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Shadman306
Joined: 06.11.2015

Feb 27 @ 1:29 PM ET
So when Botts said the Sharks had the only quality offer on the table, he was lying?
- TheSabresTaco



Maybe 1 pick wasn't quality to GMJB
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Feb 27 @ 1:33 PM ET
I'm a sabres fan that posted the same thing about evander and his character issues holding him back from having any real value.

I got this in return:

I'm sure you caused trouble when you were his age.

Faulk yelling at Kane has nothing to do with his value.

He has only caused 1 issue since he was here in buffalo (even though there are plenty of documented issues)

I was accused of being a rasist for not liking kane

I was told I do not "know how to watch hockey" if i didnt think kane was GREAT

I was told his value was UP

I was told jbotts turned down (2) 1st round picks

I was told the sabres were going to extend him, and it was close in talks.

I was told he is the best sabre, better then eichel

I was told he was an all star snub


Kane is slightly above average. He's a Richard head. Good riddance. He's not going to get us a 1st either.

- Boss34






Yeah ok bud
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 27 @ 1:34 PM ET
According to the Sharks Twitter, Thornton picked Kane up at the airport last night.
- Shadman306


They Hang out together when he comes up for West Coast trips they chill
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 27 @ 1:36 PM ET
Its a Vancouver radio station I'm sure there will be news outlets on it soon
- GERBE!!!75PTS


I saw u post that after
My bad
When i read it, it didn’t show there was another page of comments

I’ve gotta refresh it on my phone sometimes to see that
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 27 @ 1:36 PM ET
Now that's fact. Right.

Because Pierre lebrun said it?

He called %zero of the trades.

- Boss34


so you don’t think all his trade insider buddies don’t talk I mean they’re all best friends

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 1:36 PM ET
Maybe 1 pick wasn't quality to GMJB
- Shadman306


let's pretend for 1 second that a first round pick was definitely offered. What was the return for that pick? What was the year of the pick? Was it DEFINITELY not protected?

Paul Hamilton -

At no point in this process did Botterill receive an offer for a solid number one pick. He said, “We certainly had a lot of interest and a lot of discussion with different teams, the bottom line is we had one legitimate offer for Evander and that’s why we worked off of it with San Jose.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 1:38 PM ET
so you don’t think all his trade insider buddies don’t talk I mean they’re all best friends
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Ultimately it rests on what you believe to be true. The best you can do is hear it from the GM's mouth, and he has no reason to lie.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 27 @ 1:40 PM ET
Ultimately it rests on what you believe to be true. The best you can do is hear it from the GM's mouth, and he has no reason to lie.
- TheSabresTaco


That is true .. but we all have denied trade request in Fantasy and then we kick ourself saying Man we should’ve took that


I’m thinking what happened there Vancouver offered him the first pic and his head was saying OK maybe I can get more than this and he took a risk
Alex the Great
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2018

Feb 27 @ 1:42 PM ET
Does anybody believe our insiders on here anymore? It amazes me anyone ever did. All the buzz from real insiders were saying we wouldn’t get much.

Our guys kept saying we would, even as recent as midway through yesterday. Totally wrong.

They might have sources but they seem as reliable as ek. Got my hope up for nothing.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 1:43 PM ET
That is true .. but we all have denied trade request in Fantasy and then we kick ourself saying Man we should’ve took that


I’m thinking what happened there Vancouver offered him the first pic and his head was saying OK maybe I can get more than this and he took a risk

- GERBE!!!75PTS


I won't let you bring fantasy sports into this discussion.

You heard it this morning on wgr. "No one wanted to make moves because they weren't sure where they would be by the deadline." Again, take it or leave it, but he has no reason to lie.

If Jim Benning goes publicly and says 'I offered 1 or 2 unconditional first round picks for Evander months ago (or at the TDL)" I will drink kale shakes and eat cauliflower pancakes for an entire day.
Alex the Great
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2018

Feb 27 @ 1:45 PM ET
I'm a sabres fan that posted the same thing about evander and his character issues holding him back from having any real value.

I got this in return:

I'm sure you caused trouble when you were his age.

Faulk yelling at Kane has nothing to do with his value.

He has only caused 1 issue since he was here in buffalo (even though there are plenty of documented issues)

I was accused of being a rasist for not liking kane

I was told I do not "know how to watch hockey" if i didnt think kane was GREAT

I was told his value was UP

I was told jbotts turned down (2) 1st round picks

I was told the sabres were going to extend him, and it was close in talks.

I was told he is the best sabre, better then eichel

I was told he was an all star snub


Kane is slightly above average. He's a Richard head. Good riddance. He's not going to get us a 1st either.

