patience stuff takes too much time.

- hillbillydeluxe

I don't think it matters how we feel but you have to ask why is Linden doing all the talking now and not Jim?

No. They can have Cassels
- Reubenkincade

I don't think it matters how we feel but you have to ask why is Linden doing all the talking now and not Jim?
- VANTEL

Why hasn't a trade happened yet? I think that TL wants to get healthy and fight for a playoff spot. He is much much closer to the Sedin's and giving them another chance at a cup. I think JB wants to start trading away.

I don't think it matters how we feel but you have to ask why is Linden doing all the talking now and not Jim?
- VANTEL

* Jim's job is not secure (team record is poope, recent results extra poope, last year of contract)
* Jim does not generate positive media coverage
* Francesco told him to do it!

If you got offered Duclair for JV straught up would you take that deal? Just curious what others think as i doubt JB would do it and personally think we need JVs size more.
- NorthNuck

No thx

According to Ryan biech. Chaput needed to be reassigned to utica before 2pm today, otherwise he requires waivers. Canucks might be late on announcement, or chaput could be sticking with the club instead of goldobin

According to Ryan biech. Chaput needed to be reassigned to utica before 2pm today, otherwise he requires waivers. Canucks might be late on announcement, or chaput could be sticking with the club instead of goldobin
- Codes1087

Who would be desperate enough to claim him off waivers

Who would be desperate enough to claim him off waivers
- VANTEL

Oh i could not care less if he gets claimed. I am worried about why he is actually still on the roster and what that means for other players.

* Jim's job is not secure (team record is poope, recent results extra poope, last year of contract)
* Jim does not generate positive media coverage
* Francesco told him to do it!
- SlightlyOffside

The thing is who is going to come in and add to what Jim has done? Unless people are convinced the only reason why Van hasn't won the lotto yet is because of Jim. Team just got new coaches.

Most don't want to add big name free agents unless they are named Tavares.

Get a GM that can help us tank, 28th and 29th the last couple seasons.

Considering Van's prospect pool went from almost dead last to a top 10 in 4 seasons. Jim has been apart of the scouting that has got us from last to top 10.

Van doesn't need a GM to come in and change the culture of the team. The Sedin's contract is running out at the end of the season.

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1OwGWMQmyLwxQ
- Nucker101

According to Ryan biech. Chaput needed to be reassigned to utica before 2pm today, otherwise he requires waivers. Canucks might be late on announcement, or chaput could be sticking with the club instead of goldobin
- Codes1087

Chaput was an "ok" player in one game this season. At this point though, I would rather see Granlund make an attempt to play center and Boucher in the line up. Enough of the we need a bigger center to play against bigger line ups. They got destroyed, it didn't help.

Goldy should take what he has learned up here and implement it down in Utica playing big minutes.

Oh i could not care less if he gets claimed. I am worried about why he is actually still on the roster and what that means for other players.
- Codes1087

Seems like I could close my eyes and point at a lineup of our forwards and they could sit for a game or two with the exception of Vanek and Boeser. I`d like to see Goldy in as well, but half the lineup could use a night of\wake up call.

Who would be desperate enough to claim him off waivers
- VANTEL

I thought the same! Surprisingly, it looks like about 15 players have already been claimed through the waiver process this season, most recently:

Freddie Hamilton (by Arizona)
Nathan Walker (Washington...claimed back from Edmonton!)
Ryan Carpenter (Vegas)
Brandon Davidson (Edmonton)
Chris DiDomenico (Ottawa)
Nathan Walker (Edmonton)

I don't think Chaput would be out of place on that list!

I see nothing wrong with that statement. Brock can carry a line and so can Bo. Sedins will be back to being 3rd liners. This team will upset a lot of teams down the stretch.

-Nucker101

I guess it's all how you look at things, personally I think you are just being factious, but on the off chance you are dead serious, I think there are too many other variables that I don't think are being taken into account.

