Unlocked story of Boeser for those interested:

https://theathletic.com/2...-perfect-spot-in-the-nhl/
- WhiteLie

"We were a middle income family, other kids had 800 dollar skates he had 400"

Seems like a good kid though, thanks for the share.

I agree I'd rather see the individual rankings but scouts won't share information if he leaks teams draft lists. I wish!
- CanuckDon

http://www.mynhldraft.com...t/2018-nhl-draft-rankings

you asked. 12 different rankings.

Did you just find an article from 2005? about a draft in 2000? 18 years ago?

I'm not a Button fan. I just see what Button is saying.

Wait a second, are you saying a professional scout is not very good?
- manvanfan

I'm sayign Craig Button as GM drafted some of the worst picks in the history of the NHL as a GM. So yes, I'm saying some scouts aren't very good. But when you get a panel of scouts together, who collectively make decisions on who is the best, I trust that.

I'm sayign Craig Button as GM drafted some of the worst picks in the history of the NHL as a GM. So yes, I'm saying some scouts aren't very good. But when you get a panel of scouts together, who collectively make decisions on who is the best, I trust that.
- neem55

So Bob's list.

Didn't Button have JV in the second round in his mock draft? I remember that being mentioned. Yeah he didn't have JV in the first round but had Brayden Point at 17. There are 210 picks, I think some get some picks right and others gets different ones. It's hard.

Unlocked story of Boeser for those interested:

https://theathletic.com/2...-perfect-spot-in-the-nhl/
- WhiteLie

great read!

If your picking a player with "size" over Boqvist, I would prefer someone who uses that size. Dobson over Bouchard.
- manvanfan

Bouchard is more offensive it appears and that's what we need most. I like Dobson as well.

So Bob's list.

Didn't Button have JV in the second round in his mock draft? I remember that being mentioned. Yeah he didn't have JV in the first round but had Brayden Point at 17. There are 210 picks, I think some get some picks right and others gets different ones. It's hard.
- manvanfan

It's very hard. People forget pretty quickly that Button was in large part responsible for building that Flames club that went to the 2004 cup final and were screwed by Bettman. So the guy can't be a complete idiot.

So Bob's list.

Didn't Button have JV in the second round in his mock draft? I remember that being mentioned. Yeah he didn't have JV in the first round but had Brayden Point at 17. There are 210 picks, I think some get some picks right and others gets different ones. It's hard.
- manvanfan

I'm not trying to simplify it, I agree it's very difficult. But his draft record as a GM speak for itself, none of his picks played much hockey.

It's very hard. People forget pretty quickly that Button was in large part responsible for building that Flames club that went to the 2004 cup final and were screwed by Bettman. So the guy can't be a complete idiot.
- LordHumungous

He wasn't though, He inherited all of it. Here's a list of all of his trades, which player make him a "large part"? http://www.nhltradetracke...st_by_GM/Craig_Button/164

I did say "post draft rankings". The guy acknowledged that Vilardi is slow and hasnt played much this year but still believes in his skill/vision to come through. He frequently mentioned that some players are just his guys and will sink or swim supporting them. I think he'll be wrong to have Vilardi that high, but I dont think his goalie rankings were wrong.

For every list that Pronman, Bob Mac, Button, ISS, etc. produce, there will be players over ranked and under ranked
- WhiteLie

All those lists don't matter, it's the Canuck's list that matters.

Bouchard is more offensive it appears and that's what we need most. I like Dobson as well.
- CanuckDon

Personally it's pretty neck and neck. Dobson is slightly younger. Bouchard slightly higher PPG. Dobson plays more physical. Bouchard higher hockey IQ. Skating pretty equal.

I think I like Dobson just a bit more because of OJ out of London. Slightly worried

Still think OJ is going to be an NHL regular but a slight worry.

No - that is his current ranking. He has Pettersson at 10 and Demko as the fith best goalie as of 2 weeks ago. He is a biased hack with no credibitliy.

Edit: you did say pre or post. He is still trash!
- CanuckDon

I can buy being upset with his ranking of Petersson, but it's hard to realistically put Demko ahead of those goalies other than Hart. And what Hart is doing is pretty incredible.

I can buy being upset with his ranking of Petersson, but it's hard to realistically put Demko ahead of those goalies other than Hart. And what Hart is doing is pretty incredible.
- belcherbd

Who were the goalies ranked ahead of Demko? I haven't seen the list.

It's a meta-list. He makes judgement calls in certain area's. For example, Merkely is way down on the central scouting list. Bottom-line though is that Bob's list usually ends up being one of the better if not the best every year.
- neem55

Bob's lists end up being very close to the actual order of picks but I wouldn't say it is best at evaluating which prospects are best.

I can't remember who right now did a look back at the main ranking sites and showed that the CSS rankings were the most effective. Showing them out perform every team's drafting record over a 5 year period iirc.

Bouchard's goals this year.

https://youtu.be/ExGfQNB2DKw

13 points out of a playoff spot



11 points out of last place

Bouchard's goals this year.

https://youtu.be/ExGfQNB2DKw
- belcherbd

Who were the goalies ranked ahead of Demko? I haven't seen the list.
- manvanfan

3 KHL starters Samsonov, Sorokin, Shesterkin and Hart.

13 points out of a playoff spot



11 points out of last place
- Nucker101

Playoffs

Bob's lists end up being very close to the actual order of picks but I wouldn't say it is best at evaluating which prospects are best.

I can't remember who right now did a look back at the main ranking sites and showed that the CSS rankings were the most effective. Showing them out perform every team's drafting record over a 5 year period iirc.
- belcherbd

https://canucksarmy.com/2...-2017-nhl-draft-rankings/

After last night, I'm pretty happy to have four days without Canucks hockey!

New blog is up, also featuring some All-Star and Olympic notes:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...-time-by-Sabres/194/90584

Personally it's pretty neck and neck. Dobson is slightly younger. Bouchard slightly higher PPG. Dobson plays more physical. Bouchard higher hockey IQ. Skating pretty equal.

I think I like Dobson just a bit more because of OJ out of London. Slightly worried

Still think OJ is going to be an NHL regular but a slight worry.
- manvanfan

Trade our 1st next year and draft them both

13 points out of a playoff spot



11 points out of last place
- Nucker101

The more important thing is how many teams to pass in each direction, I.e. which is the easier/more likely path?

3 KHL starters Samsonov, Sorokin, Shesterkin and Hart.
- belcherbd

I agree with you, the EP ranking is a joke imo, but the Demko one is at least reasonable. Just depends on how you view starting in the KHL vs AHL.

The more important thing is how many teams to pass in each direction, I.e. which is the easier/more likely path?
- 1970vintage

That’s even worse lol

5 teams between the Canucks and the last wildcard

Only the coyotes are lower in the standings in the west