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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 5 @ 8:48 AM ET
Lol WTF is that supposed to mean....who pissed in your cereal?
- Nuck4U

I don't eat cereal. Don just wanted to argue last night. You've gained the reputation of arguing.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 5 @ 9:46 AM ET
Id have to agree with that.
Say we keep tanev, pouliot, OJ, tree (hopefully) and go from there. Later when we have more depth Tanev can be traded

- SMBDragon

Tanev needs to go now while he is healthy and worth something. Keeping Tanev in the lineup at this point is useless as we are still a bottom 5 team with him playing. He needs to be moved for value...now.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Jan 5 @ 10:16 AM ET
Tanev needs to go now while he is healthy and worth something. Keeping Tanev in the lineup at this point is useless as we are still a bottom 5 team with him playing. He needs to be moved for value...now.
- LordHumungous

100% very astute observation maybe he scores against TO tommorow and stop Buston Matteww on a scoring chance, then we can trade him while he's hot


but a more realistic chance is he gets a 4-6 week injury , we can't trade him and people still think he is elite
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jan 5 @ 10:21 AM ET
In the year they took OJ. JB was after a center and PLD was taken before he could take him. Obviously other GM's are just viewing things the same way that JB is and taking the player JB wants, before JB can pick him.

From rumours over the years JB wanted Larkin, didn't hear what he wanted but BB is just fine. PLD and Makar.

- manvanfan

and picture what we'd have if he'd have had his way....instead of OJ and EP we'd have PLD and makar which is much better if you ask me. Makar to me (as i stated before the draft) will be the biggest impact player.
D stars are hard to come by I say you take them when they are available. So look at how it is when you take my preferred picks Makar and Sergachev. Thats a formidable D core, something champions are made of. Makes Tanev expendible for trade of a 1st or a C.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jan 5 @ 10:27 AM ET
100% very astute observation maybe he scores against TO tommorow and stop Buston Matteww on a scoring chance, then we can trade him while he's hot


but a more realistic chance is he gets a 4-6 week injury , we can't trade him and people still think he is elite

- onesmallleap

ha ha yes, perhaps thats more what would happen

If he stops mathews TO would want him...... but then again maybe not as they only seem to crave our garbage
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 5 @ 10:29 AM ET
Sven returns
WhiteLie
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Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 5 @ 10:33 AM ET
Yet the team made gold medal final. They must know something. Sometimes building a team around chemistry you see at tryouts over individual skill will go a long way.
- Retinalz


I cant find the graphic anymore but TSN showed Canada's medal count when the tournament is held on North American ice vs International and the results were near perfect on the smaller ice. Though more prospects are playing over here, I think thats a significant advantage for Canada/US
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
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Jan 5 @ 10:49 AM ET
I cant find the graphic anymore but TSN showed Canada's medal count when the tournament is held on North American ice vs International and the results were near perfect on the smaller ice. Though more prospects are playing over here, I think thats a significant advantage for Canada/US
- WhiteLie

very interesting point there, but are you sure they arent using regulation size ice for the tournament? You'd think there would be a standard.

sweden looks great though even if it is different size ice. It's possible they may have been here in NA for awhile skating on smaller ice ahead of time or even drew a new size on the ice in sweden to acclimatize
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 5 @ 10:50 AM ET
100% very astute observation maybe he scores against TO tommorow and stop Buston Matteww on a scoring chance, then we can trade him while he's hot


but a more realistic chance is he gets a 4-6 week injury , we can't trade him and people still think he is elite

- onesmallleap

yep
WhiteLie
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Jan 5 @ 10:53 AM ET
very interesting point there, but are you sure they arent using regulation size ice for the tournament? You'd think there would be a standard.

sweden looks great though even if it is different size ice. It's possible they may have been here in NA for awhile skating on smaller ice ahead of time or even drew a new size on the ice in sweden to acclimatize

- SMBDragon


All European rinks are to the IIHF Olympic standards while the majority of North American rinks play to NHL size, the difference is about 15 feet in width I believe

Logistically it makes no sense for a host to conform their rinks to meet a criteria, so when its in Europe the ice is bigger and Canada loses the advantage of physicality
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
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Jan 5 @ 11:09 AM ET
All European rinks are to the IIHF Olympic standards while the majority of North American rinks play to NHL size, the difference is about 15 feet in width I believe

Logistically it makes no sense for a host to conform their rinks to meet a criteria, so when its in Europe the ice is bigger and Canada loses the advantage of physicality

- WhiteLie

the olympics I believe are the larger ice no matter where they are played....may be wrong on that but Im pretty sure there is a standard there.
If so then these rinks CAN be changed. But it is the juniors so maybe they dont make the changes?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 5 @ 11:13 AM ET
the olympics I believe are the larger ice no matter where they are played....may be wrong on that but Im pretty sure there is a standard there.
If so then these rinks CAN be changed. But it is the juniors so maybe they dont make the changes?

