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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Mar 21 @ 10:26 AM ET
let's play a game

let's say today the jets trade pick 3 this year and the 2019 first to the giants to move up to pick 2

let's also say the browns, for pick 1, says 4 first rd picks to the bills



the bills, only like the usc and ucla kids a lot, view allen as a project like ruldolph and get a bad vibe from mayfield




what do you do?

- homiedclown


In this scenario, I would stay pat as is with 12 and 22 then.
The very real risk however is that some other team, perhaps Miami one pick ahead takes one of the project QB's off the board. So they are then left with say the 5th QB at 12...seems too high to select him there. Another risk os Arizonia feels the same about a project QB and trades into an earlier slot and takes the 2nd (or 1st) project Qb...leaving the Bills outside looking in.
That is why, IF NY Giants are willing to trade out of 2 the Bills absolutely MUST get that pick...similar to McEichel...they are then assured of getting one of the 2 they do like.
I still think Beane has 1 additional move to make to get into 7th or higher...then go to the Giants with that selection making a 2 back to 7 more palatable then a 2 back to 12
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Mar 21 @ 10:29 AM ET
If you don't think GM's talk to other coaches about players then you are even more stupid than I thought.

Now look at the contract the Jets paid McCown and then look at the contract the Bills gave McCarron...

It is all for a reason

- Stripes77



IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Mar 21 @ 10:29 AM ET
Less than 24 hours after FA started. Last minute.
- TheSabresTaco

you forget that gerbe lives his life like this:

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Mar 21 @ 10:29 AM ET
Trade down from 12 if there is a team willing to give you a first this year and next like the Chiefs did (if there isn't a WR or MLB on the board you love).
- Stripes77


Totally agree.

What's wrong with plugging some holes this year in the draft.

Trade picks to take a qb next year.
Maybe tank a bit , if the season goes bad.
Go 6 -10. Pick #8
Use that draft capital to move up
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 21 @ 10:30 AM ET

- washedup20







This legit made me laugh
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Mar 21 @ 10:30 AM ET
Holy (frank) how are you still confused by this concept.

They called on every single guy. Every one.

The only one they TALKED about getting research on was the guy they signed.

- TheSabresTaco


His old coach is the one that recommended him are you serious right now ..

I bet you AJ was the 4th or 5th option they had

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 21 @ 10:32 AM ET
Totally agree.

What's wrong with plugging some holes this year in the draft.

Trade picks to take a qb next year.
Maybe tank a bit , if the season goes bad.
Go 6 -10. Pick #8
Use that draft capital to move up

- Boss34



I get why this draft has everyone thinking QB, theres 4 there that can go early. I totally understand why moving up is being discussed.

This new regime in Buffalo is very calculated and hasn't made a move that smells like a complete panic move. Giving up 5 or 6 draft picks to move up to the top 3 smells of complete panic to me.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Mar 21 @ 10:32 AM ET
Nah
- Hatboro_Swords


Agreed

Let's do the same thing we've been doing for 20 years and rinse and repeat
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Mar 21 @ 10:33 AM ET
His old coach is the one that recommended him are you serious right now ..

I bet you AJ was the 4th or 5th option they had

- gerbe75pts



They needed someone cheap with upside to sell the fans. He checks the boxes
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Mar 21 @ 10:33 AM ET
Just trade up for Rosen and we won't have to draft a QB for another 12 years who gives a poop
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Mar 21 @ 10:36 AM ET
Just trade up for Rosen and we won't have to draft a QB for another 12 years who gives a poop
- gerbe75pts

Rosen is NOT the guy. Not even close. They won't draft Rosen.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Mar 21 @ 10:36 AM ET
Just trade up for Rosen and we won't have to draft a QB for another 12 years who gives a poop
- gerbe75pts


That's a little short sighted. The rookie deal for a QB is when you need to try to win, because you can devote cap space to other positions. Look at Seattle for that. If you mortgage other assets to get the QB, you waste the cheap years and winning becomes harder.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 21 @ 10:38 AM ET
We get to watch Clayton Keller who some people said he would be nothing
- gerbe75pts

some people said you would be nothing


the jury is still out
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 21 @ 10:39 AM ET
That's a little short sighted. The rookie deal for a QB is when you need to try to win, because you can devote cap space to other positions. Look at Seattle for that. If you mortgage other assets to get the QB, you waste the cheap years and winning becomes harder.
- jcragcrumple



Especially with this extremely aging roster that the Bills currently have.

They need to draft guys to fill holes immediately.

They (Beane and McDermott) still have one more year of cleaning out the mess Whaley and company left them.

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 21 @ 10:39 AM ET
some people said you would be nothing


the jury is still out

- homiedclown



Is it?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 21 @ 10:39 AM ET
Rosen is NOT the guy. Not even close. They won't draft Rosen.
- Khmylev

peyton
rivers
luck
elway




somewhere way down the list, probably page 9


rosen
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Mar 21 @ 10:39 AM ET
I'd take McCown or McCarron. Bills won't admit it, but they're both bridge guys. Not sure what the Bills see in McCarron (in an honest, I don't know assessment), but if he's better than Tyrod, that's such a win.
- TheSabresTaco

and thats a huge question... .
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 21 @ 10:40 AM ET
Is it?
- Stripes77

a few watermelon fans out there
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Mar 21 @ 10:44 AM ET
Agreed

Let's do the same thing we've been doing for 20 years and rinse and repeat

- gerbe75pts

like trade up and draft JP Losman and EJ Manuel?

how did those trade ups work out for us?
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Mar 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
like trade up and draft JP Losman and EJ Manuel?

how did those trade ups work out for us?

- IndianaSabresFan

They're both fighting for Jesus now?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Mar 21 @ 10:49 AM ET
some people said you would be nothing


the jury is still out

- homiedclown


That is true I'm pretty unsuccessful I'm most likely going to spend my family's Fortune on heroin

CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Mar 21 @ 10:50 AM ET
They're both fighting for Jesus now?
- Khmylev



But are they naked?


And what a hell of a leg Zay has, the power to kick through one of those windows is pretty impressive. Try him out at punting!
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Mar 21 @ 10:57 AM ET
That is true I'm pretty unsuccessful I'm most likely going to spend my family's Fortune on heroin
- gerbe75pts

Seems accurate.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Mar 21 @ 10:59 AM ET
Seems accurate.
- Khmylev

either that or skinny jeans, v necks and trannys
burner087
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 01.18.2008

Mar 21 @ 10:59 AM ET
I really just hope they select the best available QB at 12. Then go need at 22. They could really restock this team with all these picks. Plus have a ton of cap space next year to pickup whatever they need.
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