My only fit with the I'm fat thing is that the fact that it is socially acceptable in regards to being noted as a standard for society has a damaging implication on culture, health, and the psychological aspects of fellows members within this generation and the next and the next and the next.
My biggest strife with the whole fat controversy is the health implications it comes with. So it's okay to increase your risk of diabetes, heart problems, chronic illnesses such as arthritis or more generically joint pain, and more problems that follow all because "anything" is considered fine because how dare you disrespect my body? I think not.
Don't get me wrong, you don't need to have a 6 pack to be healthy, but damn, is it really hard to take care of your body? What example are you ("curvy" models) setting for future generations? - EdmHockeyMan
I don't disagree with anything you're saying, but individuals have to take it upon themselves to take care of themselves. If it's socially acceptable to be 500lb, that's one thing... But that doesn't mean I should abandon my health and join those who don't give a sh1t. To each their own.
That's a slippery slope... discrimination is discrimination. I would slam the chick on the left before the chick on the right. - LittleRicky
Truly, it is.
But my beef is more so with how these models are setting themselves as an example for younger kids.
Health issues, psychological issues, and a whole lot of other stuff can follow suit if its okay to stack on Timbits. Can't misuse the word discrimination here with health concerns and well-being.
Not trying to say you gotta have rock hard abs like Klefbom, but just take care of your body.
But my beef is more so with how these models are setting themselves as an example for younger kids.
Health issues, psychological issues, and a whole lot of other stuff can follow suit if its okay to stack on Timbits. Can't misuse the word discrimination here with health concerns and well-being.
Not trying to say you gotta have rock hard abs like Klefbom, but just take care of your body. - EdmHockeyMan
Well their parents need to step in and be sane parents... And when that kid hits 18 years of age, they need to take it upon themselves to live a healthy lifestyle... If not, they've failed themselves, and have nobody to blame but themselves.
Well their parents need to step in and be sane parents... And when that kid hits 18 years of age, they need to take it upon themselves to live a healthy lifestyle... If not, they've failed themselves, and have nobody to blame but themselves. - laughs2907
I don't disagree with anything you're saying, but individuals have to take it upon themselves to take care of themselves. If it's socially acceptable to be 500lb, that's one thing... But that doesn't mean I should abandon my health and join those who don't give a sh1t. To each their own. - laughs2907
My only fit with the I'm fat thing is that the fact that it is socially acceptable in regards to being noted as a standard for society has a damaging implication on culture, health, and the psychological aspects of fellows members within this generation and the next and the next and the next.
My biggest strife with the whole fat controversy is the health implications it comes with. So it's okay to increase your risk of diabetes, heart problems, chronic illnesses such as arthritis or more generically joint pain, and more problems that follow all because "anything" is considered fine because how dare you disrespect my body? I think not.
Don't get me wrong, you don't need to have a 6 pack to be healthy, but damn, is it really hard to take care of your body? What example are you ("curvy" models) setting for future generations? - EdmHockeyMan
People who drink, smoke and eat processed foods all increase their risk for various diseases. You can't pin it all on fat people.
But my beef is more so with how these models are setting themselves as an example for younger kids.
Health issues, psychological issues, and a whole lot of other stuff can follow suit if its okay to stack on Timbits. Can't misuse the word discrimination here with health concerns and well-being.
Not trying to say you gotta have rock hard abs like Klefbom, but just take care of your body. - EdmHockeyMan
Those models are saying it okay to love your body not that it's okay to be fat. Not every person can achieve that picture perfect body and you can't have a bunch of young girls running around with eating disorders because of it.
Those models are saying it okay to love your body not that it's okay to be fat. Not every person can achieve that picture perfect body and you can't have a bunch of young girls running around with eating disorders because of it. - LittleRicky
I agree, but I'm also talking about how you take care of your body. And if you truly love your body, wouldn't you treat it with respect and take care of it?
Like I said, you don't need abs like Klefbom (you can snack on some Doritos, Cake, etc every once in a while), but take care of yourself.
Another thing is that these models are looked up to by young girls (they have a reputation, they are on TV, in the news, social media, etc, etc)... so its important for these models to show that they are good role models when it comes to taking care of your body by eating well, exercising, and by maintaining a healthy body weight in order to prevent deteriorating health.
My only fit with the I'm fat thing is that the fact that it is socially acceptable in regards to being noted as a standard for society has a damaging implication on culture, health, and the psychological aspects of fellows members within this generation and the next and the next and the next.
