yea he is still super effective teams have just kept back pressure on him so those cut backs and tight turns are harder to do. now he has a very high hockey iq so he knows how to find the open guy or make the smart "chip and chase". ho sang is the last guy back and trying it at the blueline cause he thinks he can beat everyone one on one and thats the real difference right there, barzal uses his teammates to his advanntage and makes everyone around him better and ho sang is an individual trying to do it all
- Upstate_isles

This

I'll also say he's pretty terrible along the boards
- Cptmjl

yea being strong along the wall is jt or lee Ho sang is more of an open ice guy

https://www.lighthousehoc...social&utm_source=twitter

this starts a little odd but gets to it

edit I also really enjoy watching this

https://www.lighthousehockey.com/2017/12/12/16677132/islanders-mathew-barzal-rookie-amazing-highlights-video-game-player?utm_campaign=lighthousehockey&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

this starts a little odd but gets to it
- Upstate_isles

So it's just like you minus the getting to it part.

So it's just like you minus the getting to it part.
- Cptmjl

fair

seriously that second video in the offensive zone could be many players carrer highlights not first 30 games

fair

seriously that second video in the offensive zone could be many players carrer highlights not first 30 games
- Upstate_isles

Kid is something special. Hopefully he keeps it up.

Kid is something special. Hopefully he keeps it up.
- Cptmjl

Absolutely. Best Isles prospect since....?

Absolutely. Best Isles prospect since....?
- Mancalledsting

tavares...... more points than jt thru this many games but jt didnt have the shelter barzal has to be a second line guy. outside of that gotta think palfy of lafontaine

Arizona would never take them for him
- Upstate_isles

Think about what Sakic got in the Duchene deal. Replicate that for OEL.

Part of me thinks the defensive flaws are more magnified due to the average(previously below-average goaltending). If you get goaltending like last night 80% of the rest of the season, the team will be fine.

Absolutely. Best Isles prospect since....?
- Mancalledsting

Josh bailey. Lol. I’m kidding


Did you see stats. His start as rookie better than Tavares and 4th best all time on islanders behind trottier , bossy , Lafontaine. That’s some great company to be in.

he might be better than Tavares.

Think about what Sakic got in the Duchene deal. Replicate that for OEL.

Part of me thinks the defensive flaws are more magnified due to the average(previously below-average goaltending). If you get goaltending like last night 80% of the rest of the season, the team will be fine.
- bgainesDM

Not really comparable unless the Isles manage to work it into a three-team deal. Isles are absolutely not sending three good prospects, a depth player, and a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd to ARI.

Josh bailey. Lol. I’m kidding


Did you see stats. His start as rookie better than Tavares and 4th best all time on islanders behind trottier , bossy , Lafontaine. That’s some great company to be in.

he might be better than Tavares.
- Spartiarti

idk about that again tavares really didn't have any shelter I mean guerin and weight were almost done as players when he came along. barzal has a prime jt and his line taking the other teams best competition nightly so its a bit different. that said barzal is ridiculouse and a way better skater but as we saw last night jt can still make guy look foolish

Not really comparable unless the Isles manage to work it into a three-team deal. Isles are absolutely not sending three good prospects, a depth player, and a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd to ARI.
- eichiefs9

We're going to be real good after we get Karrlson.

We're going to be real good after we get Karrlson.
- Cptmjl

for Clutterbuck and a conditional 3rd rounder in 2020

for Clutterbuck and a conditional 3rd rounder in 2020
- eichiefs9

Overpayment

Overpayment
- JohnScammo

I would be willing to include one of hickey or Seidenberg in the deal.

devils are beating the kings...............fall off not looking likely

devils are beating the kings...............fall off not looking likely
- Upstate_isles

Really curious to see how we play against them...

Really curious to see how we play against them...
- Cptmjl

im trying to watch but cangilosi is like nails on a chalkboard gonna go to kings broadcast

well its 4 0 now so this is over however oilers are piss pumping bj's

Absolutely. Best Isles prospect since....?
- Mancalledsting

im trying to watch but cangilosi is like nails on a chalkboard gonna go to kings broadcast

well its 4 0 now so this is over however oilers are piss pumping bj's
- Upstate_isles

He's (frank)ing terrible.

Not really comparable unless the Isles manage to work it into a three-team deal. Isles are absolutely not sending three good prospects, a depth player, and a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd to ARI.
- eichiefs9

Not saying that. I mean in terms of the haul Arizona will want.

By the way, Ottawa looks really good with Duchene right now.

Not saying that. I mean in terms of the haul Arizona will want.

By the way, Ottawa looks really good with Duchene right now.
- bgainesDM

There's not a lot of trades I'd say no to if it ended up getting us OEL. But I'd do something along the lines of...

One of Toews or Pulock
One of Beau or Nelson
2018 1st and 2018 3rd

OR

2018 1st
2019 1st
Toews

Could you imagine if we have 3 guys with 80+ points...a 4th guy scoring 40+ goals...and a defenseman scoring 60+ points and we miss the playoffs?

This playoff format is garbage.

There's not a lot of trades I'd say no to if it ended up getting us OEL. But I'd do something along the lines of...

One of Toews or Pulock
One of Beau or Nelson
2018 1st and 2018 3rd

OR

2018 1st
2019 1st
Toews
- Dedshark

Arizona would not accept that.

They'd want Pulock, Toews, 2 firsts, Beauvillier, Soderstrom, and a 3rd AT LEAST