I'm no blind homer. I see problems and bad moves. Nobody is impervious to them. Griffin Reinhart trade was absolutely brutal. But, most of his other moves I support. I still think we make the playoffs no problem. 5 points out can be made up in the last 2 weeks of the season. We have 62 games left.
- Ihatebrianburke

Can’t say I agree with the “no problem” unless all of a sudden a fundamental shift occurs from our secondary scorers. And Klefbom too. I’d say the latter is plausible, I haven’t seen much evidence that the former is though

As far as the 62 gp left, you’re right.
Mathematically the points are out there, but statistically speaking, it just doesn’t work like this.

When uve put yourself behind the 8 ball like we have, with so much parity and so many teams to leapfrog, it’s incredibly difficult.
We’re almost at a point where we need to win at a clip akin to the pres trophy winner capitals last year just to squeak in as a wildcard at 94pts.

I think somewhere around 34-18-10 the rest of the way. That’s almost 2 regulations wins for every regulation loss here on out

Caggiula was marginally effective before, nothing’s changed healthy or not .

Slepyshev was marginally effective before. Nothing’s changed heathy or not (i was a huge proponent of his)

We’re .500 at best with a healthy draisaitl.

Sekeras injury is not pc’s fault. As I said, It’s his miscalculation that everyone else would develop and step up. And his panic long term signing of russel..

Jokinen has already fallen off. He was bought out actually.

Strome isn’t “struggling”. He’s doing the same thing he’s done for the past 2 seasons.

This is my point. Assuming the caggs, sleps, Stromes, russels, bennings etc were all going to develop in a linear fashion and thus getting rid of high end talent, was a mistake. I don’t see how that’s anyone’s else’s fault but the guy who made the decision to go in this direction
- HB77

Russell was a terrible contract. He is a 3rd pairing guy getting 4 mill a year with a full NTC and NMC. That's (frank)ed!!!

Strome is producing at a similar rate to last year, only with lower minutes, and lower talent on his line, excluding the brief time with Connor. I like him and I think he will come around. I loved the Jokinen for Cammy trade, and see this helping him to produce more.

Can’t say I agree with the “no problem” unless all of a sudden a fundamental shift occurs from our secondary scorers. And Klefbom too. I’d say the latter is plausible, I haven’t seen much evidence that the former is though

As far as the 62 gp left, you’re right.
Mathematically the points are out there, but statistically speaking, it just doesn’t work like this.

When uve put yourself behind the 8 ball like we have, with so much parity and so many teams to leapfrog, it’s incredibly difficult.
We’re almost at a point where we need to win at a clip akin to the pres trophy winner capitals last year just to squeak in as a wildcard at 94pts.

I think somewhere around 34-18-10
- HB77

Hell, even 30-18-14 might still get us in.
Nonetheless, the ship has to be turned around sooner than later if we are to even speak of the playoffs.

Russell was a terrible contract. He is a 3rd pairing guy getting 4 mill a year with a full NTC and NMC. That's (frank)ed!!!

Strome is producing at a similar rate to last year, only with lower minutes, and lower talent on his line, excluding the brief time with Connor. I like him and I think he will come around. I loved the Jokinen for Cammy trade, and see this helping him to produce more.
- Ihatebrianburke

Agreed. Don’t know who Stromes linemates mostly were tho

That's surprising... Well fine. Work on the PK, and on some systems to get that 5 on 5 scoring up. The Oilers attack is still incredibly predictable... I still think McLellan is useless.
- laughs2907

The attack is predictable largely in part to a lack of talent. Even a couple small additions with speed could make a huge difference. Trade for a fast NHL winger (Grabner, Rieder or Hudon) and scour the AHL for a fast skater that's producing (Soshnikov, Johnsson, Cirelli) and pay the price to bring him in.

Suddenly the team is faster, brings a new look and has some confidence infused into the lower lines.

I don't think we will miss the playoffs, but even if we do, I wouldn't support a Chiarelli firing. I think a GM needs to be given 5 years, unless they do something completely ridiculous.
- Ihatebrianburke

I don't think he'd lose his job. McLellan might, though.

