it's from getting hit by pucks. i.e. Situational

Put him in a better situation and the number of times he's injured and the number of games he misses should go down fairly significantly. If he could play 70 games a year on a good team at that cap hit, he's a bargain. If this move helps keep Tavares around, it's a very, very low price to pay.

Islanders are in a unique position with their fans because losing the opportunity to take a first and second rounder is easily a distant second to retaining their franchise player in his prime.

- YeOldTimer



If i was Garth Snow, and trying to convince JT to stay, i'd be looking to make a sexier deal than Tanev though.
i'd be trying to land a Karlson (or Carlson for that matter) and a goalie.

Swing for the fences.

NYI trade Calvin De Haan (signed), Cal Clusterfcuk, Josh Ho Sang plus it's Calgary 1st, 2nd to Ottawa for a signed Karlson and Craig Anderson.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 27 @ 6:55 PM ET
If i was Garth Snow, and trying to convince JT to stay, i'd be looking to make a sexier deal than Tanev though.
i'd be trying to land a Karlson (or Carlson for that matter) and a goalie.

Swing for the fences.

- dbot

Yup.
Only someone with special needs would think the Canucks would be a good fit.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 27 @ 7:04 PM ET
A Good Owner would have less to do with the structure of the team rather than have more to do with it. IMO, FA should only be writing cheques to players, and deciding whether or not Linden and Benning get extensions, or get fired, and leave the day to day operations in the hands of the people who are supposed to know how to handle them.
- Codes1087

#Aqualiniout
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 27 @ 7:04 PM ET
sign me up!


At this stage i think Tanev is losing value and we'd be better to hold on and hope he can stay healthy for more than a few weeks before trading him.

What about Tanev and Hutton instead?

- dbot


I love the stability Tanev brings to the lineup and don't want him gone either but, weighing that against the ability to add a serious boost of quality D prospects, I think it's a move that should be pursued aggressively.

I'd prefer to see if Hutton can be salvaged. Islanders probably don't see much more value in him than some of the guys they've already got in their system, so it's not as compelling a deal compared to getting two veteran guys.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 27 @ 7:04 PM ET
JT not staying in NY, decision already made.
- LeftCoaster


St. Louis or Florida.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 27 @ 7:06 PM ET
I love the stability Tanev brings to the lineup and don't want him gone either but, weighing that against the ability to add a serious boost of quality D prospects, I think it's a move that should be pursued aggressively.

I'd prefer to see if Hutton can be salvaged. Islanders probably don't see much more value in him than some of the guys they've already got in their system, so it's not as compelling a deal compared to getting two veteran guys.

- YeOldTimer


I appreciate Tanev, but i wanted to move him when his value was higher (at least in my mind) earlier in the year/off season.

I feel his value is decreasing and i'm not so sure he'd bring the kind of return we've come to expect.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 27 @ 7:08 PM ET
Yup.
Only someone with special needs would think the Canucks would be a good fit.

- Marwood


😀
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 27 @ 7:17 PM ET
I dreamed that we won the draft lottery last night
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 27 @ 7:18 PM ET
You should see a 4 way stop in Quesnel. The people going straight will not go at the same time.... when you do it,,,, they throw their hands up in disgust. Takes forever to get anywhere. People riding their brakes up to green lights til it turns yellow and leaves you at a red. Idiots doing 30 in a school zone 8pm on a Sunday. I'm going to rip someones arms and legs off soon.
- boonerbuck



Was in Quesnel for 10 days of work til Xmas & noticed that on my way to Safeway lol
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