Bambi with a nice one-timer 😂😂

I’m always a fan of trading down for the right deal. Others see only the draft number like its the magical solution.
- Nighthawk

If we are sitting at 4 for example and Dahlin, Scheniknov(how ever you spell it), zadina are gone and a team calls to drop to 5 and you know they want chuk you take a 2nd and draft boqvist all day.

Even if boqvist is gone trade back a spot or 2 and then maybe trade back again if you value a few dmen about the same and can grab extra assets knowing that one of your guys will be there.

If we are sitting at 4 for example and Dahlin, Scheniknov(how ever you spell it), zadina are gone and a team calls to drop to 5 and you know they want chuk you take a 2nd and draft boqvist all day.

Even if boqvist is gone trade back a spot or 2 and then maybe trade back again if you value a few dmen about the same and can grab extra assets knowing that one of your guys will be there.
- mauryballstein

Pretty much stole my words lol 👍
Can see up to 6-7 D going top 10.

If we are sitting at 4 for example and Dahlin, Scheniknov(how ever you spell it), zadina are gone and a team calls to drop to 5 and you know they want chuk you take a 2nd and draft boqvist all day.

Even if boqvist is gone trade back a spot or 2 and then maybe trade back again if you value a few dmen about the same and can grab extra assets knowing that one of your guys will be there.
- mauryballstein

Not disagreeing but to counter point.
Difference between seguin and gudbranson? 1 pick. Dallas stars traded down from their 1st pick to get two 2nd round picks to anaheim and Anaheim got Cory Perry. Arguement can definitely be made for both sides of keeping picks or trading down

Not disagreeing but to counter point.
Difference between seguin and gudbranson? 1 pick. Dallas stars traded down from their 1st pick to get two 2nd round picks to anaheim and Anaheim got Cory Perry. Arguement can definitely be made for both sides of keeping picks or trading down
- Codes1087

Quit interfering with his exceptional arm chair GMing. Teams always trade back from the top 5 and it works 90% of the time almost 50% of the time! Player X plus draft pick Y > just player Z

Not disagreeing but to counter point.
Difference between seguin and gudbranson? 1 pick. Dallas stars traded down from their 1st pick to get two 2nd round picks to anaheim and Anaheim got Cory Perry. Arguement can definitely be made for both sides of keeping picks or trading down
- Codes1087

True but the argument starts with who is picked not who was traded. Thats what is key.

Zadina is looking like a very nice player. I think his stock will rise between now and Draft day.
I am a little concerned that Petterson hasn't really looked good 5v5 and can only up his game during PP.
As I have been told many times on here that is not a good thing.😁
- Reubenkincade

Dialing it up a notch today which is good, he looks dangerous!

Pronman is an idiot...so am I.
It was a little jab at a few posters that keep telling me that a player who gets lots of points on PP aren't worth much, therefore shouldn't be picked by us.
Petterson will be a fine player for us in a couple years.
- Reubenkincade

It's going to be an adjustment to play on smaller ice, but he looks great.

If we are sitting at 4 for example and Dahlin, Scheniknov(how ever you spell it), zadina are gone and a team calls to drop to 5 and you know they want chuk you take a 2nd and draft boqvist all day.

Even if boqvist is gone trade back a spot or 2 and then maybe trade back again if you value a few dmen about the same and can grab extra assets knowing that one of your guys will be there.
- mauryballstein

BPA, we have many holes and can pick d in the 2nd and 3rd round. I'm all for picking d, but when you have a chance to pick top 5 you don't trade down you pick the BPA. I expect us to pick top 4 this year. If the BPA ends up being D, because they step up and have a crazy second half, I'm all in favor for it. If not pick D in the second round, of all the positions LOTS of the best d in the league are second rounders. We need to stockpile d prospects, not just pick a first rounder and be happy. I want two out the first three rounds to be D this year and next year. Then I will be satisfied. If we get extra picks in the any of the first three rounds, that should make it a easy goal.

