lol he's a pipe dream but if the Hawks sell Anisimov and Keith, a top 3 pick might be possible
- EnzoD

Man you're giving Stan Bowman way too much credit to be creative here.
When he shows us a true hockey trade involving key people, it'll be a giant leap.
Let's hope he doesn't get fleeced again.

You lose me when you say this, why because Q has some agenda besides winning the Stanley Cup? If anything the ego you may believe you see is confidence/ validation that his formula/ style/ brand of hockey wins Stanley Cups with 2 different style teams. It all starts in the defensive zone for Q and he sees past all these fancy stats. I guess we will agree to disagree on this one but if I were running the ship its up to Q if he wants to continue.
- BetweenTheDots

Yes U may be right .He wants to win a cup ,but I think he wants to show he don't need Stan or his old man to lead the way .

Thanks for the link, Bogi.

Of course, it’s worth noting that the Penguins, Bruins and Kings all fired their Stanley Cup-winning head coach during those down years —
- Mr Ricochet

AND the GM......

AND the GM......
- EnzoD

Indeed, that got past me. Fresh eyes, no loyalties or biases.

Indeed, that got past me. Fresh eyes, no loyalties or biases.
- Mr Ricochet

Lazarus is a Hawks' lackey so the omission of the fact that not only the Coach was fired but the GM as well in all 3 situations tells me that Bowman's job is (wrongfully IMO) safe, but Q will get the axe this summer. Just my assumption, and I hope I'm wrong. I think the best thing for this franchise is, as you said, new management (coach + GM) with no loyalties or biases in making tough decisions on roster/lineup moves/trades to get this team back into contention sooner rather than later.

This way out of left field but oh well say mcdough and wirtz decided to take off their blinders as far as the bowman's and Q and clean house completely. Would OLYCK give up his NBC duties considering what he going through and say I want to be the GM of the hawks so he not traveling all the time and yes I know gm do travel but rely on their scouts a lot. He has great knowledge of the league and players would that scenario be to far fetched.

AND the GM......
- EnzoD

Let's pump the brakes

Let's pump the brakes
- Stan_Bowman

You better freshen up that Resume. Shouldn't take too long. Here's what I'm guessing your resume looks like so far.....

Scotty Bowman's son
Notre Dame Business School
Scotty Bowman's Son
Assistant GM of the Chicago Blackhawks
Scotty Bowman's son
GM of the Chicago Blackhawks

You better freshen up that Resume. Shouldn't take too long. Here's what I'm guessing your resume looks like so far.....

Scotty Bowman's son
Notre Dame Business School
Scotty Bowman's Son
Assistant GM of the Chicago Blackhawks
Scotty Bowman's son
GM of the Chicago Blackhawks
- EnzoD

You forgot avid geode collector

Can posters just stop make-believe trading Hartman in lousy deals. Hartman isn’t going anywhere. For sure other teams want him. The only way that Hartman is involved in a trade is if the trade is really a special one. Hartman and a draft choice for Shaw and a draft choice? NEVER happening. Not close to being a special trade. Hawks are not going to go after Shaw. If the Hawks thought he was worth what Montreal signed him for the Hawks would have signed him themselves. Also Shaw has regressed not matured in Montreal.

Stan keeps bringing over European players instead of drafting and developing North American born players. As long as he is the GM this will continue to go on and on and on.
- scott.jackson

Bringing over free-agent Europeans is a great strategy. We traded Panarin, who was just a free-agent signing, for Saad. SikuRa is by no means a saviour - we don’t even really know if he can play. Posters always bring up Kevin Hayes as if he’s torn the NHL up - he hasn’t.

Watch Stan trade him this summer....
- BGKarras

Yep. I would like him on the Kings.

Yep. I would like him on the Kings.
- KINGS67

Ahh....NOOOOO.....

Can posters just stop make-believe trading Hartman in lousy deals. Hartman isn’t going anywhere. For sure other teams want him. The only way that Hartman is involved in a trade is if the trade is really a special one. Hartman and a draft choice for Shaw and a draft choice? NEVER happening. Not close to being a special trade. Hawks are not going to go after Shaw. If the Hawks thought he was worth what Montreal signed him for the Hawks would have signed him themselves. Also Shaw has regressed not matured in Montreal.
- Z3Hawk

He has taken a lot of abuse. Do you know how bad is the back? This is a player who can play the way we all cherished when he was here, but he can only do it in spurts within a game, or a few games. On a few occassions throughout a season and at times in a playoff. He has mileage on him although still not old. He is not going to have a long career, at least not if his salary is appreciable - who can afford a part time player

Instead do place great value on Hartman. Keep him. If he is traded, only for a power forward. Because a power
forward is of greater value.

He has taken a lot of abuse. Do you know how bad is the back? This is a player who can play the way we all cherished when he was here, but he can only do it in spurts within a game, or a few games. On a few occassions throughout a season and at times in a playoff. He has mileage on him although still not old. He is not going to have a long career, at least not if his salary is appreciable - who can afford a part time player


Instead do place great value on Hartman. Keep him. If he is traded, only for a power forward. Because a power
forward is of greater value.
- jhawk59

What kind of package would it take to pry simmonds out of phily surprising contract extension talks have not been discussed yet.
Hartman + + +

Thanks for the link, Bogi.

