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Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Feb 23 @ 11:42 PM ET
Will they play Hagelin with Brassard to see if they still have the chemistry that torched the Pens in the past?
- Doogs

Maybe on the PK? Haggo has been too good for Geno.
Rocco115Pitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.05.2014

Feb 23 @ 11:42 PM ET
You can replace Rowney with Simon/Sprong and make that roster gold.
- eNDSo


I wasn't even thinking of those two. I actually just shed a tear with that idea. Would it be crazy to even consider Sprong up there with Crosby, Hornqvist with Malkin, and Rusty going to the "4th" line?

If Rust's chemistry with Malkin is good could you potentially send Hornqvist to the 4th line? Of is that blasphemy?
eNDSo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2016

Feb 23 @ 11:45 PM ET
Trying to understand what Vegas really gets out of this. Why do that much work to help Pitts out. We shall see in the future what kind of favor is in place. Great move by GMJR.
- poisondhearts37


Vegas got Reeves and a 4th rounder for a virtual cap hit? They gave up nothing afaik.

Imagine if they get more opportunity to collect extra draft picks by spending cap space they weren't going to use, I bet they take it. Their owner is clearly the opposite of Ottawa's. Willing to spend money to bolster the team's assets.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Feb 23 @ 11:45 PM ET
I wasn't even thinking of those two. I actually just shed a tear with that idea. Would it be crazy to even consider Sprong up there with Crosby, Hornqvist with Malkin, and Rusty going to the "4th" line?

If Rust's chemistry with Malkin is good could you potentially send Hornqvist to the 4th line? Of is that blasphemy?

- Rocco115Pitt

Total blasphemy. We all know Kane will be a penguin so save some room.
eNDSo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2016

Feb 23 @ 11:49 PM ET
I wasn't even thinking of those two. I actually just shed a tear with that idea. Would it be crazy to even consider Sprong up there with Crosby, Hornqvist with Malkin, and Rusty going to the "4th" line?

If Rust's chemistry with Malkin is good could you potentially send Hornqvist to the 4th line? Of is that blasphemy?

- Rocco115Pitt


I think you have to consider the idea of playing every center at least 15 minutes. And then playing the centers together a few shifts to get Malkin and Crosby up around the 18-20+ they deserve. Let whatever winger is feeling slow that night ride the bench for that.
Rocco115Pitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.05.2014

Feb 23 @ 11:51 PM ET
Total blasphemy. We all know Kane will be a penguin so save some room.
- Barnaby36


What does it take to make that happen? The sheer plethora of forward depth, at this point, makes this seem possible. I don't know if I like the idea of parting with any additional picks though.
Rocco115Pitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.05.2014

Feb 23 @ 11:52 PM ET
I think you have to consider the idea of playing every center at least 15 minutes. And then playing the centers together a few shifts to get Malkin and Crosby up around the 18-20+ they deserve. Let whatever winger is feeling slow that night ride the bench for that.
- eNDSo


acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Feb 24 @ 12:01 AM ET
Will they play Hagelin with Brassard to see if they still have the chemistry that torched the Pens in the past?
- Doogs


I wouldn't want Hagelin to leave Geno's LW right now. Those two have been on fire lately.
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Feb 24 @ 12:08 AM ET
I don’t reccommend changing anything other than pushing Sheehan back to center the 4th and moving Rowney either to the wing or dress #34 he kills penatlies and has a nice 4th line scoring punch. #lethallineup
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 24 @ 12:12 AM ET
Why do I have a bad feeling about more trades?. I think it should be left alone now.
- MattStrat


(frank) that, replace Hunwick.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 24 @ 12:16 AM ET
I gotta say.... As well as Rutherford did a couple of years ago with key trades during the season, he's out-done himself this year. Adding Sheahan, Oleksiak and Brassard while only giving up Cole, Archie and Wilson from the roster is F'n genius.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 24 @ 12:24 AM ET
Love this...

When asked why the Penguins went after Brassard, Rutherford deadpanned, “Why not? Have you seen him play?”
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Feb 24 @ 12:30 AM ET
wtf.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Feb 24 @ 12:52 AM ET
I'm fine if JR doesn't go after another forward. I would like to see if he can get a defenseman.
so_buzz11
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Home, PA
Joined: 05.14.2015

Feb 24 @ 1:02 AM ET
I'm fine if JR doesn't go after another forward. I would like to see if he can get a defenseman.
- acdc1206

GMJR knows he needs another Dman.