My biggest strife with the whole fat controversy is the health implications it comes with. So it's okay to increase your risk of diabetes, heart problems, chronic illnesses such as arthritis or more generically joint pain, and more problems that follow all because "anything" is considered fine because how dare you disrespect my body? I think not.
Don't get me wrong, you don't need to have a 6 pack to be healthy, but damn, is it really hard to take care of your body? What example are you ("curvy" models) setting for future generations? - EdmHockeyMan
The way I see it is kinda morbid (hehe like the obesity epidemic): on the one hand, I'm fine with people getting as far as they want because it'll mean the dead weight of society (those without self-control and discipline) dies sooner and that there'll generally be more jobs available for me that less people are able to do as a result of their choices. It might also help alleviate some of the burden of overpopulation over time, but that's likely offset by increased birth rates as other countries as they develop into "1st world countries".
On the other hand, society is weakened by an increase in obesity as there is more likely to be health problems down the road, thus there's a lesser percentage of population able to work and pay the taxes that fund the healthcare system (and country in general).
Nothing wrong with this next part, but its gonna lead to a greater influx of immigrants from parts of the world where obesity isn't as common and I believe we'll see substantial cultural changes that reflect such.
The way I see it is kinda morbid (hehe like the obesity epidemic): on the one hand, I'm fine with people getting as far as they want because it'll mean the dead weight of society (those without self-control and discipline) dies sooner and that there'll generally be more jobs available for me that less people are able to do as a result of their choices.
On the other hand, society is weakened by an increase in obesity as there is more likely to be health problems down the road, thus there's a lesser percentage of population able to work and pay the taxes that fund the healthcare system (and country in general).
Nothing wrong with this next part, but its gonna lead to a greater influx of immigrants from parts of the world where obesity isn't as common and I believe we'll see substantial cultural changes that reflect such. - MaximumBone
Beyond this, there are serious health implications on future generations that aren't just limited to how they're fed after they're born (also likely an issue). What a mother eats during her pregnancy will impact the development of bacterial culture within the child's digestive system as well.
If a mother eats garbage with more frequency than healthy, their child will have a natural, bacterial predisposition towards the consumption of snack foods. The bacteria it was grown to have are the sorts that crave garbage food because that's what they've been conditioned to have.
Understand that this is a gross simplification of the science behind this, but what I've been taught.
I agree, but I'm also talking about how you take care of your body. And if you truly love your body, wouldn't you treat it with respect and take care of it?
Like I said, you don't need abs like Klefbom (you can snack on some Doritos, Cake, etc every once in a while), but take care of yourself.
Another thing is that these models are looked up to by young girls (they have a reputation, they are on TV, in the news, social media, etc, etc)... so its important for these models to show that they are good role models when it comes to taking care of your body by eating well, exercising, and by maintaining a healthy body weight in order to prevent deteriorating health. - EdmHockeyMan
Girls aren't looking at these models and aspiring to be over weight... and there is a huge difference between models like that and 600lb women.
The way I see it is kinda morbid (hehe like the obesity epidemic): on the one hand, I'm fine with people getting as far as they want because it'll mean the dead weight of society (those without self-control and discipline) dies sooner and that there'll generally be more jobs available for me that less people are able to do as a result of their choices.
On the other hand, society is weakened by an increase in obesity as there is more likely to be health problems down the road, thus there's a lesser percentage of population able to work and pay the taxes that fund the healthcare system (and country in general).
Nothing wrong with this next part, but its gonna lead to a greater influx of immigrants from parts of the world where obesity isn't as common and I believe we'll see substantial cultural changes that reflect such. - MaximumBone
I enjoy a little junk food from time to time myself, but I'm in favor of further increasing taxes on cigarettes/liquor/fast foods/junk food to offset the increased demands on the healthcare system. Of course then there's the other argument... Affordability of healthy foods... I don't know what it's like where you live, but in NL, it's cheaper to buy junk food than healthier stuff... As (frank)ed up as this sounds, some families here don't have a choice. NL is completely (frank)ed up anyway though, and is being ran by morons.
Girls aren't looking at these models and aspiring to be over weight... and there is a huge difference between models like that and 600lb women. - LittleRicky
I'm thinking about gaining an extra 800-900 pounds and getting a show on TLC.
You're making an awfully weak argument on Eberle by trying to connect it to Turris. It's quite clear that Cs are valued a whole lot more than Ws- it's a false equivalence.
To your last point, if you had bothered to backread you'd know that it's been a pretty regular topic of discussion in these threads for the past couple weeks. Hell, I even bring it up back on page one of this thread. - MaximumBone
I've seen the odd comment on tactics but haven't been reading every comment in every thread - especially when it starts getting into things around JB.
