Wow used to think you were a some what intelligent poster. Obviously you've never coached or maybe even played sports higher than rec. if it's not the coaches job to motivate the players than whose is it?
Just watching Glens post game interview, to me he looks frustrated, unsure, very much like this team. Coaches aren't perfect by no means, but when decisions are made that even the average fan knows are wrong, then changes have to be made. Nothing's happening this year, but I would hope as a management group they will all sit down and talk about it.
- K-man25

The fckin players man!

I'm not here to brag about my hockey accomplishments but I will say I played at a very high levels up through university. I have been on GREAT teams with absolute horses#it coaches, and fcking brutal teams with GREAT coaches.

I've always tried to defend Gully and he seemed like he was turning it around for good by playing some younger guys but I can absolutely not (even for the smallest reason possible) understand why in the frank he not only put Brouwer out as the lone PK forward but also why he left him on 1:30(!!!) into the kill

What kind of NHL coach would think that's a good idea in regulation, let alone in overtime?

Quite heated still
- LittleBroDougie

Fresh guys would not have prevented what happened when that goal was scored. You can female dog about the faceoff thing, it's a valid argument, but ROR is the best faceoff guy in the NHL, you're probably losing that one regardless.

The fckin players man!

I'm not here to brag about my hockey accomplishments but I will say I played at a very high levels up through university. I have been on GREAT teams with absolute horses#it coaches, and fcking brutal teams with GREAT coaches.
- The-O-G

You were the Curtis Lazar of those great teams, don’t lie.

You were the Curtis Lazar of those great teams, don’t lie.
- Nucker101

I hear the Sedins want to play again next year... that should be fun.

You were the Curtis Lazar of those great teams, don’t lie.
- Nucker101

More like Brouwer, PK specialist.

More like Brouwer, PK specialist.
- The-O-G

The fckin players man!

I'm not here to brag about my hockey accomplishments but I will say I played at a very high levels up through university. I have been on GREAT teams with absolute horses#it coaches, and fcking brutal teams with GREAT coaches.
- The-O-G

Not sure you ever had a great coach if you never played for anyone that could inspire his team.
I really wonder what you think a coaches job is if it does not include preparing the team for games.

Not sure you ever had a great coach if you never played for anyone that could inspire his team.
I really wonder what you think a coaches job is if it does not include preparing the team for games.
- Chucky

Look man I get it...it's the coaches job to prepare the team, but it's also up to each and every individual player to properly prepare themselves, and this part is far more important. Whether you like the coach or hate him, whether you have a good coach or a poopty coach, you need to find a way to do your job, and the best players are able to do that no matter what.

Maybe we disagree, but execution is the most important step of all, and that's 95% on the players. We can nitpick GG's decision to keep guys out there and that's OK, but the fact that many of the good players have no-showed the past 2 games, that's on them. The Flames shouldn't even be in OT with the stupid Sabres, and they were lucky to be there thanks to Smith. Maybe if Johnny wasn't boozing watching the Eagles the night before he would have done something last night?

We have points in 9 straight games, last two dropped in extras, one of those in a skills competition.

Why so many sandy vaginas?

We have points in 9 straight games, last two dropped in extras, one of those in a skills competition.

Why so many sandy vaginas?
- Misterbator

Brouwer.

Look man I get it...it's the coaches job to prepare the team, but it's also up to each and every individual player to properly prepare themselves, and this part is far more important. Whether you like the coach or hate him, whether you have a good coach or a poopty coach, you need to find a way to do your job, and the best players are able to do that no matter what.

Maybe we disagree, but execution is the most important step of all, and that's 95% on the players. We can nitpick GG's decision to keep guys out there and that's OK, but the fact that many of the good players have no-showed the past 2 games, that's on them. The Flames shouldn't even be in OT with the stupid Sabres, and they were lucky to be there thanks to Smith. Maybe if Johnny wasn't boozing watching the Eagles the night before he would have done something last night?
- The-O-G

If it were only the last two games then I could agree, but there have been a lot of uninspiring performances in important games this year. That indicates that there is a fundamental skepticism on behalf of the players that they have a good plan to win important games. So I believe that the problem is the coach. I also think that the impact of coaching that fosters a winning attitude and confidence represents significantly more than 5% of performance.

That being said it is incumbent upon the players to prepare themselves and certainly allowing outside diversions to impact performance is unacceptable in team sport and Jonny should have learned that as a kid.

Brouwer.
- Hunkulese

I think its more about GG at this point. Fair or not, the knives are out.

I think its more about GG at this point. Fair or not, the knives are out.
- tincup

Makes sense. Only 16 of the last 18 possible points. Fire the coach.

Makes sense. Only 16 of the last 18 possible points. Fire the coach.
- Hunkulese

We have points in 9 straight games, last two dropped in extras, one of those in a skills competition.

Why so many sandy vaginas?
- Misterbator

Right?

