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Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 1 @ 5:07 PM ET
It was a stupid signing. It was signing for play off contention not for re-building.
It was a signing for short term gains (ie; a cup run) not not for the longer future. It was part of their mixed messages campaign of the last few years.

- Marwood

The goal should always be to win.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 1 @ 5:09 PM ET
Will they be re-signed for 3 or 4 more years?
- Reubenkincade

They haven't been yet so that's a good sign.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 1 @ 5:09 PM ET
Didn’t you hear the great news? There is a GM available that has never made a mistake! When a GM is afraid of making a mistake....well you get Mike Gillis. (frank) that
- CanuckDon

Is his name Nucker
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 1 @ 5:09 PM ET
Didn’t you hear the great news? There is a GM available that has never made a mistake! When a GM is afraid of making a mistake....well you get Mike Gillis. (frank) that
- CanuckDon

Hire him back, it makes for great discussion on hockey buzz
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 1 @ 5:10 PM ET
Vrbata & Gagne as well, you don't sign these players when you're re-building.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Do you sign no players when you are rebuilding? What is the right way to handle a rebuild? A roster of 19 olds?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 1 @ 5:13 PM ET
Didn’t you hear the great news? There is a GM available that has never made a mistake! When a GM is afraid of making a mistake....well you get Mike Gillis. (frank) that
- CanuckDon

It's always a good decision to follow up one mistake with another, you're supposed to learn from your mistakes not do the same one again.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 1 @ 5:15 PM ET
Is his name Nucker
- VANTEL

Half the idiots on here would hire Nucker as the new GM. Thankfully hockeybuzz isn’t real life
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 1 @ 5:16 PM ET
Do you sign no players when you are rebuilding? What is the right way to handle a rebuild? A roster of 19 olds?
- CanuckDon

No, you sign players like Vanek to 1 year deals and then trade them for assets, not 3-6 year deals. No UFA should be signed for 6 years in a rebuild.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 1 @ 5:16 PM ET
It's always a good decision to follow up one mistake with another, you're supposed to learn from your mistakes not do the same one again.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I get it, you hate Linden, you hate Benning and you hate Aquilini. This has been established. What’s the solution to the organizations problems?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 1 @ 5:16 PM ET
The goal should always be to win in a few years.
- Bettmanhatesus

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 1 @ 5:18 PM ET
No, you sign players like Vanek to 1 year deals and then trade them for assets, not 3-6 year deals. No UFA should be signed for 6 years in a rebuild.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Loui was a bad mistake....nothing wrong with the Vrbata, Vanek and Del Zotto signings. Gagner is debatable
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 1 @ 5:18 PM ET
No, you sign players like Vanek to 1 year deals and then trade them for assets, not 3-6 year deals. No UFA should be signed for 6 years in a rebuild.
- A_SteamingLombardi

THIS.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 1 @ 5:22 PM ET
I get it, you hate Linden, you hate Benning and you hate Aquilini. This has been established. What’s the solution to the organizations problems?
- CanuckDon

I don`t hate Benning I think he has a real talent finding amateur players, he lacks that same talent when it come to scouting pros.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 1 @ 5:27 PM ET
We all know gillis left a hell of a mess with ntc and virtually nothing in the prospect pool, fast forward to now and what do we have
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 1 @ 5:30 PM ET

- Marwood

I didn't type the few years part but if you want to frank with it so be it
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Jan 1 @ 5:31 PM ET
No Canadian team will ever win the cup with that crook running this league, come on now do the homework
- Bettmanhatesus

Do what homework? What difference does it make what side of the border the cup lands on? If Canadian gms don't put together a winning formula ...why does that become...bettman hates Canada? Last time I checked league wide , teams were still largely made up of Canadian born players...to the tune of close to 60 %. What team in Canada the last 20 years do you feel was absolutely robbed of a cup? Most years we can't even get half our teams into the playoffs...let alone put together a championship calibre winning team. Canucks have had the best chance...the most talented team by far in 2011. But they were butter soft and emotionally weak. You know it....i know it....everyone knows it. Boston broke their will....and took the cup. No conspiracy here, they did what it took to win...Sedins led us off to the golf course!
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 1 @ 5:32 PM ET
I didn't type the few years part but if you want to frank with it so be it
- Bettmanhatesus