I refuse to blame the Sedins for the fortunes of the club, like a bit of a mob mentality here, thank goodness they're here or Arizona would look like a championship team in the headlights.

So once Horvat and Baertschi are back with the team, in your assumption, will turn their fortunes around and start to give the wildcard teams a scare, is that your statement?

The Canucks would have to leap frog 15 teams that are presently in front of them, plus while the Canucks are winning at "unprecedented" rate the other teams would have to be losing at the same rate. And for this miracle on ice to happen the winning had better start tomorrow and not at the end of Jan.

There are a few players I like on this squad, Horvat and Boeser are two, but if I could, I'd throw in the towel and trade everyone but those two for as many picks as possible and hope to have Arizona, Buffalo and Ottawa finish better than us.

I see nothing wrong with that statement. Brock can carry a line and so can Bo. Sedins will be back to being 3rd liners. This team will upset a lot of teams down the stretch.

-Nucker101

I guess it's all how you look at things, personally I think you are just being factious, but on the off chance you are dead serious, I think there are too many other variables that I don't think are being taken into account.

I refuse to blame the Sedins for the fortunes of the club, like a bit of a mob mentality here, thank goodness they're here or Arizona would look like a championship team in the headlights.

So once Horvat and Baertschi are back with the team, in your assumption, will turn their fortunes around and start to give the wildcard teams a scare, is that your statement?

The Canucks would have to leap frog 15 teams that are presently in front of them, plus while the Canucks are winning at "unprecedented" rate the other teams would have to be losing at the same rate. And for this miracle on ice to happen the winning had better start tomorrow and not at the end of Jan.

There are a few players I like on this squad, Horvat and Boeser are two, but if I could, I'd throw in the towel and trade everyone but those two for as many picks as possible and hope to have Arizona, Buffalo and Ottawa finish better than us.
- Makita

Go makita, and (frank) yes on trading this lineup. Including the goalies. Bring up Bachman to finish the year and let dipietro backup Demko. Should be able to get some prospects/picks to continue to build around, bring up boucher/chapoop/holm and whichever journeyman plug to fill the holes until the end of the season and go into the draft with some extra picks.

Agree on the handcuff thing. It is my opinion that the strategy should have been overpay in dollars on 1 year deals, allowing the team to trade at the deadline, retaining salary if required to make the deal. If you are going to spend to the cap and be this bad there has to be a benefit at the end of the season (extra picks)...
- 1970vintage

I see nothing wrong with that statement. Brock can carry a line and so can Bo. Sedins will be back to being 3rd liners. This team will upset a lot of teams down the stretch.

-Nucker101

I guess it's all how you look at things, personally I think you are just being factious, but on the off chance you are dead serious, I think there are too many other variables that I don't think are being taken into account.

I refuse to blame the Sedins for the fortunes of the club, like a bit of a mob mentality here, thank goodness they're here or Arizona would look like a championship team in the headlights.

So once Horvat and Baertschi are back with the team, in your assumption, will turn their fortunes around and start to give the wildcard teams a scare, is that your statement?

The Canucks would have to leap frog 15 teams that are presently in front of them, plus while the Canucks are winning at "unprecedented" rate the other teams would have to be losing at the same rate. And for this miracle on ice to happen the winning had better start tomorrow and not at the end of Jan.

There are a few players I like on this squad, Horvat and Boeser are two, but if I could, I'd throw in the towel and trade everyone but those two for as many picks as possible and hope to have Arizona, Buffalo and Ottawa finish better than us.
- Makita

23 man roster and you want to trade everyone but those 2. So the 21 other players that make up the team next year? Going to get them from where?