It might be a 6/7th D, but that is really what the Pens need.

Pens are a much better team, we will see what happens!
cygnus41
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.23.2012

Feb 24 @ 1:29 AM ET
This is the best forward depth since 2013 I reckon. And Sully isn't going to Bylsma it all up.

ZAR - Crosby - Horny
Hagelin - Malkin - Rust
Guentzel - Brassard - Kessel
Simon - Sheahan - Sheary

vs

Dupuis - Crosby - Iginla
Kunitz - Malkin - Neal (when they were ridiculous)
Cooke - Jokinen - Kennedy
Morrow - Sutter- Bennett

Centre depth is definitely better, but man there were a lot of potential goals there in 2013 had Bylsma not Bylsma'd and Morrow not broken his knee.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Feb 24 @ 1:35 AM ET
I think you have to consider the idea of playing every center at least 15 minutes. And then playing the centers together a few shifts to get Malkin and Crosby up around the 18-20+ they deserve. Let whatever winger is feeling slow that night ride the bench for that.
- eNDSo

I doubt it. Probably 17-18 minutes for Sid and Geno, roughly 14-15 for Brassard, 9-12 for Sheahan which includes PK
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Feb 24 @ 1:39 AM ET
Seems like most aren’t too concerned about the gap in play between Hunwick and Cole. The trade is a huge win, no arguing that-
Just wish we didn’t have to create a hole to make it work. Like, why couldn’t Sheary have gone to Vegas with Vegas sending a pick to Ottawa? Cole, you’ll be missed
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Feb 24 @ 1:57 AM ET
I wonder if Chayka would be interested in a Sheary/Hunwick/Pick swap for Hjalmarsson. Wouldn’t be a high pick, but something. In my mind, something like that just send something us over the top
eNDSo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2016

Feb 24 @ 2:19 AM ET
I doubt it. Probably 17-18 minutes for Sid and Geno, roughly 14-15 for Brassard, 9-12 for Sheahan which includes PK
- WSCTeton17


Per Hockey-reference this season.
20:50 Crosby
18:49 Malkin
18:21 Brassard
14:51 Sheahan
71:71 minutes of centers on the ice.

I feel like those top 3 deserve to stay there, but it would be pretty strange to only play Sheahan 4 minutes a game. Means you should shift them together sometimes, unless you think Sheahan is worse than your bottom line wingers (and deserves 4 minutes per game).
Mikewatchman
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.16.2016

Feb 24 @ 4:27 AM ET
This is the best forward depth since 2013 I reckon. And Sully isn't going to Bylsma it all up.

ZAR - Crosby - Horny
Hagelin - Malkin - Rust
Guentzel - Brassard - Kessel
Simon - Sheahan - Sheary

vs

Dupuis - Crosby - Iginla
Kunitz - Malkin - Neal (when they were ridiculous)
Cooke - Jokinen - Kennedy
Morrow - Sutter- Bennett

Centre depth is definitely better, but man there were a lot of potential goals there in 2013 had Bylsma not Bylsma'd and Morrow not broken his knee.

- cygnus41


Well i don't think they'll play both ZAR and Hornqvist with Sid, seems stupid as both are pretty much doing the same thing.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 24 @ 5:17 AM ET
Seems like most aren’t too concerned about the gap in play between Hunwick and Cole. The trade is a huge win, no arguing that-
Just wish we didn’t have to create a hole to make it work. Like, why couldn’t Sheary have gone to Vegas with Vegas sending a pick to Ottawa? Cole, you’ll be missed

- WSCTeton17

I mean last year we won without Letang and Ron freaking Hainsey in the top pair lol. Sure would be nice to move hunwick for a better D though
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 24 @ 6:10 AM ET
Maybe on the PK? Haggo has been too good for Geno.
- Barnaby36


'Haggo'?

Wtf?
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Feb 24 @ 6:16 AM ET
I mean last year we won without Letang and Ron freaking Hainsey in the top pair lol. Sure would be nice to move hunwick for a better D though
- 668710

Add a D-man with prospect + pick and be done with it. No reason to spend much.

Sheary + 2nd for Kane should be a no brainer.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Feb 24 @ 6:18 AM ET
'Haggo'?

Wtf?

- Aussiepenguin

Our version of Jacko haha

Pretty happy with the Brassard acquisition. Kane would be deadly!

Pack Sheary's ass and the pick to Buffalo already
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