Russell was a terrible contract. He is a 3rd pairing guy getting 4 mill a year with a full NTC and NMC. That's (frank)ed!!!

Strome is producing at a similar rate to last year, only with lower minutes, and lower talent on his line, excluding the brief time with Connor. I like him and I think he will come around. I loved the Jokinen for Cammy trade, and see this helping him to produce more.
- Ihatebrianburke

Anyone who thinks that was anything but a horrible contract is crazy... That right there warrants Chia getting his pee pee slapped by Tim Murray.

Hell, even 30-18-14 might still get us in.
Nonetheless, the ship has to be turned around sooner than later if we are to even speak of the playoffs.
- EdmHockeyMan

That’d put us at 90. Possible, but I think the avg wildcard spot in recent years is around 94

Russell was a terrible contract. He is a 3rd pairing guy getting 4 mill a year with a full NTC and NMC. That's (frank)ed!!!

Strome is producing at a similar rate to last year, only with lower minutes, and lower talent on his line, excluding the brief time with Connor. I like him and I think he will come around. I loved the Jokinen for Cammy trade, and see this helping him to produce more.
- Ihatebrianburke

Strome has been coming around visually and production-wise lately which is really good to see from a guy who has largely been saddled with anchors. Don't know that it'll lead to a whole lot more offense, but every little bit helps.

Can’t say I agree with the “no problem” unless all of a sudden a fundamental shift occurs from our secondary scorers. And Klefbom too. I’d say the latter is plausible, I haven’t seen much evidence that the former is though

As far as the 62 gp left, you’re right.
Mathematically the points are out there, but statistically speaking, it just doesn’t work like this.

When uve put yourself behind the 8 ball like we have, with so much parity and so many teams to leapfrog, it’s incredibly difficult.
We’re almost at a point where we need to win at a clip akin to the pres trophy winner capitals last year just to squeak in as a wildcard at 94pts.

I think somewhere around 34-18-10 the rest of the way. That’s almost 2 regulations wins for every regulation loss here on out
- HB77

Klefbom needs to play better. Hands down. This is nobody's fault but his own. Self- admittedly too. Heck, when Sekera comes back, he might find himself on the 3rd pairing or even in the pressbox for a short time.

We will be getting a very good dman back in the lineup very soon. That's kind of the equivalent to making a big trade. Should give us a boost, and the added depth that pushes guys back in their rightful spots will be nice.

I don't think he'd lose his job. McLellan might, though.
- MaximumBone

Probably right

I’d push for chias first because of what I see as not only a miscalculation, but also handicapping our ability to alleviate a scoring issue by acquiring star talent with cap and term. All without actually making a push in Connors last cheap year!! Crazy

But I’d be cool with Todd going too


But I think our carousel over the years in both management and coaching might prevent a move as we probably want to be viewed as somewhat stable.

Caggiula was marginally effective before, nothing’s changed healthy or not .

Slepyshev was marginally effective before. Nothing’s changed heathy or not (i was a huge proponent of his)

We’re .500 at best with a healthy draisaitl.

Sekeras injury is not pc’s fault. As I said, It’s his miscalculation that everyone else would develop and step up. And his panic long term signing of russel..

Jokinen has already fallen off. He was bought out actually.

Strome isn’t “struggling”. He’s doing the same thing he’s done for the past 2 seasons.

This is my point. Assuming the caggs, sleps, Stromes, russels, bennings etc were all going to develop in a linear fashion and thus getting rid of high end talent, was a mistake. I don’t see how that’s anyone’s else’s fault but the guy who made the decision to go in this direction
- HB77

Jokinen was a decent signing. They guy had 60 points the season before the buyout.

I actually am liking Strome's game when he plays centre. Is he worth Eberle? No. But it was a cap movement for a right handed centre so at least they got a little bit of value.

I don't think he'd lose his job. McLellan might, though.
- MaximumBone

No please.

Is there a rule against putting two goalies in net at the same time?

I don't think he'd lose his job. McLellan might, though.
- MaximumBone

Oh well. No big loss in my eyes. Always plenty of coaches looking for work. Maybe if we bring back MacT as GM, like a couple on here hope, we can bring Eakins back as well to ruin some more young players for us.

