markmark
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 07.27.2010
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by what metric - daeth
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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Fixed. - AdamFrench
datsyuk vs bergeron is interesting. datsyuk was flashy as hell and was a takeaway machine but he still didn't shut people down like bergeron can. his offense was leagues above bergeron though. probably dats > bergeron and the gap might be considerable. i wish we could bring prime datsyuk into the league right now. |
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markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 07.27.2010
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I think they should rest the injured guys extra and bring them back for the 28th or 31st |
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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defense - markmark
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Played hockey against my boy the other day.....man am I ever fat and sweaty.
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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So i just looked and Plekaneck has 0 points in 8 games.
I think though having a competent NHL C while Matthews has been out has been important. Instead of having to call up the Goat or someone to fill in. Goat not so great imo
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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So i just looked and Plekaneck has 0 points in 8 games.
I think though having a competent NHL C while Matthews has been out has been important. Instead of having to call up the Goat or someone to fill in. Goat not so great imo - senstroll
he's barely been playing any minutes but ya, he's been non existent lol |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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I dont know about that. Boston has Tampa in most of the fancy stats areas and whatnot.
Id rather the Leafs face TB in rd 1, but if they manage to win a round they will probably have to face both anyways - senstroll
I disagree, TB's lineup is superior.
Even if Boston finishes 1st, a few extra wins or OT losses here and there don't matter. |
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.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS Joined: 07.05.2010
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Played hockey against my boy the other day.....man am I ever fat and sweaty and ugly as (frank)ing sin.
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Fixed! |
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RickJames77
Boston Bruins |
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Location: We’re Too Old, Boston Joined: 04.03.2013
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So i just looked and Plekaneck has 0 points in 8 games.
I think though having a competent NHL C while Matthews has been out has been important. Instead of having to call up the Goat or someone to fill in. Goat not so great imo - senstroll
I just still cannot believe that turtlenecked (frank) is a Leaf |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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So i just looked and Plekaneck has 0 points in 8 games.
I think though having a competent NHL C while Matthews has been out has been important. Instead of having to call up the Goat or someone to fill in. Goat not so great imo - senstroll
Pleks hasn't looked great either....and his fancy stats suck for a guy getting the easiest of minutes.
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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So i just looked and Plekaneck has 0 points in 8 games.
I think though having a competent NHL C while Matthews has been out has been important. Instead of having to call up the Goat or someone to fill in. Goat not so great imo - senstroll
To be fair, he's only averaged 11 minutes a game.. On the plus side, he has won 56% of his faceoffs and gets a lot of defensive zone starts.. |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Bergeron = great
Kopitar = overpaid
I would actually prefer ROR vs Kopitar - mr.sir
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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he's barely been playing any minutes but ya, he's been non existent lol - daeth
10 mins a game, and win your share of the FO. His fancy stats are nothing great. but he has roughly the same amount of TOI with the Leafs as the goat this season..but much better results than him. (similar to moore)
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Schennski
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 10.17.2008
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datsyuk vs bergeron is interesting. datsyuk was flashy as hell and was a takeaway machine but he still didn't shut people down like bergeron can. his offense was leagues above bergeron though. probably dats > bergeron and the gap might be considerable. i wish we could bring prime datsyuk into the league right now. - daeth
Babcock has said he thinks Datyuk could have gotten 130pts consistently and gone down as one of the best all time offensively.. but he took a back seat to play the right way and win.
I don't think the same can be said for Bergeron. |
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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10 mins a game, and win your share of the FO. His fancy stats are nothing great. but he has roughly the same amount of TOI with the Leafs as the goat this season..but much better results than him. (similar to moore) - senstroll
yeah goat was brutal. i dont think he's nhl quality unfortunately. not enough hockey sense to be good defensively and he's slowwwwwwwwww |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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10 mins a game, and win your share of the FO. His fancy stats are nothing great. but he has roughly the same amount of TOI with the Leafs as the goat this season..but much better results than him. (similar to moore) - senstroll
I think Moore looks better...you? |
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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Babcock has said he thinks Datyuk could have gotten 130pts consistently and gone down as one of the best all time offensively.. but he took a back seat to play the right way and win.
I don't think the same can be said for Bergeron. - Schennski
Not to the same degree as Datsyuk but for sure Bergeron sacrifices offense to play the way he does. In just his 2nd year he had 73 points, then 70 the next year. Then he got into concussion trouble (I think it was?) and sort of became the defensive forward he is now while losing a lot of offense. |
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Schennski
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 10.17.2008
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10 mins a game, and win your share of the FO. His fancy stats are nothing great. but he has roughly the same amount of TOI with the Leafs as the goat this season..but much better results than him. (similar to moore) - senstroll
Moore was a good option as a 4th line winger on Saturday. Komarov is obvs ahead of him and if we play Boston and things get 'tough' Martin may need to draw in.
It's weird having this much depth. |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Pleks hasn't looked great either....and his fancy stats suck for a guy getting the easiest of minutes. - Garnie
With Matthews out he is a better option than what they had. And in the playoffs if you need someone to fill in, I dont want Gauthier around. I just looked his CF% 35 and GF% is 14% (1-6) granted only 9 games
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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With Matthews out he is a better option than what they had. And in the playoffs if you need someone to fill in, I dont want Gauthier around. I just looked his CF% 35 and GF% is 14% (1-6) granted only 9 games - senstroll
microscopic sample size indeed but holy poop lol |
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Schennski
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 10.17.2008
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Not to the same degree as Datsyuk but for sure Bergeron sacrifices offense to play the way he does. In just his 2nd year he had 73 points, then 70 the next year. Then he got into concussion trouble (I think it was?) and sort of became the defensive forward he is now while losing a lot of offense. - daeth
For sure he does. I think every two way center does, aside from Sid who is underrated even for what he does.
I just don't think Bergeron would be a generational offensive center like Datsyuk could have been. |
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