- Boss34




Appears you were right. I knew I shouldn’t have believed the guys with fake sources always bullying everyone else with other info.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 1:46 PM ET
Appears you were right. I knew I shouldn’t have believed the guys with fake sources always bullying everyone else with other info.
- Alex the Great


No one on the planet said Kane was better than Eichel.

But regarding this post. Come on man. There's no need.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Feb 27 @ 1:47 PM ET
so you don’t think all his trade insider buddies don’t talk I mean they’re all best friends
- GERBE!!!75PTS



Know who nailed the return, that one guy on twitter at the beginning of day people said was just driving traffic to his page. Forgot his name, someone on here will remember. He said second and and prospect I believe. I should follow him.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 1:49 PM ET
Know who nailed the return, that one guy on twitter at the beginning of day people said was just driving traffic to his page. Forgot his name, someone on here will remember. He said second and and prospect I believe. I should follow him.
- Fattony1187


Wasn't it that pizza guy
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 27 @ 1:50 PM ET
Does anybody believe our insiders on here anymore? It amazes me anyone ever did. All the buzz from real insiders were saying we wouldn’t get much.

Our guys kept saying we would, even as recent as midway through yesterday. Totally wrong.

They might have sources but they seem as reliable as ek. Got my hope up for nothing.

- Alex the Great


Meh it’s still a fun day till the end
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 27 @ 1:51 PM ET
That is true .. but we all have denied trade request in Fantasy and then we kick ourself saying Man we should’ve took that


I’m thinking what happened there Vancouver offered him the first pic and his head was saying OK maybe I can get more than this and he took a risk

- GERBE!!!75PTS

i don't understand why Vancouver would buy?
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Feb 27 @ 1:51 PM ET
Wasn't it that pizza guy
- TheSabresTaco



John shannon??? Never heard of him till yesterday. Nailed it though
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 27 @ 1:51 PM ET
I won't let you bring fantasy sports into this discussion.

You heard it this morning on wgr. "No one wanted to make moves because they weren't sure where they would be by the deadline." Again, take it or leave it, but he has no reason to lie.

If Jim Benning goes publicly and says 'I offered 1 or 2 unconditional first round picks for Evander months ago (or at the TDL)" I will drink kale shakes and eat cauliflower pancakes for an entire day.

- TheSabresTaco



A week 😊

And I will eat anything you want if Lebrun Is full of bs
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 27 @ 1:52 PM ET
Appears you were right. I knew I shouldn’t have believed the guys with fake sources always bullying everyone else with other info.
- Alex the Great

what do you know about concrete?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 27 @ 1:52 PM ET
I will say this about Kane
Kane scored 68 goals in his 196 games

if you are scoring at a .35 goal per game average, you are not slightly above average



average is your blah player putting up 10 goals a season
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Feb 27 @ 1:52 PM ET
i don't understand why Vancouver would buy?
- IndianaSabresFan



Maybe at beginning of year. No need to trade at 1st yesterday for him. He’s prob going there for free in summer.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Feb 27 @ 1:55 PM ET
I will say this about Kane
Kane scored 68 goals in his 196 games

if you are scoring at a .35 goal per game average, you are not slightly above average



average is your blah player putting up 10 goals a season

- homiedclown



That’s 28.7 goals per 82 games. That’s pretty solid. Not a lot of assists but also not a lot of finishers on this team other then jack. And he has not scored 60pts yet in 3 seasons and has been more injury prone then kane
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 27 @ 1:56 PM ET
I will say this about Kane
Kane scored 68 goals in his 196 games

if you are scoring at a .35 goal per game average, you are not slightly above average




average is your blah player putting up 10 goals a season

- homiedclown


you sure changed your tune on Kane
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 27 @ 1:56 PM ET
Maybe at beginning of year. No need to trade at 1st yesterday for him. He’s prob going there for free in summer.
- Fattony1187

if thats the case, i don't necessarily blame him for not jumping at it. there was no reason to believe he couldn't have gotten more
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Feb 27 @ 1:57 PM ET
Does anybody believe our insiders on here anymore? It amazes me anyone ever did. All the buzz from real insiders were saying we wouldn’t get much.

Our guys kept saying we would, even as recent as midway through yesterday. Totally wrong.

They might have sources but they seem as reliable as ek. Got my hope up for nothing.

- Alex the Great



This is a joke right? You honestly believed that there was some big magic return for players on a 29th ranked team?

We're lucky we got what we got.

GMTM Overvalued players.

Also I'm thankful for whatever tidbits the posters give out. Be it, Homie or 89. They don't have to, but they share what they know.

So that I'm thankful for.
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