I thought the same! Surprisingly, it looks like about 15 players have already been claimed through the waiver process this season, most recently:

Freddie Hamilton (by Arizona)
Nathan Walker (Washington...claimed back from Edmonton!)
Ryan Carpenter (Vegas)
Brandon Davidson (Edmonton)
Chris DiDomenico (Ottawa)
Nathan Walker (Edmonton)

I don't think Chaput would be out of place on that list!
- SlightlyOffside

Please someone , anyone take him please please please, we will throw in Chaput too

no one is catching Arizona or even Buffalo for ineptitude this year!!
"best case" is 3rd worst. draft odds for 10A would be something like:

1st -- 10.5%
2nd -- 10.5%
3rd -- 10.5%
4th -- 12.5%
5th -- 39.1%
6th -- 17.5%

...though 2nd rounds onward we would be drafting 3rd.
- SlightlyOffside

Only if you don't adjust the odds based on who won. we'd have 10.5% at number 1, but very likely to have even better odds at 2 and 3.

I'd say it's the Toronto model, the Chicago model and the Pittsburgh model too. Or do only the teams who gut their lineups and fail count? Buffalo model?
- neem55

Toronto has 4 players from the last 6 drafts playing. They are all top 10 picks. 19 other players had to come from somewhere. I'm sure they didn't sign them all.

I'd love to win a draft lottery like Pitt and get a second generational talent.

Buffalo fail at trading, drafting, and signing. They need to build a team and let them build together.

* Jim's job is not secure (team record is poope, recent results extra poope, last year of contract)
* Jim does not generate positive media coverage
* Francesco told him to do it!
- SlightlyOffside

Despite Jim not having a contract, I think his job is safe because of Travis Green. I have my doubts that Aquaman wants to keep paying 2 coaches for several more years; and I dont think many experienced GM candidates will want to take a job where they have their hands tied from the start. With that, I think your search is limited and remaining candidates offer little upgrade on a guy that is at least familiar with the organization and is improving.

I would guess a 2 year extension

Please someone , anyone take him please please please, we will throw in Chaput too
- VANTEL

How can you waive chaput and throw in another chaput??
Wait. Is there another Chaput i don't know about?
Chaput 2?
Chaput too??

How can you waive chaput and throw in another chaput??
Wait. Is there another Chaput i don't know about?
Chaput 2?
Chaput too??


- dbot

Megna . I slapped my pee pee . Sorry boss

Toronto has 4 players from the last 6 drafts playing. They are all top 10 picks. 19 other players had to come from somewhere. I'm sure they didn't sign them all.

I'd love to win a draft lottery like Pitt and get a second generational talent.

Buffalo fail at trading, drafting, and signing. They need to build a team and let them build together.
- manvanfan

Toronto gutted their lineup to get picks/prospects and then started building around those picks/prospects and they did it for multiple years, it's not a very difficult thing to see. Over the past 5 years I doubt any team has been as active as them in selling at the TDL and accumulating picks/prospects. Buffalo has done the same, but not as well and not for as long. No strategy works all of the time, but I'm pretty happy were headed to the top of the draft again and would be even happier if JB made 3 or 4 trades. Trading the whole lineup would and could never happen, but selling off players for picks is what (good)rebuilding teams do.

How can you waive chaput and throw in another chaput??
Wait. Is there another Chaput i don't know about?
Chaput 2?
Chaput too??


- dbot

Chaput deux.

Megna . I slapped my pee pee . Sorry boss
- VANTEL

You gotta get your plugs in order.

Apology accepted.

Despite Jim not having a contract, I think his job is safe because of Travis Green. I have my doubts that Aquaman wants to keep paying 2 coaches for several more years; and I dont think many experienced GM candidates will want to take a job where they have their hands tied from the start. With that, I think your search is limited and remaining candidates offer little upgrade on a guy that is at least familiar with the organization and is improving.

I would guess a 2 year extension
- WhiteLie

I don't think a billion dollar franchise worries about spending 4 mil.

You gotta get your plugs in order.

Apology accepted.
- dbot

There is simply not a single good rebuilding team in the league. I’ll shoot down every suggestion by anyone. Just for a taster before u even attempt to name teams no team who lucked out in a generational draft will count even without success.

Ok start it coming...

Exit: LAK only team i know of built a winner without tanking nor sucking for many years.

Toronto gutted their lineup to get picks/prospects and then started building around those picks/prospects and they did it for multiple years, it's not a very difficult thing to see. Over the past 5 years I doubt any team has been as active as them in selling at the TDL and accumulating picks/prospects. Buffalo has done the same, but not as well and not for as long. No strategy works all of the time, but I'm pretty happy were headed to the top of the draft again and would be even happier if JB made 3 or 4 trades. Trading the whole lineup would and could never happen, but selling off players for picks is what good) rebuilding teams do.
- neem55

Buffalo are a lot smarter than you think. Eichel Mittelstadt Reinhart Pu Nylander ROR a shot at Dahlin or a top 5 pick Ristolainen . They are not stupid, they knew what the target was this year Dahlin.

