training wheels wingers?
- bulet13

Basically lol. Raffl has just been a great possession winger his entire career. Patrick has struggle from a possession standpoint thus far, so pairing him with Raffl is ideal Imo.

My take on Patrick is that he is still recovering from the off-season surgeries. He's gotten better but you can see he lacks explosiveness. I'm no doctor but from what I've read Patrick's surgery recovery is similar to the the surgeries ghost and giroux had in 2015.we saw their struggles last year, and Patrick is trying to deal with getting fully healthy while making the huge jump from junior to Nhl. We just need to be patient.

All that said, I don't think Patrick is ready for 2C duties. And he may not be until next year which is fine. He has shown flashes so far of just how special he can be so I'm not really concerned at the moment. Giving Patrick better wingers than Raffl would essentially be asking him to play 2C so that's why I say Raffl is perfect for now

Much better period so far then the first.

Much better period so far then the first.

Basically lol. Raffl has just been a great possession winger his entire career. Patrick has struggle from a possession standpoint thus far, so pairing him with Raffl is ideal Imo.

My take on Patrick is that he is still recovering from the off-season surgeries. He's gotten better but you can see he lacks explosiveness. I'm no doctor but from what I've read Patrick's surgery recovery is similar to the the surgeries ghost and giroux had in 2015.we saw their struggles last year, and Patrick is trying to deal with getting fully healthy while making the huge jump from junior to Nhl. We just need to be patient.

All that said, I don't think Patrick is ready for 2C duties. And he may not be until next year which is fine. He has shown flashes so far of just how special he can be so I'm not really concerned at the moment. Giving Patrick better wingers than Raffl would essentially be asking him to play 2C so that's why I say Raffl is perfect for now
- JFlyers00

They've already replaced him with Weal.

The one thing Patrick has been doing quite well is distributing the puck. Raffl just can't convert good passes into quality scoring chances. It's not a good fit.

PK still sucks honestly Lappy needs to go this is embarrassing

I will hold you
- Giroux_Is_God

Ty our prayers have been answered

Pretty great save on Simmer there.

Konecny

Just got home from work, see that the reports of Neuvirth's demise were premature. What else did I miss?

Just got home from work, see that the reports of Neuvirth's demise were premature. What else did I miss?
- BiggE

Couts 22 goal on PP
Ghost scored with Lehtera getting second assist
And apparently Amac is a legitimate top 4 d man

so nothing unusual

Just got home from work, see that the reports of Neuvirth's demise were premature. What else did I miss?
- BiggE

Coots and G are the best duo since BJ and the Bear.

Ghost doing his thing.

Kind of uneventful otherwise. Things getting a little testy between the whistles.

Just got home from work, see that the reports of Neuvirth's demise were premature. What else did I miss?
- BiggE

Boring first.
Sabers took the lead
GHost with a great shot to tie it.
Giroux with a perfect flip pass to Coots who buried it for the lead.

Couts 22 goal on PP
Ghost scored with Lehtera getting second assist
And apparently Amac is a legitimate top 4 d man

so nothing unusual
- Buzzo

LOL, thanks

Lazy penalty by Amac. He is nothing but a bottom pairing D man.
- Buzzo

Little bit of a weak call there. MacDonald is the only bottom pairing defenseman to average 19-20 minutes a game for like 6 straight seasons.

Glad to see them ahead at least. They have no wiggle room at this point, games like this are must win games.

Little bit of a weak call there. MacDonald is the only bottom pairing defenseman to average 19-20 minutes a game for like 6 straight seasons.
- MJL

That says just as much about the teams he has played on as it does about him.

They've already replaced him with Weal.

The one thing Patrick has been doing quite well is distributing the puck. Raffl just can't convert good passes into quality scoring chances. It's not a good fit.
- hereticpride

Before today's game in the last 15 games, Raffl has been scoring at a 27 goal, 27 assist, 54 point pace. That has been a boost to the Flyers and their need for secondary scoring.

Little bit of a weak call there. MacDonald is the only bottom pairing defenseman to average 19-20 minutes a game for like 6 straight seasons.
- MJL

Not sure how that makes the Flyers look good.

That says just as much about the teams he has played on as it does about him.
- BiggE

What is says is that he is a reliable top 4 NHL defenseman and has been pretty much his entire career.

That says just as much about the teams he has played on as it does about him.
- BiggE

Or the coaches that played him that many minutes lol

What is says is that he is a reliable top 4 NHL defenseman and has been pretty much his entire career.
- MJL

On poopty teams.

Just got home from work, see that the reports of Neuvirth's demise were premature. What else did I miss?
- BiggE

Neuvy look like a starting goalie so far

Or the coaches that played him that many minutes lol
- JFlyers00

Shhh. Let him keep going with it.

What is says is that he is a reliable top 4 NHL defenseman and has been pretty much his entire career.
- MJL

No that is, as you love to say, a false narrative. What it says is that on mediocre bubble teams, he is a solid top 4 Dman. On a top notch contending team, he's skating on the 3rd pair.

Neuvy look like a starting goalie so far
- Landsbergfan

That's good to see, hopefully he can actually get through a game with all body parts intact