Of course, it’s worth noting that the Penguins, Bruins and Kings all fired their Stanley Cup-winning head coach during those down years —
- Mr Ricochet

The Penguins gave Bylsma and the gm every chance to rebuild and right the ship. Kings and Bruins pushed the panic button, truly don't believe either team will be back to the dance anytime soon.

Really surprised Cooper and Yzerman didn't get canned last year, obviously Cooper had an agenda to show up Yzerman, that's why they didn't make the playoffs last year.

This way out of left field but oh well say mcdough and wirtz decided to take off their blinders as far as the bowman's and Q and clean house completely. Would OLYCK give up his NBC duties considering what he going through and say I want to be the GM of the hawks so he not traveling all the time and yes I know gm do travel but rely on their scouts a lot. He has great knowledge of the league and players would that scenario be to far fetched.
- Scott1977

Olczyk has bigger life issues in front of him, there is no way he would even accept the job.

Yes U may be right .He wants to win a cup ,but I think he wants to show he don't need Stan or his old man to lead the way .
- oldduffman

So while coaching the team which is a full time job he wants to be in charge of draft picks, free agent signings, scouting deal with McDonough etc etc etc, hmmmm, hmmm (my best slingblade voice)

The Penguins gave Bylsma and the gm every chance to rebuild and right the ship. Kings and Bruins pushed the panic button, truly don't believe either team will be back to the dance anytime soon.

Really surprised Cooper and Yzerman didn't get canned last year, obviously Cooper had an agenda to show up Yzerman, that's why they didn't make the playoffs last year.
- BetweenTheDots

Bruins could be the best team in the East right now -

Kings a bubble team

Hawks need four things
1- A big tough Center
2- A DMan to replace Seabrook
3- A Healthy Crawford or a new face
4- A GM & Coach working as one

Bruins could be the best team in the East right now -

Kings a bubble team

Hawks need four things
1- A big tough Center
2- A DMan to replace Seabrook
3- A Healthy Crawford or a new face
4- A GM & Coach working as one
- Colbyboy

Hell I would of fired him for trading Seguin away to.

Bruins are pretenders this year

The Penguins gave Bylsma and the gm every chance to rebuild and right the ship. Kings and Bruins pushed the panic button, truly don't believe either team will be back to the dance anytime soon.

Really surprised Cooper and Yzerman didn't get canned last year, obviously Cooper had an agenda to show up Yzerman, that's why they didn't make the playoffs last year.
- BetweenTheDots

It is a great point and I'm sure the Hawks FO realize that you can't just change over half the roster and expect everything will be problem free. Fans tend to overreact to the short term but they need to look at the long term more often.

The assumption is that changing coach or GM will help the team, but it is just as likely to hurt the team. If they fire Q, how many coaches would they go through to get the right fit? There are a handful of coaches (like Q) who seem to be successful where ever they go, but are any of those guys lined up to take over? It is more likely the Hawks would end up with someone who is more of an unknown.

Olczyk has bigger life issues in front of him, there is no way he would even accept the job.
- BetweenTheDots

I agree just through it out there but going through something like that need mind to focus on something else to get through the hard days
Ok maybe not a gm but a consultant someone with bigger picture that looks at everything and puts input in and suggestions. Going through what he is going through the mind can mess with you ways you can t understand even with support and love from family and friends.

So while coaching the team which is a full time job he wants to be in charge of draft picks, free agent signings, scouting deal with McDonough etc etc etc, hmmmm, hmmm (my best slingblade voice)
- BetweenTheDots

I am not sure he wants to do that , that is why I think he should be kicked upstairs for the remainder of his contract so he can see what Stan deals with day to day .. I think he feels Stan and Scotty get to much credit for the teams success ,and when they bring in players he get's his back up . Only MO .. could be completely off base . But there sure is a big divide between the coach and GM and that cannot be allowed to continue

I am not sure he wants to do that , that is why I think he should be kicked upstairs for the remainder of his contract so he can see what Stan deals with day to day .. I think he feels Stan and Scotty get to much credit for the teams success ,and when they bring in players he get's his back up . Only MO .. could be completely off base . But there sure is a big divide between the coach and GM and that cannot be allowed to continue
- oldduffman

I really think if he felt that way he would of never bounced line up ideas over with Scotty every year they've been in the playoffs? This is a fact btw something Q has casually mentioned in interviews

I also think the great divide is Bowman does his best to get guys to help the team, and coach Q coaches the team and really doesn't pick favourites, which in the long run is good for the team, example would be Vermette, he got the press box treatment with Q and in the long run the Blackhawks win the SC and Vermette was a key contributor.

I agree just through it out there but going through something like that need mind to focus on something else to get through the hard days
Ok maybe not a gm but a consultant someone with bigger picture that looks at everything and puts input in and suggestions. Going through what he is going through the mind can mess with you ways you can t understand even with support and love from family and friends.
- Scott1977

Besides how will he be able to plug hair club for men🤣