I'm ok with moving risto too, if we get value back.
His contract 5.4? A year for his age is fair.

Just wondering if silent phil and his 5 man rushing unit is confusing or a difficult concept?

Risto has quite a few points over his career, especially with a couple questionable head coaches. He's definitely been a disappointment this year
- Boss34

I doubt we are shopping Risto and I would only pull the trigger if it was a crazy offer but I do agree he kinda looks lost this year.

I'm ok with moving risto too, if we get value back.
His contract 5.4? A year for his age is fair.

Just wondering if silent phil and his 5 man rushing unit is confusing or a difficult concept?

Risto has quite a few points over his career, especially with a couple questionable head coaches. He's definitely been a disappointment this year
- Boss34

I doubt we are shopping Risto and I would only pull the trigger if it was a crazy offer but I do agree he kinda looks lost this year.

Kane, Lehner, and Sam for Karlsson and a pick?
- lulags

If only it was that easy

It would cost more and different players

Kane, Lehner, and Sam for Karlsson and a pick?
- lulags

If only it was that easy

It would cost more and different players

I think we missed the boat on a Sam trade. Last year or last off season was the time to pull the trigger. His is too slow for todays game. He now has zero trade value.
- lulags

If only we could trade him to one of hockeybuzz's gms. Lot's of support here still. He's part of the lackluster, little effort, entitled group we need to clear out.

Eventually ryan leaf fans gave up.

Trade him for a pick, high or low.
Guys with his "petigree" get 2nd chances

If only it was that easy

It would cost more and different players
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Kane, Lehner, Risto-Karlsson and a 1st? We retain 1/2 of Kanes salary

I'm ok with moving risto too, if we get value back.
His contract 5.4? A year for his age is fair.

Just wondering if silent phil and his 5 man rushing unit is confusing or a difficult concept?

Risto has quite a few points over his career, especially with a couple questionable head coaches. He's definitely been a disappointment this year
- Boss34

I'm wondering if we can sucker Boston out of Charlie McAvoy for him ..

But that's Fairytale Land lol

Even though the points don't show. It looked like Eichel showed up a little more than usual early in the game last night.

This is all well and good but for me it just makes the rest of this season look ever more lazy. His first couple shifts he was playing with confidence and skating hard. Why can't he do this on nights when the HBO cameras aren't there?

It also looked like after the Kane chance he went right back to being frustrated and gliding around.

If only we could trade him to one of hockeybuzz's gms. Lot's of support here still. He's part of the lackluster, little effort, entitled group we need to clear out.

Eventually ryan leaf fans gave up.

Trade him for a pick, high or low.
Guys with his "petigree" get 2nd chances
- Boss34

I agree he has some value and the lack-luster performance we have seen this year is partially to blame on a team that does not gel in anyway unless your lucky enough to find yourself next to Kane and Eichel some nights.
I still think his speed is a major issue for the modern game.

Kane is an awful passer. He's our leading point scorer by pure luck.

Did you see Kane's cross ice wrist shot of a pass that's three feet over Sam's stick, hits the boards and of course goes the other way? If that's Eichel it's on Sams tape
- sbroads24

I really dont like knocking the guy because hes playing the best hockey of his career and seems to have really gotten his act together but the production is being way overvalued.

When's the roster freeze?

Pacioretty may be on the trade block
- homiedclown

Yes please

Kane, Lehner, Risto-Karlsson and a 1st? We retain 1/2 of Kanes salary
- lulags

Ottawa has no 1st or 2nd this year.

Kane, Lehner, Risto-Karlsson and a 1st? We retain 1/2 of Kanes salary
- lulags

Immediately after this, trade Johnson for Pysyk...ill organize the Stanley cup parade

I'm wondering if we can sucker Boston out of Charlie McAvoy for him ..

But that's Fairytale Land lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I'm guessing the Boston gm meeting goes like this:

Let's trade our cost controlled, best young defenseman since ray bourgue, in the division for risto at 5.6 million.

Your fired

Ottawa has no 1st or 2nd this year.
- sskkoo1

Then swap the draft pick for Dzingel

I really dont like knocking the guy because hes playing the best hockey of his career and seems to have really gotten his act together but the production is being way overvalued.

When's the roster freeze?
- Sabresfan-365

He is, but it's more just because he's stayed healthy.

He's a good goal scorer. But that's about it.

If Kane was signed here for the next 4 years at 5-6 mil, he's the least of our concerns

Ottawa has no 1st or 2nd this year.
- sskkoo1

They are going to clean house then.

Revised:

Kane, Lehner, 2019 1st for Karlsson and Colin White

He is, but it's more just because he's stayed healthy.

He's a good goal scorer. But that's about it.

If Kane was signed here for the next 4 years at 5-6 mil, he's the least of our concerns
- sbroads24

I agree 100% with this on Kane. Good effort, hustle, grit. Terrible passer, hockey sense

He is, but it's more just because he's stayed healthy.

He's a good goal scorer. But that's about it.

If Kane was signed here for the next 4 years at 5-6 mil, he's the least of our concerns
- sbroads24

Yep. Im hoping we get a 1st rounder back

Kane, Lehner, Risto-Karlsson and a 1st? We retain 1/2 of Kanes salary
- lulags

Sure let's do the gm senario again

Kane- rental with off ice problems
Lehner- starting goalie on the worst team in the nhl, due a raise from 4 plus million
Risto- underachieving and possibly over paid

For

The best defenseman in the game and a high 1st. To a division rival

Really? Seriously?

They are going to clean house then.

Revised:

Kane, Lehner, 2019 1st for Karlsson and Colin White
- lulags

Wouldn't come close to Karlsson alone.

Karlsson would be our 2018 1st + Guhle + Nylander + another big time peice.

Honestly, not sure they would move him for Eichel considering his new contract would be the reason they trade Karlsson

I agree 100% with this on Kane. Good effort, hustle, grit. Terrible passer, hockey sense
- lulags

in addition to above average passing ability I hope botts brings in some guys who are above average in that as well.

They are going to clean house then.

Revised:

Kane, Lehner, 2019 1st for Karlsson and Colin White
- lulags

Ottawa will want more than this, and paying more is not worth it given:

1. Karlsson is a UFA in a year
2. He'll want 12 million or more
3. He hasn't been a truly dominate Dman since his injury

Yep. Im hoping we get a 1st rounder back
- Sabresfan-365

I'd flip what we get for him for Mike Hoffman.

I'd flip what we get for him for Mike Hoffman.
- sbroads24

I was actually thinking stone