Go makita, and (frank) yes on trading this lineup. Including the goalies. Bring up Bachman to finish the year and let dipietro backup Demko. Should be able to get some prospects/picks to continue to build around, bring up boucher/chapoop/holm and whichever journeyman plug to fill the holes until the end of the season and go into the draft with some extra picks.
- neem55

Only like 5 more years of losing after that. Edmonton Model

I see nothing wrong with that statement. Brock can carry a line and so can Bo. Sedins will be back to being 3rd liners. This team will upset a lot of teams down the stretch.

-Nucker101

I guess it's all how you look at things, personally I think you are just being factious, but on the off chance you are dead serious, I think there are too many other variables that I don't think are being taken into account.

I refuse to blame the Sedins for the fortunes of the club, like a bit of a mob mentality here, thank goodness they're here or Arizona would look like a championship team in the headlights.

So once Horvat and Baertschi are back with the team, in your assumption, will turn their fortunes around and start to give the wildcard teams a scare, is that your statement?

The Canucks would have to leap frog 15 teams that are presently in front of them, plus while the Canucks are winning at "unprecedented" rate the other teams would have to be losing at the same rate. And for this miracle on ice to happen the winning had better start tomorrow and not at the end of Jan.

There are a few players I like on this squad, Horvat and Boeser are two, but if I could, I'd throw in the towel and trade everyone but those two for as many picks as possible and hope to have Arizona, Buffalo and Ottawa finish better than us.
- Makita

I see nothing wrong with that statement. Brock can carry a line and so can Bo. Sedins will be back to being 3rd liners. This team will upset a lot of teams down the stretch.

-Nucker101

I guess it's all how you look at things, personally I think you are just being factious, but on the off chance you are dead serious, I think there are too many other variables that I don't think are being taken into account.

I refuse to blame the Sedins for the fortunes of the club, like a bit of a mob mentality here, thank goodness they're here or Arizona would look like a championship team in the headlights.

So once Horvat and Baertschi are back with the team, in your assumption, will turn their fortunes around and start to give the wildcard teams a scare, is that your statement?

The Canucks would have to leap frog 15 teams that are presently in front of them, plus while the Canucks are winning at "unprecedented" rate the other teams would have to be losing at the same rate. And for this miracle on ice to happen the winning had better start tomorrow and not at the end of Jan.

There are a few players I like on this squad, Horvat and Boeser are two, but if I could, I'd throw in the towel and trade everyone but those two for as many picks as possible and hope to have Arizona, Buffalo and Ottawa finish better than us.
- Makita

no one is catching Arizona or even Buffalo for ineptitude this year!!
"best case" is 3rd worst. draft odds for 10A would be something like:

1st -- 10.5%
2nd -- 10.5%
3rd -- 10.5%
4th -- 12.5%
5th -- 39.1%
6th -- 17.5%

...though 2nd rounds onward we would be drafting 3rd.

23 man roster and you want to trade everyone but those 2. So the 21 other players that make up the team next year? Going to get them from where?
- manvanfan

Waiver wire at the beginning of next season!

Only like 5 more years of losing after that. Edmonton Model
- manvanfan

I'd say it's the Toronto model, the Chicago model and the Pittsburgh model too. Or do only the teams who gut their lineups and fail count? Buffalo model?

no one is catching Arizona or even Buffalo for ineptitude this year!!
"best case" is 3rd worst. draft odds for 10A would be something like:

1st -- 10.5%
2nd -- 10.5%
3rd -- 10.5%
4th -- 12.5%
5th -- 39.1%
6th -- 17.5%

...though 2nd rounds onward we would be drafting 3rd.
- SlightlyOffside

Great... another 5thov pick

Waiver wire at the beginning of next season!
- Pres.cup

We get the hockey we had last season where no one wanted to watch at all.

Van will have top picks that have no one to play with. That will be fun to watch.

If you decide to sell everyone, you literally won't be able to find enough NHL ready players to play for the team to be competitive for at least 10 years.

Great... another 5thov pick
- Pres.cup

most probable.

that is why having multiple picks in the first & second round is a more certain path to success than hoping to win the lottery in a year with a "generational talent"