I only asked because you didn't comment in your initial reply about the coach.
I agree about wings & centres 100%. I only referenced that if there was 'anything' that could be considered - I was obviously wrong.
I'll just go back to the good old 'Oil are a tire fire of an organisation & McD will waste away like Tavares has been on the Islanders (until this year)'! Is that better?
I enjoy a little junk food from time to time myself, but I'm in favor of further increasing taxes on cigarettes/liquor/fast foods/junk food to offset the increased demands on the healthcare system. Of course then there's the other argument... Affordability of healthy foods... I don't know what it's like where you live, but in NL, it's cheaper to buy junk food than healthier stuff... As (frank)ed up as this sounds, some families here don't have a choice. NL is completely (frank)ed up anyway though, and is being ran by morons. - laughs2907
Moderation is completely fine and this is by no means a commentary or complaint about your everyday average person. I honestly am in complete agreement with the idea of raises taxes on things like liquor, cigarettes and snack foods but the issue with that is two-fold:
1.) Most of these things have been tinkered with for decades in an effort to make them as addictive as possible. If you suddenly increase prices substantially without simultaneously offering appropriate addiction care services, then it's a recipe for failure.
2.) If you don't simultaneously find ways to decrease the price of natural and healthier alternatives, all you've done is increased the cost of living and made it harder on your working class and below to survive.
As you mentioned, adding a consumption tax on unhealthy and unnecessary products like those while also adding a luxury tax of sorts on big dollar luxury items (large TVs, fancy cars, etc) or maybe finding a way to fund a universal basic income that would negate a lot of the concerns surrounding cost of living.
On that last note, I want to be clear that I have no idea how a basic income could work or be funded. It's merely an idea that gets bandied about these days and is at least worth a mention.
I've seen the odd comment on tactics but haven't been reading every comment in every thread - especially when it starts getting into things around JB.
I only asked because you didn't comment in your initial reply about the coach.
I agree about wings & centres 100%. I only referenced that if there was 'anything' that could be considered - I was obviously wrong.
I'll just go back to the good old 'Oil are a tire fire of an organisation & McD will waste away like Tavares has been on the Islanders (until this year)'! Is that better? - Aussiepenguin
Yes, much better
I didn't have an initial reply; I think you were talking to someone else.
Moderation is completely fine and this is by no means a commentary or complaint about your everyday average person. I honestly am in complete agreement with the idea of raises taxes on things like liquor, cigarettes and snack foods but the issue with that is two-fold:
1.) Most of these things have been tinkered with for decades in an effort to make them as addictive as possible. If you suddenly increase prices substantially without simultaneously offering appropriate addiction care services, then it's a recipe for failure.
2.) If you don't simultaneously find ways to decrease the price of natural and healthier alternatives, all you've done is increased the cost of living and made it harder on your working class and below to survive.
As you mentioned, adding a consumption tax on unhealthy and unnecessary products like those while also adding a luxury tax of sorts on big dollar luxury items (large TVs, fancy cars, etc) or maybe finding a way to fund a universal basic income that would negate a lot of the concerns surrounding cost of living.
On that last note, I want to be clear that I have no idea how a basic income could work or be funded. It's merely an idea that gets bandied about these days and is at least worth a mention. - MaximumBone
Yeah, I think they're running a universal/basic income pilot project in several Ontario cities now (if not right now, in the near future)... Jesus, with the way technology is going, people are going to need it... Not sure if it'll work though. I predict complete chaos 10-15 years from now
Personally, it's pretty much stating that being fat is okay....... shame to see society agreeing with such a concept. - EdmHockeyMan
Fat? You think the chicks in this link are fat? Curvy isn't fat and I hate to break it to you but the curvy models are most likely healthier than their 115lb anorexic/bulimic counterparts.
You can be "fat" and still be healthy. You can also be skinny and be an unhealthy diabetic with hypertension and all the other health problems you listed. You are confusing image with lifestyle and making assumptions about each body types lifestyles, based on your preconceived notions that a certain body type must lead a certain lifestyle.
Fat? You think the chicks in this link are fat? Curvy isn't fat and I hate to break it to you but the curvy models are most likely healthier than their 115lb anorexic/bulimic counterparts.
You can be "fat" and still be healthy. You can also be skinny and be an unhealthy diabetic with hypertension and all the other health problems you listed. You are confusing image with lifestyle and making assumptions about each body types lifestyles, based on your preconceived notions that a certain body type must lead a certain lifestyle. - leonkennedy
