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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 5 @ 6:57 PM ET
Sorry I was actually generalizing that statement, for everyone that has a hard time interpreting my post, everyone but Horvat and Boeser Should be on the trading block.

Now seriously, he will not be trading 21 players, but he should be open to trading, keep signing guys like Vanek, Sedins to one year deals that can fill in, while the picks and prospects develop their skills in a development league not named the NHL.

I hope this clarifies the post.

- Makita

Oh I understood. I'm just a wienerhead to people that are like !

The team had made strides this season before all the injuries.

I would hope one day that Van can sell someone every year at the TDL for another pick and that player can be replaced with an AHL player that is near the same quality of the player traded.

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 5 @ 6:58 PM ET
Cassels was the next sure thing third line center for the Canucks on Hockey Buzz in this thread. Same as people here anointing these prospects now. I was the king of anointing the next great prospect on these threads . I learned very few pan out to be NHLers. So until they make the team temper your expectations.
- VANTEL

To be fair, only clueless fans thought this. Anybody that watched Cassels play in junior knew he was trash. He can’t skate! He never could !
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 5 @ 6:59 PM ET
you're right, of course, about adjusting. Can't predict that in advance, so this is the best / simplest model available today. Regardless, 5th pick has the greatest probability, for the 3rd worst team.
- SlightlyOffside

yup, you are correct. But if you take three draws, with adjustments in mind (you used to be able to do it on the simulator, but they changed it) and factor in the likelyhood of winning one 10%, one 15% and one 18% (for example) our chances are a lot better. Either way it's a top 5 pick, so I'll be happy (again).
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 5 @ 6:59 PM ET
Doughty playing 29 minutes a night helps too.
- neem55

LA found a #1 Goalie, a #1 center and a franchise D man in the draft. That's for sure the start of a winning team.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 5 @ 6:59 PM ET
To be fair, only clueless fans thought this. Anybody that watched Cassels play in junior knew he was trash. He can’t skate! He never could !
- CanuckDon

I think he's clubfooted.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 5 @ 7:00 PM ET
Some people have a very difficult time hearing anything remotely negative/realistic about the Canucks. Because I am a hater, I understood exactly what you were getting at.
- Marwood


Sith > Jedi
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 5 @ 7:01 PM ET
LA found a #1 Goalie, a #1 center and a franchise D man in the draft. That's for sure the start of a winning team.
- manvanfan

Yup. Lombardi did a hell of a job building around them, Richards and Carter. Willie, Regehr, Williams, Gabbo... just a lot of very saavy moves. But you got to have those pillars first!
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 5 @ 7:02 PM ET
Sorry I was actually generalizing that statement, for everyone that has a hard time interpreting my post, everyone but Horvat and Boeser Should be on the trading block.

Now seriously, he will not be trading 21 players, but he should be open to trading, keep signing guys like Vanek, Sedins to one year deals that can fill in, while the picks and prospects develop their skills in a development league not named the NHL.

I hope this clarifies the post.

- Makita

I agree with you in that the canucks should be open for business, but i would extend the list of roster players beyond bo and brock. I think Baertschi has more value here than in a trade due to his chemistry with Bo, I think JV is definitely worth hanging on to because his value is much lower than his potential.

I would also add Granlund, Pouliot, and one of either Stecher or Hutton to the list. No sense trading a young developing player off for a draft pick where we will in all likelyhood get someone less talented or equally talented but several years back in development.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 5 @ 7:03 PM ET
I just ran the draft lottery simulator and the Islanders won with Calgary's pick
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 5 @ 7:04 PM ET
I just ran the draft lottery simulator and the Islanders won with Calgary's pick
- A_SteamingLombardi

I got Edmonton and it seemed too real
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 5 @ 7:05 PM ET
I agree with you in that the canucks should be open for business, but i would extend the list of roster players beyond bo and brock. I think Baertschi has more value here than in a trade due to his chemistry with Bo, I think JV is definitely worth hanging on to because his value is much lower than his potential.

I would also add Granlund, Pouliot, and one of either Stecher or Hutton to the list. No sense trading a young developing player off for a draft pick where we will in all likelyhood get someone less talented or equally talented but several years back in development.

- NorthNuck

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 5 @ 7:05 PM ET
If you got offered Duclair for JV straught up would you take that deal? Just curious what others think as i doubt JB would do it and personally think we need JVs size more.
- NorthNuck

No chance
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 5 @ 7:07 PM ET
No chance
- CanuckDon

Im kind of surprised to see not a single person want to make that deal but I'm glad we have a consensus
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 5 @ 7:09 PM ET
Oh I understood. I'm just a wienerhead to people that are like !

The team had made strides this season before all the injuries.

I would hope one day that Van can sell someone every year at the TDL for another pick and that player can be replaced with an AHL player that is near the same quality of the player traded.

- manvanfan

Well alrighty then,

I have really pulled back on posting here lately, but I still read all the posts in Carols blog.

After reading days and days, or should I say week upon week of, Sedins, Benning, Chaput, Sedins, Linden, Benning, Sedins, draft, NHL development, Sedins, Benning, goats, etc. I just thought I'd throw out my thoughts on what I think would be a good system to make the Canucks contenders and not mediocre in a few years.

I didn't think I was , but whatever floats the boat I guess.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 5 @ 7:10 PM ET
Im kind of surprised to see not a single person want to make that deal but I'm glad we have a consensus
- NorthNuck

You just need to word it different, "would you trade Sergachev for JV?"
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 5 @ 7:11 PM ET
Well alrighty then,

I have really pulled back on posting here lately, but I still read all the posts in Carols blog.

After reading days and days, or should I say week upon week of, Sedins, Benning, Chaput, Sedins, Linden, Benning, Sedins, draft, NHL development, Sedins, Benning, goats, etc. I just thought I'd throw out my thoughts on what I think would be a good system to make the Canucks contenders and not mediocre in another 48 years.

I didn't think I was , but whatever floats the boat I guess.

- Makita

Fixed
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 5 @ 7:13 PM ET
Time to pregame at the woodpile.
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Jan 5 @ 7:15 PM ET
You just need to word it different, "would you trade Sergachev for JV?"
- A_SteamingLombardi


I would definitely trade JV to get Sergachev!
Isn't happening, though.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 5 @ 7:17 PM ET
I just ran the draft lottery simulator and the Islanders won with Calgary's pick
- A_SteamingLombardi


I got Van

But it was using Tankathon and they note that their odds and % are a guess.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 5 @ 7:18 PM ET
I think Buffalo has done really well, actually. Unlike the Canucks, they develop their young guys in Rochester (AHL) until they are ready. It takes time, they were/are just a bit behind teams like Toronto in their rebuild. I expect them to push fora playoff spot as soon as next year if they are able to bring in some more d.
- neem55


They have some very good prospects as well.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 5 @ 7:19 PM ET
I just ran the draft lottery simulator and the Islanders won with Calgary's pick
- A_SteamingLombardi


Still hoping JB can grab that pick for their more immediate D needs to satisfy JT in playoffs.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 5 @ 7:20 PM ET
I think he's clubfooted.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Maybe his big balls weigh him down
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Jan 5 @ 7:22 PM ET
Still hoping JB can grab that pick for their more immediate D needs to satisfy JT in playoffs.
- Nuck4U


Tanev + EG --> Islanders
Calgary's pick + Kieiffer Bellows --> Canucks

just the ticket!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 5 @ 7:24 PM ET
Time to pregame at the woodpile.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Who are you cheering for ?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 5 @ 7:24 PM ET
Time to pregame at the woodpile.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Just got back.
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