- SMBDragon



Olympics in North America is NHL sized ice
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 5 @ 11:19 AM ET
the olympics I believe are the larger ice no matter where they are played....may be wrong on that but Im pretty sure there is a standard there.
If so then these rinks CAN be changed. But it is the juniors so maybe they dont make the changes?

- SMBDragon

They didn't change the ice in Vancouver, but it would make sense if there was an Olympic regulations size.
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 11:22 AM ET
the olympics I believe are the larger ice no matter where they are played....may be wrong on that but Im pretty sure there is a standard there.
If so then these rinks CAN be changed. But it is the juniors so maybe they dont make the changes?

- SMBDragon

Do you not remember Crosby's golden goal in Vancouver at GM Place? When the Olympics are in North America they play on NHL sized ice.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 5 @ 11:24 AM ET
Olympics in North America is NHL sized ice
- Nighthawk

During the 2010 Olympics the ice was changed to Olympic sized. It did not stay the NHL size.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 5 @ 11:25 AM ET
and picture what we'd have if he'd have had his way....instead of OJ and EP we'd have PLD and makar which is much better if you ask me. Makar to me (as i stated before the draft) will be the biggest impact player.
D stars are hard to come by I say you take them when they are available. So look at how it is when you take my preferred picks Makar and Sergachev. Thats a formidable D core, something champions are made of. Makes Tanev expendible for trade of a 1st or a C.

- SMBDragon

1) Only one of those guys has played in the NHL, so don't get ahead of yourself. makar is doing well in the WJC, not the AHL or the NHL or the NCAA(yet). Pettersson is looking much better than Makar.
2) When is the last time a 1C got traded? I've been a big proponent of trying to get Nuge for Tanev, but it's very rare. RyJo for Jones is the only one I can think of recently. DUchene and Drouin, depending on whether you believe they are 1 or 2 C or wingers. Either way, tAnev isn't enough to get it done.
WhiteLie
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Jan 5 @ 11:27 AM ET
Do you not remember Crosby's golden goal in Vancouver at GM Place? When the Olympics are in North America they play on NHL sized ice.
- LeftCoaster


I was trying to find out what happened in Salt Lake City & Calgary. I know Vancouver was granted the variance from Olympic standards, but the other 2 facilities were built specifically for those Olympics and mightve been constructed with temporary measures before being adjusted to North American size afterwards
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 5 @ 11:27 AM ET
During the 2010 Olympics the ice was changed to Olympic sized. It did not stay the NHL size.
- Retinalz

fake news.
https://en.wikipedia.org/..._the_2010_Winter_Olympics

looks like all previous were international size though. No wonder we won
WhiteLie
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Jan 5 @ 11:30 AM ET
During the 2010 Olympics the ice was changed to Olympic sized. It did not stay the NHL size.
- Retinalz


They convinced them of the change because in the true spirit of the Olympics it "saved money and sold more tickets"

http://aroundtherings.com...010-Olympics/292/Articles
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 11:31 AM ET
During the 2010 Olympics the ice was changed to Olympic sized. It did not stay the NHL size.
- Retinalz

Not true they did not change it in Vancouver.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Jan 5 @ 11:31 AM ET
Sven returns
- VANTEL

let the playoff run begin
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 11:32 AM ET
I was trying to find out what happened in Salt Lake City & Calgary. I know Vancouver was granted the variance from Olympic standards, but the other 2 facilities were built specifically for those Olympics and mightve been constructed with temporary measures before being adjusted to North American size afterwards
- WhiteLie

I think Vancouver was the first time on NHL sized ice?
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Jan 5 @ 11:33 AM ET
very interesting point there, but are you sure they arent using regulation size ice for the tournament? You'd think there would be a standard.

sweden looks great though even if it is different size ice. It's possible they may have been here in NA for awhile skating on smaller ice ahead of time or even drew a new size on the ice in sweden to acclimatize

- SMBDragon

NA is nhl sized ice most European are large and i believe Finland uses the hybrid size
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 11:36 AM ET
I was trying to find out what happened in Salt Lake City & Calgary. I know Vancouver was granted the variance from Olympic standards, but the other 2 facilities were built specifically for those Olympics and mightve been constructed with temporary measures before being adjusted to North American size afterwards
- WhiteLie

Olympic ice is 13 feet wider but still 200 feet long. NHL rinks are 200 x 85.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 5 @ 11:37 AM ET
1) Only one of those guys has played in the NHL, so don't get ahead of yourself. makar is doing well in the WJC, not the AHL or the NHL or the NCAA(yet). Pettersson is looking much better than Makar.
2) When is the last time a 1C got traded? I've been a big proponent of trying to get Nuge for Tanev, but it's very rare. RyJo for Jones is the only one I can think of recently. DUchene and Drouin, depending on whether you believe they are 1 or 2 C or wingers. Either way, tAnev isn't enough to get it done.

- neem55

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