Fresh guys would not have prevented what happened when that goal was scored. You can female dog about the faceoff thing, it's a valid argument, but ROR is the best faceoff guy in the NHL, you're probably losing that one regardless.
- The-O-G

It's the butterfly effect though. He's probably still winning that face-off but not in the exact same manner and that play is most likely not happening the EXACT same way with 3 fresh players out. Maybe Eichel still gets it, maybe the flames spring Backs on a breakaway who knows!

All I'm saying is new players would've likely defended better than the same tired group.

I believe he's a decent coach but Gully definitely makes some questionable calls on player usage that really don't make sense and last night's OT usage was on him for sure.

It's the butterfly effect though. He's probably still winning that face-off but not in the exact same manner and that play is most likely not happening the EXACT same way with 3 fresh players out. Maybe Eichel still gets it, maybe the flames spring Backs on a breakaway who knows!

All I'm saying is new players would've likely defended better than the same tired group.
- LittleBroDougie

Go back and watch the entire OT again. You can complain about whatever else you want, but they definitely were not tired. All you're really doing when you're killing a penalty with 3 guys is try to stay in the lanes. There are long periods where they're pretty much just standing there, and they also got two breaks. Freshness was not a factor. Buffalo had the same group out the entire time and it worked for them.

Go back and watch the entire OT again. You can complain about whatever else you want, but they definitely were not tired. All you're really doing when you're killing a penalty with 3 guys is try to stay in the lanes. There are long periods where they're pretty much just standing there, and they also got two breaks. Freshness was not a factor. Buffalo had the same group out the entire time and it worked for them.
- Hunkulese

Yes, but on a PP you're working far less hard than the PKers despite it being "just about getting in the lanes". There is more emphasis on puck battles and hustle. The forward on the ice is by no means our fittest player and the defense play top line minutes.

End of the day whether it was OT or the first couple minutes of the game, you change at every opportunity if you've played 1:30 on a kill.

Moot point now but it's the little things that will end up deciding games when it really matters down the stretch

Yes, but on a PP you're working far less hard than the PKers despite it being "just about getting in the lanes". There is more emphasis on puck battles and hustle. The forward on the ice is by no means our fittest player and the defense play top line minutes.

End of the day whether it was OT or the first couple minutes of the game, you change at every opportunity if you've played 1:30 on a kill.

Moot point now but it's the little things that will end up deciding games when it really matters down the stretch
- LittleBroDougie

Seriously, watch it again. There were almost no puck battles and very little need for any hustle, plus they had two lengthy breaks. Them being tired wasn't an issue.

Look man I get it...it's the coaches job to prepare the team, but it's also up to each and every individual player to properly prepare themselves, and this part is far more important. Whether you like the coach or hate him, whether you have a good coach or a poopty coach, you need to find a way to do your job, and the best players are able to do that no matter what.

Maybe we disagree, but execution is the most important step of all, and that's 95% on the players. We can nitpick GG's decision to keep guys out there and that's OK, but the fact that many of the good players have no-showed the past 2 games, that's on them. The Flames shouldn't even be in OT with the stupid Sabres, and they were lucky to be there thanks to Smith. Maybe if Johnny wasn't boozing watching the Eagles the night before he would have done something last night?
- The-O-G

This exactly, we have Johnny boozing and we have Monny doing lines of coke

This exactly, we have Johnny boozing and we have Monny doing lines of coke
- Squilliam-

fire the coach, trade gaudreau, trade monahan, (frank) the whole team!

I think there's less hate on Brouw than there is for Gully and deservedly so... His incredibly dumb choice to leave an exhausted PK group out caused that GWG
- LittleBroDougie

I don't even dislike Brouwer that much...I don't blame him for losing a faceoff as a winger at the end of a long shift
it's ok tho guys....GUlly said he asked them and they said they weren't tired. He doesn't make real coaching decisions, he just lets the players stay on for however they like cause its like shinny hockey hour

Fresh guys would not have prevented what happened when that goal was scored. You can female dog about the faceoff thing, it's a valid argument, but ROR is the best faceoff guy in the NHL, you're probably losing that one regardless.
- The-O-G

That's a terrible argument...saying that ROR is the best at faceoffs so we don't even bother to put out a centerman that might have a higher chance?
Yea well, I guess we should not have even taken the draw, sat everyone on the bench at let them play it out 3-0 cause ROR was gonna win it at we had no chance on the play eh?

The coach's job to put the best players, the freshest players that gives us the best chance. Brouwer was NOT IT. Yes even if we won the draw, who knows, they may have gotten it back and scored, but you still have to give your team the best shot at it and having the 3 tired players on the ice and one of the worst faceoff % wingers take a crucial PK draw was ludicrous

as much as I've accepted Brouwer in the role he plays (and he's been playing some good hockey lately), this was a coaching misstep, if you think Gully made the right call, then I really question your hockey IQ

fire the coach, trade gaudreau, trade monahan, (frank) the whole team!
- The-O-G

This times a billion!!! What a joke this team is. Especially that Gulutzen idiot! Can't believe they lost 2 in a row, how dare they.