Jokinen was a decent signing. They guy had 60 points the season before the buyout.

I actually am liking Strome's game when he plays centre. Is he worth Eberle? No. But it was a cap movement for a right handed centre so at least they got a little bit of value.
- FransNielson

I can’t say for sure of course, but I dunno that he chia did his homework. He was bought out for a reason and it’s clear his wheels were totally gone from an Already slowish cerebral game.

I can live with the strome of late. Just makes it easy to chirp him because of the proven scoring we gave up to get where we are now.

That’d put us at 90. Possible, but I think the avg wildcard spot in recent years is around 94
- HB77

I don't care about what records have been in previous years. 5 points back is what I'm looking at.

Probably right

I’d push for chias first because of what I see as not only a miscalculation, but also handicapping our ability to alleviate a scoring issue by acquiring star talent with cap and term. All without actually making a push in Connors last cheap year!! Crazy

But I’d be cool with Todd going too


But I think our carousel over the years in both management and coaching might prevent a move as we probably want to be viewed as somewhat stable.
- HB77

Todd Nelson is still available last I checked Him or maybe McDavid's junior coach.

Oh well. No big loss in my eyes. Always plenty of coaches looking for work. Maybe if we bring back MacT as GM, like a couple on here hope, we can bring Eakins back as well to ruin some more young players for us.
- Ihatebrianburke

Lol

No one wants mact back I don’t think

But idve preferred his hesitant approach to dealing assets. Idve liked to have seen what he could do with Connor, leon, Klefbom, talbot in his stable.

I just think chia is far too cavalier with valuable assets to achieve his vision

I can’t say for sure of course, but I dunno that he chia did his homework. He was bought out for a reason and it’s clear his wheels were totally gone from an Already slowish cerebral game.

I can live with the strome of late. Just makes it easy to chirp him because of the proven scoring we gave up to get where we are now.
- HB77

That's a problem, though. Don't let the player be a victim of critique that should be levied at the GM who made the trade. Unless the player doesn't put in effort and sucks as a result (Reinhart); then go to (frank)ing town.

Lol

No one wants mact back I don’t think

But idve preferred his hesitant approach to dealing assets. Idve liked to have seen what he could do with Connor, leon, Klefbom, talbot in his stable.

I just think chia is far too cavalier with valuable assets to achieve his vision
- HB77

My issue is less about his use of assets and more a problem with what his vision is. He's trying to build the LA Kings circa-2012 in a league centering around speed, but without a proven top-10 Dman.

I don't care about what records have been in previous years. 5 points back is what I'm looking at.
- Ihatebrianburke

i think the 5 is abit illusionary as we have to leapfrog so many teams. They aren’t all just gonna stop winning. I think this part is often overlooked.
That said, 5 points is certainly not insurmountable

But u turn it around now and start stringing wins together or that turns in to 8-10 and she’s done . And yeah, that’s only a couple more losses to their wins away...

I can’t say for sure of course, but I dunno that he chia did his homework. He was bought out for a reason and it’s clear his wheels were totally gone from an Already slowish cerebral game.

I can live with the strome of late. Just makes it easy to chirp him because of the proven scoring we gave up to get where we are now.
- HB77

I support the trading of Eberle no matter what. I have no time for players that don't give it their all. Same goes for Schultz. Success on other teams doesn't change how I feel about them.

That's a problem, though. Don't let the player be a victim of critique that should be levied at the GM who made the trade. Unless the player doesn't put in effort and sucks as a result (Reinhart); then go to (frank)ing town.
- MaximumBone

Fair statement.
He’s pretty much on pace for the last two years. And while this is frustrating, it’s chias assumption that he’d improve. There was no real evidence to say I should hate him for failing to achieve that

That's a problem, though. Don't let the player be a victim of critique that should be levied at the GM who made the trade. Unless the player doesn't put in effort and sucks as a result (Reinhart); then go to (frank)ing town.
- MaximumBone

They guy we traded away was the one that couldn't be bothered to put in any effort.