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jochfr
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Feb 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
Craig Custance
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Hearing that third teams with cap space are now getting involved in Erik Karlsson trade talks to help facilitate a potential trade. Makes sense, especially if Bobby Ryan contract is involved and contenders don't have room for it.
TheSabresTaco
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Feb 23 @ 1:39 PM ET
It's really sounding like Karlsson is 100% being traded between now and this OS
jochfr
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Feb 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
It's really sounding like Karlsson is 100% being traded between now and this OS
- TheSabresTaco

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sbroads24
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Feb 23 @ 1:43 PM ET
It's really sounding like Karlsson is 100% being traded between now and this OS
- TheSabresTaco

Tampa is never going to lose if they get him
jdfitz77
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Feb 23 @ 1:43 PM ET
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Antti Niemi's numbers with the Canadiens are now: 9 GP, 7 GS, 3-2-1, 2.58 GAA, .922 save percentage.

- jochfr


He’s been good for stretches before
Somewhat streaky
jdfitz77
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Feb 23 @ 1:46 PM ET
Craig Custance
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Hearing that third teams with cap space are now getting involved in Erik Karlsson trade talks to help facilitate a potential trade. Makes sense, especially if Bobby Ryan contract is involved and contenders don't have room for it.

- jochfr


Not too many teams have that kinda Cap room
What is it combined?
Like 13mil+ i think
TheSabresTaco
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Feb 23 @ 1:47 PM ET
Tampa is never going to lose if they get him
- sbroads24


Watch, they give up like a 1st and Sustr, somehow.
TheSabresTaco
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Feb 23 @ 1:47 PM ET
Not too many teams have that kinda Cap room
What is it combined?
Like 13mil+ i think

- jdfitz77


You need auxiliary teams to join in on the fun. Enter Arizona.
jochfr
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Feb 23 @ 1:48 PM ET
You need auxiliary teams to join in on the fun. Enter Arizona.
- TheSabresTaco

Jersey? I heard they have a poop ton of cap space... I'm too lazy to look.
Shadman306
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Feb 23 @ 1:50 PM ET
You need auxiliary teams to join in on the fun. Enter Arizona.
- TheSabresTaco


If only one of our GMs didnt rush a rebuild by signing bringing in high contracts...

we could all be speculating about how he could come here only to have him choose anywhere else but buffalo
TheSabresTaco
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Feb 23 @ 1:50 PM ET
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Derick Brassard....The Ottawa Senators don’t like you anymore...#PackYourpoop and don’t forget your jacket...Winnipeg awaits. #Insiderrr
TheSabresTaco
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Feb 23 @ 1:52 PM ET
If only one of our GMs didnt rush a rebuild by signing bringing in high contracts...

we could all be speculating about how he could come here only to have him choose anywhere else but buffalo

- Shadman306


He doesn't have a NTC. I would assume in a scenario like this, agents would work out terms of an extension, or there would be some serious conditional picks in the deal. Sign Carlson to 7. He's pretty good. You can do it if you BO Bogo (and fill the left side with a winger like JVR in FA)
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Feb 23 @ 1:56 PM ET
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Derick Brassard....The Ottawa Senators don’t like you anymore...#PackYourpoop and don’t forget your jacket...Winnipeg awaits. #Insiderrr

- TheSabresTaco



If melnyk doesn't want to pay Bobby Ryan for the next 12 years, I'll take him and Hoffman for Pominville, Moulson and a 2nd.

C'mon melnyk, you'll save so much money
TheSabresTaco
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Feb 23 @ 1:59 PM ET
If melnyk doesn't want to pay Bobby Ryan for the next 12 years, I'll take him and Hoffman for Pominville, Moulson and a 2nd.

C'mon melnyk, you'll save so much money

- jcragcrumple


yeesh. Throw Bogo in there and give us the 2nd and I'd think about it
jcragcrumple
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Feb 23 @ 2:04 PM ET
yeesh. Throw Bogo in there and give us the 2nd and I'd think about it
- TheSabresTaco



Moulson, Bogo and a 2nd

For

Ryan, Hoffman and a 3rd?

Hoffman is valuable
TheSabresTaco
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Feb 23 @ 2:11 PM ET
Moulson, Bogo and a 2nd

For

Ryan, Hoffman and a 3rd?

Hoffman is valuable

- jcragcrumple


And Ryan is anti-valuable. That contract is now the worst in the NHL now that Dion's has been reduced to 5M
jdfitz77
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Feb 23 @ 2:14 PM ET
If melnyk doesn't want to pay Bobby Ryan for the next 12 years, I'll take him and Hoffman for Pominville, Moulson and a 2nd.

C'mon melnyk, you'll save so much money

- jcragcrumple


Interesting idea
How long is that Bobby Ryan contract though?
It’s pretty brutal if i remember correctly
dadeadhead
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Feb 23 @ 2:19 PM ET
Interesting idea
How long is that Bobby Ryan contract though?
It’s pretty brutal if i remember correctly

- jdfitz77



4 more at 7.5
jcragcrumple
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Feb 23 @ 2:21 PM ET
Interesting idea
How long is that Bobby Ryan contract though?
It’s pretty brutal if i remember correctly

- jdfitz77


It runs through 2022

Hoffman -eichel-okposo
Mitts-ROR-Baptiste
Smith/Bailey-FA-Ryan
Wilson-Erod-Pommer

Bogo & Moulson going the other way and Reinhart traded for D help.
Lunaion
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Feb 23 @ 2:27 PM ET
He doesn't have a NTC. I would assume in a scenario like this, agents would work out terms of an extension, or there would be some serious conditional picks in the deal. Sign Carlson to 7. He's pretty good. You can do it if you BO Bogo (and fill the left side with a winger like JVR in FA)
- TheSabresTaco


Puts us well over the cap. There's not as much room as you'd think.
TheSabresTaco
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Feb 23 @ 2:29 PM ET
Puts us well over the cap. There's not as much room as you'd think.
- Lunaion


I modeled it on capfriendly. It definitely doesn't. BO Bogo, Carlson at 7, JVR at 5, Reinhart at 3.5, bring up Guhle, CJ Smith and Fasching for 800 thou, sign Nelson for 8 or 900
TheSabresTaco
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Feb 23 @ 2:34 PM ET
Brassard is headed to Pit.
Lunaion
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Feb 23 @ 2:34 PM ET
I modeled it on capfriendly. It definitely doesn't. BO Bogo, Carlson at 7, JVR at 5, Reinhart at 3.5, bring up Guhle, CJ Smith and Fasching for 800 thou, sign Nelson for 8 or 900
- TheSabresTaco


Right, you're really low on those numbers. Not sure what you're doing on goalies, etc. It's optimistic.
TheSabresTaco
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Feb 23 @ 2:36 PM ET
Right, you're really low on those numbers. Not sure what you're doing on goalies, etc. It's optimistic.
- Lunaion


Ullmark and a backup.

How are those numbers low? Reinhart on a 2 year bridge? JVR approaching 30 as a top 6 winger? Carlson maybe gets more, but definitely not much.

And if you're referring to the AHL callups.......

Those numbers are definitely not "low".

It's optimistic to get Carlson. That i agree with. All my post needed to show was that it was possible.
Stripes77
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Feb 23 @ 2:38 PM ET
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Brassard to Pittsburgh for a 1st, goalie Gustavsson and other cap related elements.
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