BPA, we have many holes and can pick d in the 2nd and 3rd round. I'm all for picking d, but when you have a chance to pick top 5 you don't trade down you pick the BPA. I expect us to pick top 4 this year. If the BPA ends up being D, because they step up and have a crazy second half, I'm all in favor for it. If not pick D in the second round, of all the positions LOTS of the best d in the league are second rounders. We need to stockpile d prospects, not just pick a first rounder and be happy. I want two out the first three rounds to be D this year and next year. Then I will be satisfied. If we get extra picks in the any of the first three rounds, that should make it a easy goal.
- neem55

BPA, we have many holes and can pick d in the 2nd and 3rd round. I'm all for picking d, but when you have a chance to pick top 5 you don't trade down you pick the BPA. I expect us to pick top 4 this year. If the BPA ends up being D, because they step up and have a crazy second half, I'm all in favor for it. If not pick D in the second round, of all the positions LOTS of the best d in the league are second rounders. We need to stockpile d prospects, not just pick a first rounder and be happy. I want two out the first three rounds to be D this year and next year. Then I will be satisfied. If we get extra picks in the any of the first three rounds, that should make it a easy goal.
- neem55

Exactly, you don’t pass on bpa in the top 5. We should have 3 second rounders this draft so use at least two of them on D

True but the argument starts with who is picked not who was traded. Thats what is key.
- Nighthawk

I think Codes' point is that its about who you are passing on, not who you take or trade, that determines success of those deals

Exactly, you don’t pass on bpa in the top 5. We should have 3 second rounders this draft so use at least two of them on D
- CanuckDon

Year to year I would say that BPA until there is a consensus drop off in caliber. Some years are deeper than others but trading down only makes sense to me when the rankings get muddled, which is usually outside the top 15

Exactly, you don’t pass on bpa in the top 5. We should have 3 second rounders this draft so use at least two of them on D
- CanuckDon

I hope you're right, I would love this! I was a bit pissed they didnt use one of the 2nd rounders on d last year if I'm being honest. Would have been Heponiemi and the BDA in JG's spot were I the GM. I like what lind and Gadjovich bring, but that's just my opinion on where I would go. You do have to pick need at some point, just not in the top5 (I personally think we already did this with Juolevi, should have picked Tkachuk and reached instead).

I think Codes' point is that its about who you are passing on, not who you take or trade, that determines success of those deals
- WhiteLie

I understood him. After Dahlin i like a handful of players next. Any team giving us an extra 2nd say i would take. Similar to what VGK might of done last draft. I want a D in the 1st.

Year to year I would say that BPA until there is a consensus drop off in caliber. Some years are deeper than others but trading down only makes sense to me when the rankings get muddled, which is usually outside the top 15
- WhiteLie

I think you do need to prioritize D, or whatever your need is, sometimes just not with that high of a pick.

2019 draft vegas has 3 seconds and 3 third round picks

I hope you're right, I would love this! I was a bit pissed they didnt use one of the 2nd rounders on d last year if I'm being honest. Would have been Heponiemi and the BDA in JG's spot were I the GM. I like what lind and Gadjovich bring, but that's just my opinion on where I would go. You do have to pick need at some point, just not in the top5 (I personally think we already did this with Juolevi, should have picked Tkachuk and reached instead).
- neem55

How do u arrive at top 5? Thats an arbitrary number at best. Why not 3 or 6 or 8?
After Dahlin it opens up IMO.
Rather we picked OJ or Sergachev than Tkachuk was my BPA back then. Wingers r the least commodity if not a Laine type.

2019 draft vegas has 3 seconds and 3 third round picks
- neem55

They had a great draft last year imo, another strong one and they're in pretty good shape. Wonder if they re-sign Neal or trade him for a late 1st.

Petterrson!!!!

I think you do need to prioritize D, or whatever your need is, sometimes just not with that high of a pick.
- neem55

I think all else being equal, you can prioritize positionally, but in my view you just take the best player you can. I find the talk that "drafting _______ is a good idea because he will compliment Pettersson/Boeser/Horvat in the future" ridiculous. It relies heavily on the assumption that the prospect will pan out 100% as planned, when there are many examples of players that regress or fail to meet lofty expectations

Pettersson just score 1-0

EP 👍

Petterrson!!!!
- Codes1087

How do u arrive at top 5? Thats an arbitrary number at best. Why not 3 or 6 or 8?
After Dahlin it opens up IMO.
Rather we picked OJ or Sergachev than Tkachuk was my BPA back then. Wingers r the least commodity if not a Laine type.
- Nighthawk

Because one the most significant statistical dropoff in terms of quality players is after 5. You base your predictions on the last say ten or twenty drafts. Top 3 yields the highest. Top 5 yields more quality players than pick 6, pick 5 independently yields more good players than the picks below it and so on. If it was the case that 6 was only marginally worse than 5, I'd be all for it, but it is statistically significant when you run a regression on the picks.
Here's a good breakdown of how it looks on paper, notice how the likeyhood they play in the show drops dramatically after 5. It is a not a arbitrary number at all, it has been backed up statistically numerous times.
https://www.tsn.ca/statis...-nhl-draft-picks-1.317819