Plus they will trade Kane for a pick or D

23 man roster and you want to trade everyone but those 2. So the 21 other players that make up the team next year? Going to get them from where?
- manvanfan

Sorry I was actually generalizing that statement, for everyone that has a hard time interpreting my post, everyone but Horvat and Boeser Should be on the trading block.

Now seriously, he will not be trading 21 players, but he should be open to trading, keep signing guys like Vanek, Sedins to one year deals that can fill in, while the picks and prospects develop their skills in a development league not named the NHL.

I hope this clarifies the post.

Sorry I was actually generalizing that statement, for everyone that has a hard time interpreting my post, everyone but Horvat and Boeser Should be on the trading block.

Now seriously, he will not be trading 21 players, but he should be open to trading, keep signing guys like Vanek, Sedins to one year deals that can fill in, while the picks and prospects develop their skills in a development league not named the NHL.

I hope this clarifies the post.
- Makita

I fully understood you before 😂😂👍

There is simply not a single good rebuilding team in the league. I’ll shoot down every suggestion by anyone. Just for a taster before u even attempt to name teams no team who lucked out in a generational draft will count even without success.

Ok start it coming...

Exit: LAK only team i know of built a winner without tanking nor sucking for many years.
- Nighthawk

LA built through the draft really well. Made trades when they were ready to compete. It was a solid plan. Patience.

I see nothing wrong with that statement. Brock can carry a line and so can Bo. Sedins will be back to being 3rd liners. This team will upset a lot of teams down the stretch.

-Nucker101

I guess it's all how you look at things, personally I think you are just being factious, but on the off chance you are dead serious, I think there are too many other variables that I don't think are being taken into account.

I refuse to blame the Sedins for the fortunes of the club, like a bit of a mob mentality here, thank goodness they're here or Arizona would look like a championship team in the headlights.

So once Horvat and Baertschi are back with the team, in your assumption, will turn their fortunes around and start to give the wildcard teams a scare, is that your statement?

The Canucks would have to leap frog 15 teams that are presently in front of them, plus while the Canucks are winning at "unprecedented" rate the other teams would have to be losing at the same rate. And for this miracle on ice to happen the winning had better start tomorrow and not at the end of Jan.

There are a few players I like on this squad, Horvat and Boeser are two, but if I could, I'd throw in the towel and trade everyone but those two for as many picks as possible and hope to have Arizona, Buffalo and Ottawa finish better than us.
- Makita

Sorry I was actually generalizing that statement, for everyone that has a hard time interpreting my post, everyone but Horvat and Boeser Should be on the trading block.

Now seriously, he will not be trading 21 players, but he should be open to trading, keep signing guys like Vanek, Sedins to one year deals that can fill in, while the picks and prospects develop their skills in a development league not named the NHL.

I hope this clarifies the post.
- Makita

Some people have a very difficult time hearing anything remotely negative/realistic about the Canucks. Because I am a hater, I understood exactly what you were getting at.

There is simply not a single good rebuilding team in the league. I’ll shoot down every suggestion by anyone. Just for a taster before u even attempt to name teams no team who lucked out in a generational draft will count even without success.

Ok start it coming...
- Nighthawk

Is it luck if you have the best odds to win the lottery? seems like that's not to me. I love how you say: no rebuilding teams are, but....

I'll accept the challenge though. Carolina and Colorado. both teams have sold off players, bottomed out and accumulated picks, both teams are on the fringe of the playoffs because of it with multiple top5 picks impacting their lineups as they push for a wildcard spot.

As you said, come at me. Oh and I wont make any bullpoop rules about who counts and who doesn't (We all know Tornonto was a tankjob that is a clear success)

LA built through the draft really well. Made trades when they were ready to compete. It was a solid plan. Patience.
- manvanfan

Doughty playing 29 minutes a night helps too.

Vanek to StL for ???
EG to NYI for 1/2 or ???
Tanev to NJD for ???

Only if you don't adjust the odds based on who won. we'd have 10.5% at number 1, but very likely to have even better odds at 2 and 3.
- neem55

you're right, of course, about adjusting. Can't predict that in advance, so this is the best / simplest model available today. Regardless, 5th pick has the greatest probability, for the 3rd worst team.

Buffalo are a lot smarter than you think. Eichel Mittelstadt Reinhart Pu Nylander ROR a shot at Dahlin or a top 5 pick Ristolainen . They are not stupid, they knew what the target was this year Dahlin.

Plus they will trade Kane for a pick or D
- VANTEL

I think Buffalo has done really well, actually. Unlike the Canucks, they develop their young guys in Rochester (AHL) until they are ready. It takes time, they were/are just a bit behind teams like Toronto in their rebuild. I expect them to push fora playoff spot as soon as next year if they are able to bring in some more d.

Is it luck if you have the best odds to win the lottery? seems like that's not to me. I love how you say: no rebuilding teams are, but....

I'll accept the challenge though. Carolina and Colorado. both teams have sold off players, bottomed out and accumulated picks, both teams are on the fringe of the playoffs because of it with multiple top5 picks impacting their lineups as they push for a wildcard spot.

As you said, come at me. Oh and I wont make any bullpoop rules about who counts and who doesn't (We all know Tornonto was a tankjob that is a clear success)
- neem55

Canes won in a shortened lock out season
Nordiques were pathetic for years & had 1OA’s out of their ying.