I thought the goal was to win the cup.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 1 @ 5:34 PM ET
Do what homework? What difference does it make what side of the border the cup lands on? If Canadian gms don't put together a winning formula ...why does that become...bettman hates Canada? Last time I checked league wide , teams were still largely made up of Canadian born players...to the tune of close to 60 %. What team in Canada the last 20 years do you feel was absolutely robbed of a cup? Most years we can't even get half our teams into the playoffs...let alone put together a championship calibre winning team. Canucks have had the best chance...the most talented team by far in 2011. But they were butter soft and emotionally weak. You know it....i know it....everyone knows it. Boston broke there will....and took the cup. No conspiracy here, they did what it took to win...Sedins led us off to the golf course!
- Bullfrog77

Its about the almighty dollar come on man, that's what the world is.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 1 @ 5:38 PM ET
Do you sign no players when you are rebuilding? What is the right way to handle a rebuild? A roster of 19 olds?
- CanuckDon

Yes obviously!

The best part of all the whining about JB.

Fans wanted younger, faster. They got McCann and JV. Was a mistake. Fans realized they were wrong.

Then fans wanted to not sign any half decent free agents and they got Chaput and Megna and complained for an entire season about how much they suck. Fans again realized they were wrong.

Fans wanted some players sold at the TDL. It happened.

The fans then wanted to watch entertaining hockey, so they signed some mid level free agents to allow the younger players more time to develop and the Chaput's and Megna's not have a regular roster spot.

Fans are still complaining about management.

Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 1 @ 5:43 PM ET
Do what homework? What difference does it make what side of the border the cup lands on? If Canadian gms don't put together a winning formula ...why does that become...bettman hates Canada? Last time I checked league wide , teams were still largely made up of Canadian born players...to the tune of close to 60 %. What team in Canada the last 20 years do you feel was absolutely robbed of a cup? Most years we can't even get half our teams into the playoffs...let alone put together a championship calibre winning team. Canucks have had the best chance...the most talented team by far in 2011. But they were butter soft and emotionally weak. You know it....i know it....everyone knows it. Boston broke their will....and took the cup. No conspiracy here, they did what it took to win...Sedins led us off to the golf course!
- Bullfrog77

Ask Nathan Horton how soft they were
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 1 @ 5:49 PM ET
Yes obviously!

The best part of all the whining about JB.

Fans wanted younger, faster. They got McCann and JV. Was a mistake. Fans realized they were wrong.

Then fans wanted to not sign any half decent free agents and they got Chaput and Megna and complained for an entire season about how much they suck. Fans again realized they were wrong.

Fans wanted some players sold at the TDL. It happened.

The fans then wanted to watch entertaining hockey, so they signed some mid level free agents to allow the younger players more time to develop and the Chaput's and Megna's not have a regular roster spot.

Fans are still complaining about management.

- manvanfan

I wonder if we could swap our roster with the Giants? Would that be a proper rebuild?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 1 @ 5:53 PM ET
I wonder if we could swap our roster with the Giants? Would that be a proper rebuild?
- CanuckDon

The fans get what they want whether they are wrong or right.

I think the Giants have three 20 year old players. Wouldn't be a proper rebuild. Teenagers only.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 1 @ 5:53 PM ET
I wonder if we could swap our roster with the Giants? Would that be a proper rebuild?
- CanuckDon

No they`ll stick with the retool on the fly.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 1 @ 6:18 PM ET
Broken record
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 1 @ 6:31 PM ET
Half the idiots on here would hire Nucker as the new GM. Thankfully hockeybuzz isn’t real life
- CanuckDon



So salty
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